Polish-German Relations in the Present

sure...
why?
ever heard of europe?

- That is quite possible. Yet all people of good will should try to mend it.

Anyhow, I think that Poland's 'bad destiny' has ended and that we have a bright future ahead of us, no matter whether Germany should be friendly towards us or not.

rubbish...
no one can change?
how is progress possible then anywhere at this planet??
ever the pessimist...

- Good questions! By the way, by 'Europe' you mean the EU, don't you?

I think and hope that Polish and German ties will get better, conflicts are never good and bring sh!t ;)

can't see why the mindful people in germany should not be friendly towards poland...


it is people like filios who enters a thread that had a perfectly positive ending to stirr things up in a rather stupid populist manner and be simply disruptive...

very wrong and narrowminded...

- I'd like to ask you what you mean by all that? I'm not pro-German nor Germanophobe (in spite of some Germanophobic statements made in anger in reply to a neo-Nazi creep who was coming to this forum and insulted us full blast). I'd love it if the Germans liked us and we liked them. We've been neighbours for over 1000 years; it's time to start liking each other. Being friendly and neighbourly towards the Gerries doesn't preclude being friendly towards 'Slavic brothers,' whomever they may be.

true...


by europe i mean everybody who sees himself as part of the community...

- He's quite a character. No reason to worry about this fellow.
:)))

How about the extremists and populists in Germany?

well i do... simply because we had brought this thread to a nice ending that everyone ("to whom it concerns" in a way) could be happy with.
and people like this unfortunately all to often in this forum intervene...
usually only to prove their pointless points...

*headshake*

whatever... i think we both understand, don't we?
:-)

No, it is you, who probably aren't even Polish that disrupt Polish-German relations. The cowards of the West are happy with the way things are. You are one of them, slime.

Puzzler, I really doubt you are even Polish at all. You seem to be for Poland, yet you state things that make you seem like a Volksdeutche. You need to get you're priorities straight good man. And what does being more friendly mean for you? Probably giving back our land that we gained in the West after WW2 from the allies back to Germany eh? Something cowardly like that. I am all for a closer Europe, but lets get serious here. Germany has, and always will be the instigator of all the affairs. There is no negotiating with them when they can only spew Anti-Polish, and Polophobic shite our way.



No reason to worry about me eh? Puzzler, you really did have me going for a while that you were a true Pole and Slav. You have shown your true face. Poland only survives because there are people LIKE ME, true patriots who still support their inner nationalistic policies. But it is true, we are waging a losing battle, as demonstrated with PiS, being replaced by this "so called" Pole, Tusk.

- I hope we do. All the best, mate.
:)

And with a similar beautiful note, Poland was in slavery for so many years! Sold to the evils of Germany, Russia, and Austria. Thanks Puzzler, you and people like you will destroy our country soon enough..

dont talk such a rubbish...
i am german and so i most likely do more for the above relationship on a daily basis than you do.


okay... obviously you have some personal unresolved issues and EXACTLY this hatred instigates stupid things...


hahahahaha...

that is so yesterday...

your posts are pointless... but actually in a way very amusing...

got some more? ;-)

- Filios, what are you talking about? It's such a nonsense, mate. As for the subject of lack of patriotism, well, shouldn't you examine some of your statements in this forum?

Take it easy, mate.
;)

Like what?



Funny that you say that, when I recall you being the most, or what I now know was acting, pro-Polish with harsh tones in your posts.



my posts are what they are. amusing perhaps for you, but to some it is the truth, shining them right in the eyes, and they only need to realize that, and they will have salvation.



I have no inner-personal issues that are unresolved. My only issues with Germany and Poland negotiating, and being more friendly, are the terms that will be set forth, and surely bias towards the German side. Poland will be screwed, once again like all throughout history. But we shall rise up, just like at Gruwald, where our Slavic ancestors defended our homeland against the barbaric Germans.



yes, that is perhaps true, but for whom will this relationship more readily benefit? tell me

- And what specifically do you mean by this?

Puzzler please realize that this guy is a sham, a creep that is out to pollute the Polish threads and make the Germans out for our friendly compatriots. I have been to Germany, and I have seen their policies.

^or they saw you coming a mile away, the germans are good like that^

omg...

look. i am not polluting anything. there you should better look into a mirror.
tell me what poland is gaining from isolation. maybe it convinces me and i'll change my mind. so far you were only making statements which let me believe you have a very strong inferiority complex...



on a private note i am living with a polish girlfriend. (danger filios: because it might happen that i spoil polish blood...)

on a less private note i am moderating a german-polish forum, where interesting enough a far more friendly tone is spoken as it happens in this forum from time to time. yes we are smaller, but people there post when they actually have something to say...

Poland has nothing, and everything to gain from it. I have not said isolation is the correct means of building the country. Perhaps read more closely, friend.



and that is where you are wrong. i have never felt myself lower than any other human being, and even suffer from feeling higher, the total opposite of what you are saying. perhaps you are reading me wrong again? i fight for an influential nation, that co-exists with others and works with others on equal terms. where is the equality? Kaczynski tried in the EU voting system so that smaller nations could have a right in the proceedings of policies of EU, and of all people, who would have thought, Germany was 100% against it.




... which you mean is utter rubbish? No my friend, they are NOT posting what they truly feel, because they are hypnotized by you, and people like you, pollutants of the nationalistic soul.


really? because I could care less. I hope all is going well in that regards. If it happens that you impregnate her, well I have seen the policies of the Germans, and how they control what language the baby speaks if the family lives in Germany. Disgusting. How can Poland be closer to Germany, when there are still policies like that? The mother cant even teach, and the baby cant even learn Polish if the father is German. I have seen the truth, and I hope your g/f, and perhaps later, wife, will handle that.

- Right on, man.

You are blind Puzzler, for only a blind man cannot see the light of truth

here you speak utter rubbish. such policy does not exist and amongst certain (educated) parts of society having children to grow up bilingual is seen as a great opportunity.
don't try to picture germans all the time as backwards people. who are you trying to convince? yourself??


i am most certainly not your friend but thank you... apparently i have magic powers now... great. let's change the world then... ;-)

edit:

...says the right person.
maybe your truth is different from everybody elses??

I agree the_falkster, i know Polish-German friends i saw on holiday in Poland, they speak both German and Polish.
And if such a law existed, what would the authorities do if a family speaks 2 languages ? Call the police ?...

Denying it now, eh? hehe, and this is where I have caught you. There are many instances, I shall give you this one to munch on for now.

Poles back estranged father in language ban row
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/24/wpole2 4.xml

Not enough? Please ask, and I'll post more, for all us to see.



No magical powers, sheer slyness.



I did not say a law existed, however Germanies inner policies are still defined quite well, as Anti-Polish.
Please read the above article. There are many instances where courts rule for these kinds of things.

echt? kannste mir den Link per PN senden?

Look, you already have a convert falkster, well done!

your link shows a completely different case.
i am sure even you will see that.

yes. quite clearly this is a discussable case and personally i disagree with the hamburg welfare's decision, but still there is no such thing as a policy for such cases in germany.

i don't feel caught... sorry.

have to work tomorrow. sleep for now...

Don't bring me into your fight mate. I'm a neutral observer.