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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 13, 07, 07:04  #91

:) after the debate

"what is wrong with this duck ? "

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Polson
  Oct 13, 07, 07:05  #92

Aha !!! ;P Go Donald, Out Duck ;)


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Crow
  Oct 13, 07, 08:37  #93

Quoting: Lukasz
I think that Kaczynski was smashed durring first part of debate about economy ...

Its good that Kacz was smashed. He spit on Racowie. He deserve to be smashed

Down with Kacz!


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 13, 07, 09:21  #94

Quoting: Crow
He spit on Racowie.


On what ?


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johan123
Edited by: johan123  Oct 13, 07, 12:30  #95

Hearing rumours of a massive political scandal within LiD! Concerns information L.Miller has on Aleksander Kwaśniewski. Source has mentioned it's absolutely massive!


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saddened
  Oct 13, 07, 12:35  #96

go:Lukasz. you are it man go for it.

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saddened
  Oct 13, 07, 12:41  #97

god i hate politics

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saddened
  Oct 13, 07, 12:43  #98

if you registere lukasz. i would vote vote for you.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 14, 07, 13:59  #99

Quoting: saddened
go:Lukasz. you are it man go for it.


LOL ;) thak you


PO has taken leadership in pools so maybe situation will be better. (so hopefuly I will do other things for my country ;) )

PO 46%
PiS 32%
LiD 11%
PSL 7%


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Lukasz
  Oct 15, 07, 12:29  #100

Today we have last debate

Tusk PO - Kwasniewski LiD

I think it will be inportant as well


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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 15, 07, 15:18  #101

My vote for UPR candidate from LPR list

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Oct 17, 07, 11:40  #102

Quoting: Grzegorz_


Quoting: Crow
He spit on Racowie.


On what ?

I know what I speak

Racowie = Serbs

See >>>

Encyklopedia- Wirtualna Polska

encyklopedia.wp.pl/sz_tresc.html?encid=1730632&szukajEnc=racowie&enc_opis=1&score=&found=&szukane=&ticaid=14a27

racowie, lekka najemna jazda złożona z Serbów, znana na Węgrzech od XIV w.; w Polsce w końcu XV–pocz. XVI w. służyli w obronie potocznej.

Gear at Grunwald

archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HERBARZ/2001-03/0983839431

"The hussar originated in Serbia towards the end of the 14th century.
There are references to hussars in Poland in treasury returns of 1500,
though they were probably in Polish service before this date.
These early formations were foreign mercenaries, first known as
Racowie from the term Rascia, 'Serbia', from the original centre of
the Serbian state, Ras
. The term 'hussar' probably originates not -
as has been widely published - from any connections with the Hungarian
husz meaning 'twenty', but from gusar, a Slavonic word meaning
'bandit'.

So, if Kaczynski support creation of Greater Albanian caliphate (as I already underlined) he spit on Serbs (work against) - in other words. He should explain to Polish voters that Serbs has problems with Vatican and with Croatian Catholics but that there is nothing anti-Catholic in Serbian tradition, that Serbs were always brothers when Poland (and other Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox Slavs and, many other progressive nations/people) needed them— on Grunwald and during Kosciusko uprising (we would do even more if we didn’t had our own troubles), in WWI, in WWII, against Stalin. In middle age, from Ras, from center of Serbian Orthodoxy and statehood, Serbs (which were remembered as Racowie) came to fight for freedom of Poland and our nobility closely cooperated and intermarried. Serbs didn’t allow that division of Christianity divides us- Why would politicians of Poland accept that.

Serbs are proud to consider themselves as brothers to Poles and to Russians, in the same time. Kaczynski is against Balkan Serbs, with that anti-Lusatian Serbs, with that anti-Polish. We must recognize him as pro-German and we must ask- Where Kaczynski lead Poland?


Poland backs 'free and independent' Kosovo: Albanian president

kosovareport.blogspot.com/2006/11/poland-backs-free-and-independent.ht ml

Poland backs a "free and independent" Kosovo, Albanian President Albert Moisiu said Tuesday following a meeting with his Polish opposite number Lech Kaczynski."I was pleased to hear that President Kaczynski, Poland and the Polish nation are ready...`.



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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 18, 07, 10:03  #103

new pools give decisive victory for PO (!!!) ...

if notging is going to change Liberals will govern alone ... first time in Polands history :)))

as to Johan 123 bookmachers changed their types, now they think PO is going to win ...


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Oct 18, 07, 10:27  #104

Quoting: Lukasz
new pools give decisive victory for PO (!!!) ...

if notging is going to change Liberals will govern alone ... first time in Polands history :)))

as to Johan 123 bookmachers changed their types, now they think PO is going to win ...

Luk

Will you please, in short, just inform me about current position of Kachinsky and his party (global image in public)? How goes name of Kach political party (just to check)? What`s the key argument of his political opponents?


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 18, 07, 10:47  #105

Kaczysnki is in defend, he tries to prove that only he can solv problem of corruption and that PO is going to make coalition with LiD which is sybol of corruption in Poland (there is some truth) but when new pools show that PO have chance to goveren alone, this argument isnt so strong. What is more Kaczysnki was deafated in debate. Key arguments of his opponents: so support of Radio M and coaltion with LPR and SO, Kaczysnki try to prove that it was real policy, and he did it because it was only one posibility. He is accused of being so ignorant in realtionships with EU in the same moment being bootlicker of USA, and most of people prefere EU than USA ... what is more, he is unable for compromises and people are tired by his speaches. Last time a lot of politicians who were considered as normal not extreme decided to leave PiS or join PO and it counts. PiS have some points to, first one is that our economy is groving but it isnt result of their policy, but they use this argument in their campaing.

What is the key in so sharply changes in pools, it seams that more people thatn usualy is going to vote, and this people are rather with moderate point of view and it gives votes for PO. Campaing is very brutal and the most interesting since '89 and everything changes very quickly ...

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PiS has support of poor people form villages and small towns, very religious people, and those who want revenge on commies (but in this case they did anything in 2 years time)

PO supporters are younger much better educated, richer and mostly live in big towns ...

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Kaczynski when he formed coalition with extremists and populists have achived greate thing, they have 1-2% support now, but he started to talk with this electorate and some people decided to vote on PO. Kaczynski proves it is real policy (I think it is in some way true) but a lot of people dont believe him :)))


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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 15:08  #106

Lukasz,
PO leads in polls and PiS will take the elections as usual. How many times one could be fooled by silly surveys? If polls would be right two years ago, then Rokita would be PM and Tusk president (victory in the first round!).

Crown,
Kosowo is no issue in Polish media. Checked the biggest internet portal and they didn't even mentioned that Kaczynski visited Albania. If he didn't went to Russia, US, Germany, France or Brussels then media hardly mention such visits and Albania somewhere in the end of their list of importance.

I have read some time ago Kaczynski statement that he is for territorial integrity of Serbia however I would not expect him to fight for this cause too much. I have heard also some time ago some bureaucrat from Polish MFA claiming otherwise. Honestly I don't know what is our official position. Personally I think that what the US and the EU doing over there is totally illegal.

However I must say that you Serbs always chose the worst line of political defense on international arena. Radical Party should change name for something different because with such name and anti-Muslim rhetoric they will never be considered to be partners for serious discussion. Maybe dealing with US you cannot do much because here we have to do with some geopolitical nonsense with Russia. However in debate with the EU you cannot raise the Muslim issue! Firstly because this is big exaggeration, Albanians are nationalistic and atheist rather than religious. In the EU they want to bring more Muslims (commissioner Frattini plan) and such argument is automatically rejected. They prefer Muslim over nationalists. You Serbs are considered to be nationalists and you should put the same label to Albanians.

The only two parties in Poland that could possibly stand against EU bureaucrats over Kosovo are LPR and UPR but they wont rule here for sure.

by the way, this is the list of famous former and current PO members (maybe you know few of them):

John D. Rockefeller
Nicolaus Copernicus
Margaret Thatcher
Milton Friedman
David Beckham
Albert Einstein
George Soros
Napoleon Bonaparte
Martin Luther
Augusto Pinochet
Nelson Mandela
Al Gore
John Paul II
Vladimir Putin

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Gosia
  Oct 18, 07, 15:16  #107

i got a sms today, probably you know it. i'll write in polish:
Założenie butów - 30sek,
Spacer do lokalu wyborczego - 600 sek,
oddanie głosu 120 sek,
ujrzenie miny kaczora po wyborach - BEZCENNE!

funny:)


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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 16:21  #108

This is a message for all truly liberal, potential PO voters



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szkotja2007
  Oct 18, 07, 17:11  #109

Todays Dziennik has PO at 44% and PiS at 33%.


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Gosia
  Oct 18, 07, 17:12  #110

Quoting: lesser
truly liberal, potential PO voters

and such are most young people in poland.

LPR - please, please don't...
there was a discussion about giertych, i wont comment on his brilliant ideas.


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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 17:46  #111

This gentleman is not from LRP, this is Wojciech Popiela leader of UPR. When Kaczynski at the begging refused to debate with Tusk, the latter said that this is OBLIGATION of every democratic politician to debate. So Mr Popiela offered Mr Tusk debate proposal and guess what? Lack of response means that according to his own words Mr Tusk is not a democratic politician. ;)

Quoting: Gosia
there was a discussion about giertych, i wont comment on his brilliant ideas.


I have seen the thread but to call this discussion is really over-interpretation.

Quoting: Gosia
and such are most young people in poland.


I invite you to discussion on the subject between myself and Lukasz. Please show more courage than Mr Tusk :)

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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 17:53  #112

Quoting: szkotja2007
Todays Dziennik has PO at 44% and PiS at 33%.


Yeah right :) The only reliable pollster is PGB, because only their surveys were close to reality in recent election campaigns.

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szkotja2007
  Oct 18, 07, 18:00  #113

Quoting: lesser
Yeah right :)

I have to admit I don't know much about Dziennik, if it has a bias or what the reputation of its polls are. If anyone has a link to PGB I would be grateful for it. Thanks.


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lesser [Guest]
  Oct 18, 07, 18:19  #114

wiadomosci.onet.pl/wybory2007/1623309,news.html

Their last survey (Personally I think that PiS is a bit over-rated here)

PiS 36%
PO 30%
LiD 18%
PSL 6%
LPR 6%
SO 4%


Dziennik is biased in some way like every newspaper but the real problem are firms that make these surveys, plenty of them and their result in no way reflect final results.

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Lukasz
  Oct 18, 07, 18:58  #115

hahaha I dont know where have you find this pools, in all current PO leads by 10% ... you know I know it hurts when your side is lodting but the truth is that liberals form PO have 10% more votes than PiS and your LPR/UPR has only 1-2 %

Your idiot Korwin and fasist Giertych has only 1% of votes ... and it is true :)))) PO will win 100% and your data is not true :)))) but foreigners dont vote and I dont know why you
write this propaganda here .... :)))

and current polls ... conservatisms just watch and cry :))))

There are only two possibilities PO will govern alone or with LiD so just kiss our ass :))) Poland will be second Spain ... there church were helping for right side and what do we have there we all can see ...


as to the pools

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/wybory2007/1626205,news.html

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/wybory2007/1626205,news.html

so we F*** your conservatists and we have modern Poland first time since 1791 :))) Liberals will take leadership and will govern alone :)))




hehehe Liberals will take the power and you will see :)))) f*** your churches f*** your pope, F*** Radio Maryja. Just Peace Love and we will have second Spain here :)))


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Polson
  Oct 18, 07, 19:38  #116

Quoting: Lukasz
F*** Radio Maryja


How can we get rid of it and of Rydzyk ?... :P


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Lukasz
  Oct 18, 07, 19:46  #117

Quoting: Polson
How can we get rid of it and of Rydzyk ?... :P

who cares, according to current pools PO will govern alone or will form coalition with LiD :)))) ant it will be enought to F*** our sick president and all craze people in Poland. I know there is stereotype of conservative Poland but when we were realy free we were always the most liberal country in our region and I hope we will back to this tradition ... as to the extrem right parties they have 1% of support so ... :))) I hope there will be no surprises and we will make next grate step as first coutry in our regions since '89 :)))




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Polson
  Oct 18, 07, 19:53  #118

Yep, let's hope polls are right...2 days left before the D-day ;)


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 18, 07, 20:01  #119

I hope they will vote (one of the most popular party in Poland) it is after aprty but we can see more intersting things during the day ;))))




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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Oct 18, 07, 20:10  #120

so maybe just before our victory I will introduce PO supporters :)))))))




;)




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