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southern
  Jun 16, 07, 17:26  #31

It is not only that she was killed but the way it was done.Who is usually burnt alive?

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slwkk
  Jun 16, 07, 17:33  #32

Quoting: southern
Who is usually burnt alive?


Holy Inquisition... err but that's past.

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southern
  Jun 16, 07, 17:35  #33

Quoting: slwkk


Holy Inquisition... err but that's past.


Exactly.It is kind of harsh punishment.Immigrants are burnt alive.

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GREG_2
Edited by: GREG_2  Jun 16, 07, 17:38  #34

If the government don't bring this guy here, I won't give them my vote next time.

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Eastender
  Jun 16, 07, 17:39  #35

Quoting: southern
It is not only that she was killed but the way it was done


commiserations to the girls family but i think we can all take heart that the ex-boyf has been arrested and the judiciary system will now run it course

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BubbaWoo
  Jun 16, 07, 17:54  #36

british police are pretty good tho, eh...?

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Eastender
  Jun 16, 07, 17:58  #37

Quoting: BubbaWoo
british police are pretty good tho, eh...?


you bet!

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peterweg
  Jun 16, 07, 18:05  #38

Quoting: ola123
Shame on UK.


Shame on Poland for allowing her to come to the UK.

What an idiotic statement

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Merrick
  Jun 17, 07, 00:27  #39

A type calling himself 'Proud2bNaija' lists the cases of alleged Polish offenders of Brits. He's main message seems to be: 'Poles abuse the Brits too, therefore the burning alive of the Polish girl in Liverpool is justified.' But cases you are giving come from Britain, not from Poland. I haven't heard of British girl burnt alive by a Polish man in Poland. I have never heard about a British person even mildly mugged in Poland. Our attitude towards you visiting Poland seems much more respectful than yours towards us visiting Britain.

And it's been always so. I remember cases of decent Polish people being treated like animals by British customs, for nothing, just for the fact they were Poles; it was before we joined the EU.

Now I am afraid your image in Poland may change into much worse.

And yes, the mistreatment of Poles in Britain at present is on racial grounds. The main culprits are the media psychopaths in Britain who set part of the public against us. These psychopaths should pay for their hate propaganda.

Therefore I suggest that, if you have got any decency at all, you shut up and accept the bitter remarks from ola- and other Polish folks here.

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Merrick
  Jun 17, 07, 00:31  #40

Peterweg, do you mean that ola's statement that the burning alive of the Polish girl in Liverpool is shame on the UK is idiotic? You mean that folks in UK shouldn't be ashamed of the crime?

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Patrycja19
  Jun 17, 07, 01:00  #41

Quoting: peterweg
Shame on Poland for allowing her to come to the UK.


that was idiotic statement.. so you condone this guys actions?

so it would be ok for you to travel to another country alone, or with friends, meet
someone and they are not from uk, but another nationality, she decided to cut off
your ( peterweg) and you wont be able to have children, would it be the UK"S fault
for letting you travel??

yes, that is what i thought, this was a act of a psycho boyfriend who was prob
a stalker, she had no idea how mental he was till she broke it off, and this is the
end result.. it can happen in any country, this was tragic, awful and unforgivable.
his parents are probably beside themselfs with grief over his actions.. how could
anyone take someones life ? or be so cruel? without regard? without remorse?

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ukinpoland
  Jun 17, 07, 04:30  #42

Quoting: southern
Exactly.It is kind of harsh punishment.Immigrants are burnt alive


I remember reading about a homeless English guy who was burnt alive by 3 youths in a park. Its not just foriegn people this has happened to.

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ukinpoland
  Jun 17, 07, 04:32  #43

This wasnt a racist attck, it was a physco who couldnt handle rejection. If he was a racist against Polish people why would he have been in a relationship with her in the first place.

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daffy
  Jun 17, 07, 04:52  #44

Yet again, I am very disappointed in the views of many members posting here.

This is almost a repeat of the little girl killed in Italy thread.

It is not a reflection on the Uk as a whole. it was not a racist again. It was two people whom one did an unforgiveable act. if she were any other nationality, puzzler, ola, greg, wouldn't care. and that is disgusting.

i do care, i care for the fact she was burnt alive - no matter where she was from, rather for who she is. a feeling, breathing, person

shame on you

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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Jun 17, 07, 05:03  #45

Quoting: daffy
It is not a reflection on the Uk as a whole. it was not a racist again


of course not... but it was made to look that way by certain people with an agenda...

Quoting: daffy
This is almost a repeat of the little girl killed in Italy thread.


yup... its those certain people and their agenda again...

Quoting: daffy
puzzler, ola, greg


yup... those certain people... with an agenda... and guilty of most they cry foul about

why is it put up with daff... its racist and disgusting... and appears to be done with the intent of inciting hatred and discord...

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Daisy
  Jun 17, 07, 05:07  #46

Quoting: daffy
i do care, i care for the fact she was burnt alive - no matter where she was from, rather for who she is. a feeling, breathing, person


I couldn't agree more.

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curlyspy007
  Jun 17, 07, 06:07  #47

Quoting: daffy
i do care, i care for the fact she was burnt alive - no matter where she was from, rather for who she is. a feeling, breathing, person

shame on you

I agree wth you 100%, firstly i would lke to say that my condolences goes out to this young womans family and friends.
It sickens my stomach to think this girl wanted to just move on with her life and some scumbag did this horrific act to her it fills me with anger, i know revenge is not the answer but personally i would soak him in acid or leave him in a room for several hours with her family...I know this may not be the answer in a few peoples eyes but im fuming inside as something like this has happened to an aunt of mines many years ago...R.I.P

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Ranj
  Jun 17, 07, 06:36  #48

Quoting: GREG_2
If the government don't bring this guy here, I won't give them my vote next time.

Why would they bring him there? The crime was committed in the UK and therefore he should be punished in the UK.....I believe he will get the appropriate punishment for his actions (no less than what he would get in Poland).

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BubbaWoo
  Jun 17, 07, 06:41  #49

Quoting: GREG_2
If the government don't bring this guy here, I won't give them my vote next time.


lets hope they dont bring him to poland then, ay...

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ukinpoland
  Jun 17, 07, 06:58  #50

Quoting: GREG_2
If the government don't bring this guy here, I won't give them my vote next time.


So you voted for the government that are in power now? Wow. I think bubba has a good point then.

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peterweg
  Jun 17, 07, 07:17  #51

Quoting: Merrick
Peterweg, do you mean that ola's statement that the burning alive of the Polish girl in Liverpool is shame on the UK is idiotic? You mean that folks in UK shouldn't be ashamed of the crime


You shouldn't be ashamed of something you didn't do. Why shouldn't Poland be ashamed as well. How about Turkey? Japan? the entire planet?

Closer to home, obviously this girl should be blamed for getting involved with a psychopath.
Her family and friends should be ashamed that they did not stop her relationship with this man.

Ola and everyone else who applies collective blame, should be ashamed that they did nothing to help this girl.


^ Obviously this is bollocks.

Maybe its a throwback to the communist mindset, or maybe its just Ola's racist agenda. But don't make a connection between a murderer and an entire (very diverse) nation, after all you also condemn the million Poles who live here as they are part of the UK.

Quoting: Merrick
A type calling himself 'Proud2bNaija' lists the cases of alleged Polish offenders of Brits. He's main message seems to be: 'Poles abuse the Brits too, therefore the burning alive of the Polish girl in Liverpool is justified.'



No, thats you twisted interpretation of it. What is shows is 'People who live in glass houses should throw stones' . Or as Jesus said, 'let those of you who have no sin. throw the first stone'.
Immigrants come to the UK and commit crime, a lot more that British people do. Over the past two decades 90% of Policemen killed have been by non UK nationals.

**** happens, crimes happen. Don't use it to make racist attacks on another country, either direction.

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Daisy
  Jun 17, 07, 07:54  #52

Quoting: peterweg
Closer to home, obviously this girl should be blamed for getting involved with a psychopath.
Her family and friends should be ashamed that they did not stop her relationship with this man.



On everything else I agree with you, but not this comment. How was she supposed to know he would turn out to be a psychopath? he didn't have it tattooed across his forehead. Psychopaths are very clever and cunning and can appear to be quite normal, in fact charming. If it happened to your daughter, you wouldn't like to hear a comment like that.

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ukinpoland
  Jun 17, 07, 07:59  #53

Quoting: Daisy
On everything else I agree with you, but not this comment. How was she supposed to know he would turn out to be a psychopath?


Daisy Peterweg was saying that this comment is complete rubbish.

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Daisy
  Jun 17, 07, 08:07  #54

Quoting: ukinpoland
Daisy Peterweg was saying that this comment is complete rubbish.



sorry, in that case I completely agree with him.

who said it first then?

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Amathyst
  Jun 17, 07, 08:19  #55

Its a terrible thing, I remember in 1993 a 16 year old girl was kidnaped and tortured for a week and then taken to a park or something and set on fire (Suzanne Capper), some of you may remember. You see it has nothing to do with nationality, some people are just evil.

I think its a shame that you are all arguing about it, pitty you all just cant agree thats it a terrible thing.

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BubbaWoo
  Jun 17, 07, 08:22  #56

some silly fuker decided to bring race into it...

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Amathyst
  Jun 17, 07, 08:45  #57

Yep, thats always the way in here Im starting to notice

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peterweg
Edited by: peterweg  Jun 17, 07, 08:57  #58

Quoting: southern

Have you heard about any english girl burnt alive by boyfriend?


Yes and worse.

And what does 'English' have to do with it anyway? if you are going to get racist, Clarke is an Irish name (Liverpool has a very high density of Irish people). Are you going to condem Ireland now, just for good measure?

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BubbaWoo
  Jun 17, 07, 09:55  #59

Quoting: Amathyst
Yep, thats always the way in here Im starting to notice


yeah... seems to be the same people as well...

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neanderthal
  Jun 17, 07, 09:59  #60

sounds crazy, but brits r rude & intolerant :) ~ ;)

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