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Are Polish Christians here?


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neelie
  Oct 30, 07, 09:22  #31

Quoting: truhlei
Christians

My experience is that most Polish catholics are religious, don't however confuse this with christianity.
A lot think that 'The Good Samaritan' is a pub in London.

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z_darius
  Oct 30, 07, 09:28  #32

Quoting: osiol
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.

Actually, it is no physically possible to follow everything the Bible says. Too many contradictions. Also, when one considers the number of Christian denominations (each of them claiming theirs is the only true path to the truth and correct interpretation of the Bible) then it become glaringly obvious that literal approach to what the book says is impossible.


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Aristoboulos
  Dec 3, 07, 22:13  #33

Quoting: truhlei
Are Polish Christians who share all 10 testaments and don't forget that human life starts since conception?
Please appear here in this topic.


Hey, i am new here but I can say I am one of them.

Quoting: osiol
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.


Apologetics is not one of my most loved things, but idea that Church hierarchy is non biblical was in no one mind until the Reformation, so I guess it is a quite new idea. However, today most of Protestant Churches have also their hierarchy with bishops and so on. It can be discussed if they have the apostolic succession* but they claim it.

Quoting: osiol
Every religion needs some sort of organisation.
Churches at their best, do much for communities.


I can agree.




(In opinion of historical Christianity- like Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Oriental Orthodoxy- they do not.)

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Aristoboulos
  Dec 3, 07, 22:23  #34

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
The NT is written on Greek, so one word has one meaning, not like english, the word Love can be one of 5



It is not true. List of polish or English translation of many of Greek words can fill few pages in dictionary. Get the first Greek-Polish dictionary you find as we have some and check. New Testament word for love is also agape and it is not the same as philo. And what about aeon? Is it period of time, eternity or just hundred years? Other example: in NT you will find few times occuring word "ethnoi". Are their "nations" or rather the "heathens" and what about Jesus congreging "ethnoi" for the final judgement?

I'm sorry and don't want to set Sunday school here but I was extremely curious of your sayings about word meaning in Greek.

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z_darius
  Dec 3, 07, 23:01  #35

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
The NT is written on Greek, so one word has one meaning, not like english, the word Love can be one of 5, one is Phillio (word we get Philadelphia, city of brotherly love) which means brotherly type of love


Actually, in ancient Greek love is: agapao.
Filos means friend, but it can also mean friendly, or beloved.


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Aristoboulos
  Dec 3, 07, 23:43  #36

Agapao is "to love" or literally "i love", love as a substantive is agape. But only New Testament and later Christian texts deal with this. Classical literature has eros and few other but agape or agapao is strictly biblical. Does anybody know if it appears in LXX?

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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Dec 4, 07, 00:28  #37

Quoting: truhlei
Are Polish Christians here?

who?

;):P

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Aristoboulos
  Dec 4, 07, 00:38  #38

Ye, we have even persons more serious than hordes of "baptizati catholici" (baptized Catholics) ;) joke, joke!

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clunkshift
  Dec 4, 07, 01:40  #39

I suspect that seeking Polish Christian evangelical or fundamentalist believers on this forum will be a fruitless effort.

The rough statistics are that during the papacy of JP2 and under communist rule, about 97% of Poles claimed membership of the Catholic Church.

Historically, the main protestant church from 16th century was Kościół Ewangelicko-Reformowany w RP, which now numbers about 1500 members in 8 churches.

Attendance in the Catholic Church since 1989 has been decreasing, possibly by as much as 25%.
Poland’s evangelical population has grown slightly, but is still very small; about 40,000 professing evangelical believers among a population of approximately 38 million. Denominations like the Brethren Assemblies, the Baptist Union, the Pentecostal Church, and the Evangelical Free Church are viewed by most Poles as sects.

Of these, I can only speak of my own interest.
There are 39 brethren assemblies in Poland and around 28 groups meeting in homes. For cultural comparison, there are 871 assemblies in Romania – which was never a Catholic cntrolled country.

http://www.nowysacz.kwch.pl/
http://www.wroclaw.kwch.pl/
http://www.palowice.kwch.pl/
http://www.kwch.pl/


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Aristoboulos
  Dec 4, 07, 01:48  #40

Quoting: clunkshift
There are 39 brethren assemblies in Poland and around 28 groups meeting in homes. For cultural comparison, there are 871 assemblies in Romania – which was never a Catholic cntrolled country.


You got right. Romania, or former Vallachia and Moldavia was during all it's history- as you would like to say- Orthodox controlled country. Does it make a difference for you?

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clunkshift
  Dec 4, 07, 07:48  #41

Quoting: Aristoboulos
Does it make a difference for you?

Not peronally, No.
My brother is a regular visitor to Moldova, so I simply speak of what interests me.


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Aristoboulos
  Dec 4, 07, 08:02  #42

Ok.

I'd like to ask if you see any differences in spreading this version of Protestantism in Catholic and Orthodox ruled countries? I guess you consider both Churches being on a similar level of validity. If I am right, what caused fastest spread of this denomination in Romania in your opinion?

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