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What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton?


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Dzhaklin
Edited by: Dzhaklin  Mar 6, 08, 09:39  #31

lowfunk99 wrote:
Bush will go down as one of the worst presidents ever.


You know thats what I think too. But the other day I was on msn.com and one of the headlines was Bush voted as one of the best presidents and I was thought that had to be a joke. You know who is really bad is the guy Bush appointed to the United Nations John Bolton. Man that guy is a xenophobic ass hole and represents the worst part of Americans to one of the IGO. The thing I can't wait for is a new cabinent hopefully there will be some highly educated non biased members. I'm so tired of the prejudice and moral majority here.

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lowfunk99
  Mar 6, 08, 09:46  #32

I can't wait to get to Poland. I know the US has some issues but its still a place where anyone can succeed if they work hard.

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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 09:53  #33

lowfunk99 wrote:

I can't wait to get to Poland. I know the US has some issues but its still a place where anyone can succeed if they work hard.


As long as your not an illegal alien, a atheist, or a homosexual. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not oblivious to prejudice in other countries but I can't stand it when people try to force others to follow their own moral codes.

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Dice
  Mar 6, 08, 10:04  #34

Both Obama and Clinton want to renegotiate NAFTA, at least officially. The thing is that Hillary was all for it when her husband put it in place. So either she was wrong then or she is lying about it now.

lowfunk99 wrote:
Bush will go down as one of the worst presidents ever.

I would say THE worst.

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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:06  #35

Dice wrote:
So either she was wrong then or she is lying about it now.


I think in the world of politics it's very easy to get a bad public image because of things like this. However I know I personally have changed my views on things in the last couple of years so I think its really negative to put such a connotation on "flip flopping". I know in the last election that was a huge thing

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Zgubiony
  Mar 6, 08, 10:06  #36

It's sad to see that people will actually vote for McCain....someone who GWB endorses. Why on earth would anyone vote for someone that Bush endorses???????

I'm torn. I like Obama, but his plan to bring all troops home within 16 mos is a bit shady IMO.


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lowfunk99
  Mar 6, 08, 10:06  #37

No I will not be an illegal. I am not an atheist or a homo.

Actually I am both Polish and Catholic.

I think most people here are as unhappy with what is going on as people around the world. I don't want the US to be the big stick in the world.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 6, 08, 10:08  #38

Dzhaklin wrote:
As long as your not an illegal alien, a atheist, or a homosexual. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not oblivious to prejudice in other countries but I can't stand it when people try to force others to follow their own moral codes.


What do you mean by this? Gays & athiests can't be successful in the US? I'm straight and choose whatever religion I want and I'm successful. Can you elaborate?


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MareGaea
  Mar 6, 08, 10:11  #39

Dzhaklin wrote:
I'm so tired of the prejudice and moral majority here.


Why do ppl always forget that this is factually the raison d'être of the US? This is the very core of the nation: fled religious groups prosecuted in the old country for being religious deviates or fanatics. I don't think it's surprising the Americans are like that. It's their foundation.

M-G

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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:14  #40

Zgubiony wrote:
What do you mean by this? Gays & athiests can't be successful in the US? I'm straight and choose whatever religion I want and I'm successful. Can you elaborate?


I think there are places in the Us like Texas (where I currently live) that being Gay or Atheist hinders your ability to be successful. Of course being gay are constantly discriminated against where as being an athiest it isn't as bad. Gays are constantly excluded from jobs, private clubs, and in some cities the whole society is completely against there lifestyle. I mean there have even been bills in the Us senate to make it unconstitutional to be gay.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 6, 08, 10:21  #41

Dzhaklin wrote:
I think there are places in the Us like Texas (where I currently live) that being Gay or Atheist hinders your ability to be successful. Of course being gay are constantly discriminated against where as being an athiest it isn't as bad. Gays are constantly excluded from jobs, private clubs, and in some cities the whole society is completely against there lifestyle. I mean there have even been bills in the Us senate to make it unconstitutional to be gay.


Nah...you're just in GWB country (sorry to hear) :) I'm in NY-NJ and it doesn't matter to anyone what you are. I think that this is limited to most of our redneck states. I tried to live in the south and I was miserable.


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:23  #42

Zgubiony wrote:

Nah...you're just in GWB country (sorry to hear) :) I'm in NY-NJ and it doesn't matter to anyone what you are. I think that this is limited to most of our redneck states. I tried to live in the south and I was miserable.


Yeah tell me about it. I know that the whole country is not like that, but unfortunately thats just where I president right now is from and his ideologies show that . I'm just ready: moving out of texas and a new president.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 6, 08, 10:25  #43

Dzhaklin wrote:
moving out of texas and a new president.

Thumbs up ;)

Good luck!


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:26  #44

Zgubiony wrote:
Thumbs up ;)

Good luck!

As soon as I'm done with school, whenever that may be... haha

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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 10:40  #45

Hillary lost in Wisconsin. Hahahaha.

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sledz
  Mar 6, 08, 10:42  #46

and in Illinois, where shes from..hahahaha

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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 10:52  #47

My friend voted for her coz she's a woman but I doubt she'll fight for women rights.

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Zgubiony
Edited by: Zgubiony  Mar 6, 08, 10:53  #48

krysia wrote:
My friend voted for her coz she's a woman

The intelligence of some Americans :) Wow.


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:53  #49

krysia wrote:

My friend voted for her coz she's a woman but I doubt she'll fight for women rights.


Hopefully she will if she is elected.

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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 10:56  #50

Americans don't have much choice for president: One's a woman, the other a black guy. All we need is a gay president. Hahaha

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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:58  #51

krysia wrote:
Americans don't have much choice for president: One's a woman, the other a black guy. All we need is a gay president. Hahaha


Yea one thats in the closet. All of those gay senator scandals this year. There was one that was soliciting sexual favors in a bathroom.

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polski_zyd
  Mar 6, 08, 11:02  #52

krysia wrote:
Americans don't have much choice for president: One's a woman, the other a black guy. All we need is a gay president. Hahaha


It's not much better here - we effectively have a one-party state, and have a choice between ultra-capitalist former public schoolboys who hate the working-class, or politically-correct liberal leftie control freak traitors who have betrayed the working class. Yet many are surprised to hear that BNP support has rocketed from a few thousand to a few HUNDRED THOUSAND in the last five years alone...

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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 6, 08, 11:03  #53

When I hear somebody like Krysia I wish there was a minimum IQ requirement for voting. Or a law which would say that anybody with less brain cells then an everage broom (Krysia!) could not vote.

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polski_zyd
  Mar 6, 08, 11:06  #54

Dice wrote:
When I hear somebody like Krysia I wish there was a minimum IQ requirement for voting. Or a law which would say that anybody with less brain cells then an everage broom (Krysia!) could not vote.


I'm sure someone will forgive her for daring to express an opinion. :p

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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 11:06  #55

Dice wrote:

When I hear somebody like Krysia I wish there was a minimum IQ requirement for voting. Or a law which says that anybody with less brain cells then an everage broom (Krysia!) could not vote.


Now thats a little harsh. Besides have you seen the test black people use to have to take to get the right to vote. Man its harder than the citizenship test...
http://kpearson.project.tcnj.edu/interactive/imm_files/test.html

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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 11:10  #56

Dice wrote:
When I hear somebody like Krysia I wish there was a minimum IQ requirement for voting. Or a law which would say that anybody with less brain cells then an everage broom (Krysia!) could not vote.

Why don't you go back to Poland where you came from and don't try to think like an American because you don't have a brain and you don't have a clue about American politics.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 6, 08, 11:11  #57

Well, the key word is used to :) Thank god we're not like this any longer. I just don't think it's too smart to vote for someone just because of their sex. Some women are too into the girl power thing without looking at the real issues.


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 11:13  #58

Zgubiony wrote:
Some women are too into the girl power thing without looking at the real issues


Yeah, i think thats true. You know the candidates on the democratic nomination are very very alike. The only thing that is really different is there universal health care plan.

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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 6, 08, 11:20  #59

Krysia, my apologies for hurting your feelings (not!). I should have let your words speak for yourself:
krysia wrote:
Americans don't have much choice for president: One's a woman, the other a black guy. All we need is a gay president. Hahaha

So, how is your life in the Nazi Party?

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JuliePotocka
  Mar 6, 08, 12:56  #60

So in politics, no one is ever allowed to change their minds? roflmao

Healthcare is very important to me; for the US to be so high and mighty, yet seeing people not having simple healthcare is disgusting. America is becoming a third world country under Bush, where the rich are becoming more so, and the poor onto the street. The middle class seems to be a myth anymore, crowded out by big business greed.

Want a job in the US, when there's such high unemployment? Work at McDonalds for Minimum wage! Because that's what is being offered in S. Cali, not that many high paying real jobs after Bushwhackers help to big business.

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