Polish girl burned alive in Liverpool

i saw in newz abt some big brother show in uk - :-o, wot happend to dat girl? iz she a sish kebab now? :)

It may or may not just be me, but as an Englishman in this Forum I have noticed quite a defensive attitude from a fair amount of Poles, the "You attack one, you attack us all" notion, and that any form of attack seems to be nationality based? I dont get it...

Everyone ought to know that its down to the individual not a bloody nation.

its not just you who has noticed this... and certain posters scream racism in one breath whilst making racist remarks in the next... double standards seems to be the order of the day for some...

Peterweg seems to consider Ola's comment 'a throwback to the communist mindset.'

What do you mean by 'the communist mindset,' and why Ola's comment should be evidence of it?

Isn't it just name-calling on your part of the you-bloody-commie kind?

So your mindset is allegedly superior to the communist one? Why and how?

:)

the sad thing is that a lot of these posters are just re-enforcing the steroetypes they are trying so hard to dismiss...

us americans r smtimes victims of generalisations ~ and to say da truth we're most tolerant ppl around! i've got black, arab, spanish n indian friends! n i luv em all.. (myself a caucasian blonde). I find britts uncomfortable of everythin way too much! n many of ur are quite intolerant kinda. anything different (even ideaz...r sometimze ppl) r automatically a reason fr ur pain ... jeez :S - just chillax

not quite sure how what i said relates to what you have written... but its possible i missed it as i couldnt understand half of what you wrote...

could you try again please

I think you just enforced alot of British people's stereotypical thoughts on Americans, lol.

aheem- i speak my own language ;):)

Communism wasnt as bad as it is seen by the West now. There were pluses and minuses just like now in cruel capitalism are pluses and minuses. World isnt just white and black and West philosophy is not one and the best. Im not offended to be called communist mindest, after all when I was born communism in my country was almost a history.

I think that of Hitler Germany should be ashamed and Russia of Stalin, and so on........

Being that England is renowned as being one of the most tolerant countrys Id like to know why you think were not, however judging by your written skills I would doubt any kind of logical response.

great... you need to practice your english tho...

Hmm that would be why people travel half way around the world to find sanctuary here, oh that would be why the UK opened up its borders and people have flocked here in their droves...I'd love the know how many British people you actually know, probably none. The UK is a melting pot of all nationalities and your pathetic excuse of writing also reinforces the strereotype of thick blondes

hmmm... maybe the user name is a clue...?

I'm American and I really don't understand what you are saying......?

I am also blonde, so I hope I don't reinforce stereotype of a thick blonde....;)

Let's analyse the comment by the type calling himself 'daffy.' He says he's from Ireland.

re: I am very disappointed in the views of many members posting here.

- You mean that these members should scribble as you expect them to? No free thinking and speaking with kadaffy? :)

re: This is almost a repeat of the little girl killed in Italy thread.

- Yes indeed - your twisted Polonophobic argumentation (in a very bad English) is nearly identical as then.

re: It is not a reflection on the Uk as a whole.

- And what do you mean by that?

re: it was not a racist again.

- And how do you know that? Give facts. Do you know these people and the details of their relation? Give them.

re: It was two people whom one did an unforgiveable act.

- Do you mean it's irrelevant that the girl was Polish? Why not? - Therefore it should be irrelevant that you're Irish; and yet you mention that you are. It should be irrelevant that the crime took place in UK, and yet you scribble:'It is not a reflection on the Uk as a whole' (whatever you mean by that). Finally, it should be irrelevant that, for example, it was the British soldiers who did the Bloody Sunday in Ireland; to use your jargon it was just two peoples 'whom one did an unforgiveable act' (to follow your stylistic extricacies); and yet the Irish (including you?) talk about the British, and often only English, soldiers who did that. Oh, and this board shouldn't be called 'Polish Forum,' should it? And yet it's still called 'Polish Forum.' Any idea why?

re: if she were any other nationality, puzzler, ola, greg, wouldn't care. and that is disgusting.

- How do you know that I wouldn't care? Are you some sort of future-predicting psychic? And even if I wouldn't care that much, what's wrong with it? I'm Polish, therefore I care about the Polish people above all others. Don't you care about the Irish above any others? And don't you care about non-Irish less than about the Irish? - Of course you do; your cold-hearted comments about the Polish girl in Liverpool and about the little Polish girl shot down by an Italian show you don't carre about the Poles so much that you try to even play down their nationality. It's you who are disgusting, bud.

re: i do care, i care for the fact she was burnt alive - no matter where she was from, rather for who she is. a feeling, breathing, person

- Alas, your comments, in this thread and in many others, show that you are a Polonophobe. Therefore your assurance that you care about the girl is meaningless; it's just a lip service.

re: shame on you

- For what exactly? Are you implying that it's us grieving Polish folks who are doing something shameful?

Again, it's you who are acting shamelessly.

It's a shame you're a moderator on this board. An intolerant Polonophobe like you shouldn't have such a function on a real Polish forum.

High five! :P

so it seems the leopard keeps his spots just the way they were...

you and a little band of your compats enforce the steroetype you rail against so...

you do your fellow countrymen no favours

Where is the truth?????

In the UK newspapers they've pointed out that the girl's boyfriend did that to her.....?

In the Polish news, they're describing : she came to the UK a one week ago and while walking on the street, she was attacked. ( looks like- attacked by the strangers??)
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and continue on the Polish news: her neighbours statement , from the Uk: "she was a pretty and really nice girl"

mojawyspa.co.uk/artykuly/19125/Polka-spalona-zywcem

Certainly not aimed you Ranj



it was her comment I was aiming it :)



back atcha!

I know, A....i was just being facetious! :) She (neandrethal) reminds me of the white youth that run around with their pants down to their knees, trying to fit into a hip hop culture....

I don't really know what's going on, but I won't be surprise, that the old Poland 's "buddy" is doing his work:)


PS: Disgusting!!!

british media say she had been in liverpool for 13 months...

icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_head line=girl-burned-alive-was-polish-beauty&method=full&objectid=19304404 &siteid=50061-name_page.html

british media also report that the neighbours said she was stunnigly beautiful

Puzzler, your post in non-sensicle, devoid of any heart for the true crime and are intent on nothing more than your self serving motives.

a human being has been brutally murdered. you care not for her rather you see a chance to brand hatred on the ENTIRE UK.

you are a disgrace to all decent people i know (from ANY NATIONALITY including poles of which im glad to saty you are the only one i know with such horrid views)

you are unable to see the big picture and see only lines on politcal maps. You accuse me of things that i do not give any support in my posts for and i cannot imagine how you come to the conclusions i am a polonophobe yet again! (despite in another thread calling me a polonophile in another)

i am being quite clear so much so no one but you has to question what i mean. We have been down this road to many times before puzzler. You have lost any respect i could have for you. (bear in mind this has nothing to do with where you are from and is not a rascist attack as you could be irish and i would still say the same to you! the fact is i say all the above to you as an individual and as an individual it is my opinion you have a poor view of and low tolerance of other peoples.)

by the by, i dont moderate your 'views' i moderate the rules. break them, anyone who breaks them, gets moderated. that is fair and you know it.

Just goes to show that everyone can put a spin on details to serve their own agenda....I find it interesting in the polish news that they say her neighbours from UK said she was pretty and nice....kind of peculiar that she only was there a week and her neighbours new her so well, don't you think?

i agree with this response 100%, couldnt have said it better myself....

This forum is the most racist I'm a member of. Poles seem to be obsessed with race, not surprising since their contact with the outside word has been very limited for a long time.

But the British (don't refer to the English, its a nation of Irish, Scots, Welsh and English) have many waves of immigrants coming here spreading back centuries.
In rough order we've had Jews, Germans, French, Irish, Poles, Hungarian, Black Caribbean, Indian, Pakistani, South African, Australian, French, Swedish and now the Poles again.
The UK, as pointed out has a open door policy to refugee's and the politically repressed, so much so that neo-nazi American's refer to it as Londonistan. Everybody is welcome here.

In comparison, whats Polands tolerence levels like? A constant talk about Poland and its 'race', why are Polish men/Women better, why is Poland so F***ing perfect, etc. How much do we hate XXXX country. I've even heard a Pole say London is too cosmopolitan...wtf?


'Race' or Nationalism is history. Poland is now part of the EU, it will take time but nationalism will die out. Get used to it and shut up with the nationalistic ****.

re: so it seems the leopard keeps his spots just the way they were...

- What exactly do you mean by that? Can you explain in plain English (if you're able to)?

re: you and a little band of your compats enforce the steroetype you rail against so...

- And what do you mean by this? In what way me and 'a little band' of my 'compats' enforce (sic) the stereotype we allegedly rail against 'so'? Why exactly do you refer to us in such a contemptuous manner?

re: you do your fellow countrymen no favours

- Why?

As for you, you seem to be a fine species of the typical narcisstic chauvinistic (no criticism!) and bereft of human feelings kind amongst your countrymen.

If I were you, I'd rather worry about your not doing your countrymen any favours.

you were a silly person as puzzler and you are a silly person as merrick