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Polish denial of reality - is it a national trade?


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LoneStranger
  Mar 24, 07, 06:36  #31

Quoting: ola123
rafik

Ola is one of those many Poles... extremely dissappointed and frustrated.

I do think that she needs to calm down... pray... and learn that voilent anger (or having hate/anger) towards other nationalities is not the answer. But I suggest this to her as a friend... as a fellow Pole... as someone who realises her situation, her dreams... and her legitimate reason to feel down! I respect her dreams... but then... I hope she soon gathers herself, and moves ahead.

Quoting: ola123
ola123


Dear friend ,

Let us try for a better solution. I have read your posts...and seen that you are not at all racist or nazistic (that many have commented you to be). I know your state of mind and heart! ... But I know you and me and all us Polish (and the citizens of Poland...including those who look to live here and earn here...make it home) will bring forward to Poland a new dawn of success.

We have so much positives. Look at the heart of Poland! Vibrant, Welcoming, Pure and Accepting. We have the love... and that is our greatest property....thought it...we will earn our rights!

Yes...we will share our thoughts...pain...joy ...troubles and solutions...WITH OUR FRIENDS! Those who care... and ofcourse....those who'll throw one stone! - Let us not hit them back....because we are not like that ...



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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 06:53  #32

Quoting: LoneStranger
ook at the heart of Poland! Vibrant, Welcoming, Pure and Accepting. We have the love... and that is our greatest property....thought it...we will earn our rights!



very nice

And i would like to make clear. Im not calling her a racist or a nazi, im saying her posts were very racist and nazi-istic. There is a difference. I dont believe Ola means to me (I really hope not) so aggressive to non-polish and that her sentiments WERE racist (while she may not intend them to be, doesn't change the fact of what was said)

and i share your view of Poland as a welcoming country and i see huge similarities betweeen Poland and Ireland for example in this area.



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Grzegorz_
  Mar 24, 07, 07:02  #33

Quoting: Rio
why does noone say how japanese are rascic or korean?


Because they are non-white and looks like for the media only whites can be racists. When skinheads beat some blacks It's a big news, but when non-whites attack white people noone cares.


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 24, 07, 07:03  #34

Quoting: daffy
im saying her posts were very racist and nazi-istic.


Which posts ?


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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 07:09  #35

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Which posts ?



the other topic in relation to 'warning foreigners about buying in poland' that there will be a revolution. (im summing it up here and being rather nice about it)



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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:11  #36

I never said that sweeteie, never. So dont put words in my throat. Thank you .

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 24, 07, 07:14  #37

well what were you warning me about ola?

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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 07:16  #38

Quoting: ola123
So dont put words in my throat. Thank you .


your kidding? - you started a WHOLE thread about it!!!

warning about 'violance' and that you 'can't be held responsible for what happens to the poles who return from abroad and the foreigners who go to poland!!

do you want me to call over and walk you through your own posts?



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LoneStranger
  Mar 24, 07, 07:19  #39

Quoting: ola123
ola123

So how's the day Ola? ... You are into university of finished it? ... you also gonna move out for jobs?

Why not try and do something into Poland my friend? ... although... it you think abroad is a good option...I can understand .... by good lucks with you

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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:19  #40

Im very careful words I say so you cant accuse me of anything . Never said anything about violence or reoulution .

"warning about 'violance' and that you 'can't be held responsible for what happens to the poles who return from abroad and the foreigners who go to poland!!"

lol never said that

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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 07:23  #41

We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes, go home english GO HOME and leave us alone. And dont tell me I didnt want you, Poles dont want you here bloody capitalists.

Dont be suprised with hostility towards foreigners buying our land . Beware .

Me, Grzegorz and there is all Poland hostile towards bloody foreign capitalists that steal our land.
Better dont buy land in Poland, just friendly warning.

We were sold by english to Russia and now they are buying our homes, lets stop them! GO HOME ENGLISH!

Ppl will get pissed. In fact ppl are pissed already now........ dont ask me what happens next because pissed crowd is unpredictable , not to mention pissed nation .

You are pathetic polish living outside country thinking that you can make good business buying properties in Poland..... I have less respect for people like you than for these foreigners because they are loyal to their homelands.
Pole is the worst enemy of a Pole. Thats old saying but too true.

Quoting: HULLO
ME THINK TIME FOR ANOTHER REVOLUTION
Ola123 response:
I agree.

West sold us 50 years ago and destroyed our land so they should pay for it now. They havent done it yet and stealing our land is not making any good for them.

bub dont tell me I didnt warn you.





eh ola, did i misquote you? (all copied and pasted from your VARIOUS comments in the other thread! All very clear to what i said and NOT me putting words in your mouth - you said it.



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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:25  #42

So where did I use words revolutuion( used just a quote) or violence? hahahaha

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 24, 07, 07:25  #43

but you told me not to tell you you didnt warn me ola... what are you warning me about...?

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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:27  #44

Quoting: BubbaWoo
but you told me not to tell you you didnt warn me ola... what are you warning me about...?



scared? good Stop buying my home and everything is ok.

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miranda
  Mar 24, 07, 07:27  #45

Ola,
I want to know what you are warning Bubba about ?


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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 07:29  #46

Quoting: ola123
So where did I use words revolutuion( used just a quote) or violence? hahahaha



oh i see, your crazy - you refuse to accept that your views are racist (go home english) - (im irish so i guess i can stay )

you dont have to say 'revolution' to say 'i agree' (which you did )

and correct me if im wrong - revolutions, are violent?

mmmm direct quotes not needed ola123. your actions and implications speak volumes for you.
And your pretty stupid to try hiding behind 'LITERAL' quotes (thinking your so smart for it too but its only yourself your fooling)



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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:37  #47

Im just saying that Poles may be not friendly when you arrive to see your 10 new apartments that you bought and rent them. Thats all and the rest is just your imagination. Im againt war and any violence so Id rather you didnt put words in my mouth.

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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 07:40  #48

you 'agreed' it was time for a revoltution

how is this supporting your declared opposition to violence?

is there some other kind if revolutionary style im not aware of?




id rather you were for peace and against violence, but the only pole i see advocating it is you and hullo, even LS and Greg are not so strong fisted in this pursuit you have.



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ola123 [Guest]
Edited by: ola123  Mar 24, 07, 07:42  #49

I was thinking more about revolution in thinking and politics as I suggested restrictions in property market.

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daffy
Edited by: daffy  Mar 24, 07, 07:47  #50

Quoting: ola123
I was thinking more about revolution in thinking and politics as I suggested restrictions in property market.


well we know it wasn't what hullo was advocating and you knew it too. You agreed to HULLO's defintion of revolution.

If you wish a thinking and political revolution, thats much better. However. Go home english, we dont want you here. Is still a racist view and not a politic i subscribe to and i would always stand up against this kind of statement as small minded xenophobia!

I do however, encourage you to learn economics and poltics as it may unveil to you, the reasons behind what is happening RE property markets. its a SMALL % is foreign investors. (smaller still the amount of that that are english specifically)

Your method's of 'warning' bubba and other foreigners are juvenile and a veil for your own, ill be polite and call it 'mistrust' of any one but poles who stay at home 9as you've object to those that go away and come back). Warning them against a thinking and political revolution is not needed (and dare i say, NOT what you were warning them about! be honest, at least with youtself)

The EU has helped, will continue to help, Poland will grow, will continue to grow.

proof? I need only point out my own country as exhibit A



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BubbaWoo
  Mar 24, 07, 07:47  #51

Quoting: ola123
Im just saying that Poles may be not friendly when you arrive to see your 10 new apartments that you bought and rent them


you have absolutely no idea about the way i work ola

Quoting: ola123
so Id rather you didnt put words in my mouth.


you talk a lot of poo ola but at least youre consistent in your inconsistency...

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ola123 [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 07:56  #52

You are completely wrong about me duff, I repeat Im against violence and if you read my posts that way its your business .

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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 08:01  #53

Quoting: ola123
if you read my posts that way its your business


its up to me to convay the message i intend to the reader. If i am misunderstood I must try to help understanding in my original message.

This is the same for all people. gov'ts. etc.

This is the same onus on you

the 'say what you mean, not what i said' is nonsense



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pingwin
  Mar 24, 07, 13:22  #54

Think of it this way!

If you live in a good home, have plenty to eat and can read, you are a member of a very select group.

And if you have a good house, food, can read and have a computer, you are among the very elite.

If you woke up this morning with more health than illness...you are more fortunate than the million who will not survive this week.

If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation...you are ahead of 500 million people in the world.

If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassement, arrest, torture, or death...you are fortune, more than three billion people in the world can't.

If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep...you are richer than 75% of this world.

If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace...you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.

If your parents are still alive and still married...you are very rare, even in the US.

If you hold up your head with a smile on you face and are truly thankful...you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.

"Change comes OVERTIME, not OVERNIGHT."

"SUCCESS in Never Final. FAILURE is Never Permanent."


Have a good day, and let's just count our blessings.


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hullo [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 16:14  #55

Quoting: BubbaWoo
you talk a lot of poo ola but at least youre consistent in your inconsistency...


It takes one to know one, hey.BubbaWoo,!, You are no friend of Polish people, you are only in Poland to make money at the expense of the suffering Polish people, GO HOME to where you belong.

Poland should have a law which tax non poles who invest in real estate, this will make them leave poland quick smart.

People say Poland will get better as part of the EU...what rubbish, who is going to pay off the huge debt?.....it is like telling somebody dying of cancer that he will get better.

I agree with Ola, who speaks for the most Polish people living in Poland.

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zion [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 16:31  #56

this is to Rio . oi mano where in poland are you located at ??? I am also an brazilian that just move to poland maybe you can tell me more about life here with a latin american prospect . ciao

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espana
  Mar 24, 07, 16:51  #57

Quoting: hullo
You are no friend of Polish people, you are only in Poland to make money at the expense of the suffering Polish people, GO HOME to where you belong.


i dont think so and obviously you dont know bubba


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FISZ
  Mar 24, 07, 16:53  #58

Quoting: hullo
I agree with Ola, who speaks for the most Polish people living in Poland.

Maybe you are Ola


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daffy
  Mar 24, 07, 18:34  #59

Quoting: FISZ
Maybe you are Ola


oh that would make perfect sense! who else would agree with her but herself!!!!!



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hullo [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 19:29  #60

Quoting: FISZ
Maybe you are Ola


LOL, maybe you are the pope. When people make sensible observations, why is it it that you have to insult them.

Its so easy when you have money and your stomach is full to cheer up somebody who is on the outer, it doesn't work... that why Polish people will kick foreign investors and speculators out of its country, thats if others don't take do it for them, no guessing which way.
Am I ola, no not another smear campaign!

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