Polish denial of reality - is it a national trade?

They weaved through the tanks throwing grenades down the barrels, then they fired at the infantry with handguns or rifles. Sometimes they ignored the tanks completely.

The thing is, 9 out of 10 times they won the fight. Without infantry support the tanks were easily picked off. We never charged tanks with swords and spears, for anyone who believes the old Nazi propaganda

I was on a visit in my homeland last summer and i didn't like what i saw, the difference between the poorest people and the richest is developing in the wrong direction. Same goes with the media controll, there like 3 guys from israel controlling 99% of polish media.

the smart people in Poland are becoming very rich

the lazy and dumb are becoming poorer

Witek, and even smarter are the zionist criminals, they first invented communism, and then used their own Lech Walesa (Lejba Kohne) to "fight" it in order to transfer 100% of the profitable biz totaly free of charge, and then resell it back to polish businessmen (smart people in Witeks terms).

Btw. I currently live in norway and i have absolutely no plans investing in poland, the economical situation is too unstable, mostly due to the very low Purchasing Power Parity.

No, the Midwest. But Chicago and surrrounding states have similar events.

Yeah, that really must hurt. Unfortunately Poles want to be western. Want to be Americanized. And I think that in order to appreciate polish culture many will have to lose it for some time. Sad but true.

Good point Matyasz. That is why we have so many 3rd generation children participating.

applicable to irish culture too. Its a new irish culture today, i dont hate it at all but its defo not the old irish culture.

in fact, i like many of the new culture, the lower drinking habits for one

Wow, this miranda, what a grand expert on Polish subjects she is!

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I think that it's sad that a lot of people don't teach their children their mother tongue. I think that later on those kids and their kids really miss out because of that. But than again it's great that those people later do some research about their roots.

Poland, just like almost the whole world, is now under the influence of globalization, so a lot of youngsters value higher 50 cent and American rap/hip hop culture over Warsaw Village Band and polish culture. It's a pity. Still, people don't like to be just like the rest of the world, so sooner or later there’s going to be a major come back to polish culture.

Too bad that the worst American music is being exported. Middle class blacks even don't like the messages that it sends toward women. My children like the beat and I try to choose music without the objectionable lyrics. Some rock is good like Chris Daughtry. There is good Christian hip-hop by Toby Mac with excellent and positive words. Christian rock is very popular because people are just tired of all the negative music. Try Third Day , Lifehouse or Jars of Clay. Most of the rap is bought by white kids in the suburbs who just like acting like thugs.

This so very true witek - In my experience many of the "smart" ones are those who have lived abroad, have seen how the *system" works in other places and understand how this can be applied to Poland today.

Good on them. They are the ones who will take Poland forward to where it rightly deserves to be. The others will hold it back and the past they claim to hate but are too frightened to leave behind.

Re: 'The others will hold it back and the past they claim to hate but are too frightened to leave behind.'

- Who, and what specific facts do you mean in the above sentence? Who claims to hate the past but is too frightened 'to leave behind' (sic)? What specific past? Any concrete facts here?
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I am not able to provide concrete proof for you here Puzzler and am only expressing my own personal opinion and interpretation of what I have witnessed.

A significant number of the young, and not so young Poles I have met in Poland display similar attitudes as those that ola123 and hullo seem to be expressing, which I interpret in the way you have quoted me.

Although, that said, that posters here are expressing these view could be taken as 'concrete facts' :)

Back to the topic. Wake up, you lunatic.

Are you yet another Pole, displaying your national traits, or just a bit of a pillock?

if they like 50 cent and other gangster rap crap thy are just stupid idiots who should be sent to the bronx to work there

this one is better? sure it is

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You know nothing about modern Poland. As an American living in this country I can say something about it. You all are totaly wrong.

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Why denoial?

This reminds me of an incident when I was out visiting my girlfriend (she is polish, I am english)... She lives in Poznan, which was once the stage of the Olympic watersports, held at the artificial lake 'Malta'...

When I was there with a friend, we were reading about the history of the region and it turns out that the Lake was dug by the Germans during the war... This seemed strange to me that the Germans would take some time out from invading the country to construct an artificial lake that is about half a kilometre long and only about 5 metres deep...

I have since asked many Poznan citizens if they thought this was a strange thing for them to be doing, and I raised concern that it might have had a more sinister purpose...

Whenever I have mentioned it, everyone has just shrugged it off, almost as a taboo subject... Perhaps if there is any modern 'denial' in Polish culture that might be where it springs from...?

Coincidentally Hitler spent a lot of the war living in Poznan... Another thing that most Poznan citizens readily deny...

You probably know very little at all. Are you sure you are in Poland, did you check the map?

Numpty



As an American, and therefore an expert at being totally wrong, I feel obliged to accept your opinion

You can laugh and make jokes, but nothing justifies american ingorance.
Ignorance - american national trade.