Polish immigration in UK

Buddy has opened the curtains and let the correct come shining through on his last post!

However now with big companies calling the shots, they've decided to cut on transport costs and get as many low paid workers into the UK as fast as they can. Hooray for government!

It's sad really that there are no jobs that pay well enough in Poland for the Polish, but plenty that pay much better in UK, Ireland, Germany and Holland.

Anybody see the film "Ghosts" about migrant workers? This phenomenon is actually increasing the disparity between classes.

Bottom line, it's not a healthy situation when loads of people have to leave there own country just for a fair shake.

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Agree 100%

you are a wise men my son

To shift the attention to another "detail", have there been many posts blaming UK employers for hiring Poles?

The principle is simple. Market economy.

Hit the streets and protest the hiring policies of big and small employers. Poles will go home within weeks. Those UK companies may follow them to Poland (similar to outsourcing to China, India and elsewhere), but that's a different story. What counts is that then the unemployed Brits will be happier (or sad because of the lack of someone to blame?)

Quoting isthatu. I dont think having an opinion is treason and most armed forces guys agree the goverment are wrong. Treason is when you try to overthrow a goverment which is not what i am saying on here. And when i say fight the goverment i dont mean literally as in violence. I mean you can push your strong opinons forward and not vote for them again if you diagree with how they run the country. I think a minority of people on on this blog like to blow things out of proportion. I dont think any armed forces guy is out to insite violence or attempt to overthrow there goverment in uk they only object and disagree with some of there polices which there intitled to there opinon. I hope that clears that up for you.CJ

I don't think violence has to be the answer, but your pocketbook is a possible solution.

When Muslims in Jordan were upset with the cartoons depicting Mohammed (pbhn) (and don't start about that, this is just a very good example) they simply stopped buying any and all danish (or dutch sorry too lazy to check) dairy products. That was not a good situation for the dairy exporters to Jordan.

I know I will not buy any US or UK products due to Iraq. I just won't. Once the self contrabanded stuff i have wears out, it gets replaced with something from somewhere else.

If you don't like the employment situation then boycott. Target specific industries and stay firm. Reward the businesses you feel are respecting your country. Remember that

Politics is only the shadow cast by business.

The turn around has to start somewhere.

Dont give sarcasm to someone you dont know very well. I am entitled to give my opinion thats all. For saying im not brainy mate, I happen to be part of a team of guys who puts my neck on the line everyday to make sure people like you are protected against terrorists in this country. I am a little more clued up than most on whats going on in the world. Cj

And we are eternally grateful to you. Have a medal.

none is asking for a medal it,s a matter of honour and pride why we do what we do to protect the country, and i was not quoting my message to you mate. it was to some ass hole on here.Cj

Quoting: (GRZEGORZ). Dont give sarcasm to someone you dont know. I am entitled to give my opinion thats all. For saying im not brainy mate, I happen to be part of a team of guys who puts my neck on the line everyday to make sure people like you are protected against terrorists in this country. I am a little more clued up than most on whats going on in the world. Cj

Quoting Mr Bubbles: thanks for the support of the message you sent. Very Appreciated. Cheers Cj

if it was,nt for us british alot of you would have no employment , or you would be on 50p an hour back in poland ! think yourselves very lucky that british employers actually do employ you , i know of two polish families that live in the uk and weekly draw benefits and family allowance for children that live in poland ! do you also think that is right because i don,t so i will make it my mission in life to have these bloodsuckers taken to court for fraud ! the man tomek needs to get off his arse and get a job to support his family not sit around all day and moan that he has no money for the pub , what a waste of public money , and a embarrassment to other poles , my girlfriend is polish from szubin and she hates the fact that this man is so lazy , when her dad nearly 60 year old works and has done all his life for crap money , he has a beautiful small tidy home and i as an english man feel honored and proud to have met such a genuine man ! he is a proud guy and has every right to be , my girlfriend does,nt know this yet but when we get married in the summer i am buying her parents a home in the uk and they will never have to worry about money ever again ! her mum and dad are my family too and i love them very much , so any whingers out there get of youre asses get a job and help youre own situation ok

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you speak a load of **** alma , what a dumb ass

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give me polish people any day over any other nationality !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck there,they arnt breaking the law.....You could move to Poland and claim Polish benefits for your Kids,so alls fair :)

It was a joke mate, I know enough British armed forces personnel from all ranks from Private/Aircraftsmen to newly retired Sqdrn leaders to know where most of you guys stand :)

sorry but taking funds out of an already crippled economy is not my idea of helping a former eastern block country to its feet is it , i,m a great believer in work for what you want , not be a sponger and sit on youre arse all day whilst youre family suffers on £70 a week , i moved from newcastle after watching my father struggle during the miners strike we all pulled together as a family should , we would of been ashamed to claim benefits that should go to the genuine needy , not the genuine lazy & greedy , we struggled through for a year and a half surviving on next to nothing as the wages were,nt excellent - product of a thatcherised uk at the time , she had the working masses screwed down tight and the poll tax riots were the people of this nation venting their anger at the way we were being treated , you were probably in a different country at the time walking camels or donkeys up n down a beach somewhere lol , i had enough of the crap thatcher and her GVT of legalised robbers & the way they were treating good honest working class people much as is happening today eh , i moved to london to really see if i could earn a living and look after my family !! & you wanna know something i could and very easily within 8 years i had banked my first million , and 14 years down the line i found myself owning 17 houses 2 garages and a string of small businesses , this came about by sheer graft and determination , NOT SITTING ON MY ARSE AND WAITING FOR THE GVT CHEQUE TO COME THROUGH THE DOOR !! You see the moral of this story is you won,t get very far in life if you decide to give up before you even begun , so all you polish men & women need to think on and get your selves out to work and contribute a little something to youre children and family , Its all to easy to rip off the social security as its run by clowns anyway , and get into the way of never having nothing , but get out to work get a little self respect and make youre children proud !! i employ a team of builders and 4 of those guys are polish , they work very well and i pay them very well , they do brilliant work for me so i pay them what they are worth and thats £24 an hour they work a 40 hour week and they work bloody hard and i appreciate every thing they do for me , that is why this christmas i have booked them all trips to go back to poland with an extra £1000 in their pockets , to take home to their families , my soon to be wife is polish and her parents are the most genuine people you will ever meet , so people hard work has its benefits trust me , but laziness well what can i say youre only letting yourselves down , think about that when you get youre next cheque for 130 - 140 for 2 weeks .

ha ha ha white trams trying so hard to prove a point i got all you dim wits going dident i you fools fell right in my trap you tramps just proves my point you scabby scroungers


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why is it 2 out of three polish people in the us are on the dole along whit the ****** race

Anybody ? Translation to English, please ? And btw, this is about Polonia in the UK & Ireland, so if you wanna babble about Poles in the US, then get your ar$e outta here, buddy.

....that most Geordies are full of shyt?

:) it's funny how this thread was started ax a very nice polish lady am like most threads in here it's gone to sh!t

I THINK TO MUCH EMPHASIS IS PUT ON BLAMING MIGRANTS COMING TO UK. LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE THE ONLY ONES TO BLAME IS THE GOVERMENT ON HOW THEY HAVE HANDLED TO WHOLE ISSUE OF PEOPLE COMING TO UK FOR WORK. ONE EXAMPLE IS THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER HANDED OUT ANY BENEFITS TO MIGRANTS UNTIL THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED AT LEAST TWO YEARS INTO THE TAX SYSTEM, THEN IT WOULD OF CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER COMING HERE AND ONLY GENUINE WORKERS WOULD BE HERE. NOT ALLOW SCROUNGERS TO GET COUNCIL HOUSES FREE AND LIVE OFF THE STATE. ALSO THEY SHOULD ADOPT AMERICAS POLICY AND ONLY GIVE A 6 MONTH WORK VISA TO KEEP TRACK OF WHOS HERE NOT JUST GUESS. THE LABOUR PARTY NOW REALISE THEY CANT COPE WITH THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE AND THE DEMAND IT,S PUTTING ON THE HEALTH SERVICE /SCHOOLS HOUSING AND ROAD CONGESTION. DUE TO A LOT OF LAZY ARSE BRITISH PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO WORK AND LIVE OFF THE DOLE IS THE WHOLE REASON YOU NOW HAVE A MAJORITY OF MIGRANTS HERE DOING THE JOBS, SO IT,S TOO LATE TO ***** AND MOAN AND SAY THERE TAKING ALL THE JOBS AND HOUSES ETC. I DONT LIKE IT AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE SEEING THE BRITISH IDENTITY SLOWLY VANISH BUT WHAT CAN WE DO OUR HANDS ARE TIED THE ONLY WAY TO HIT BACK IF YOU REALY FEEL THAT STRONG ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY DONT VOTE FOR THE TWO GOVERMENTS TORIES AND LABOUR. A NATIONAL VOTE SHOULD OF BEEN OFFERED TO THE WHOLE OF BRITISH PUBLIC TO OF HAD THE OPTION TO VOTE EU OR NON EU. CJ

Isn't that how It is now ?

QUOTING GRZEGORZ:IF YOU WATCHED A PROGRAMME SOME WEEKS AGO CALLED DISPATCHES IT SHOWED THAT A SOMALIAN WOMEN CAME TO UK WITH NOTHING COULD HARDLY SPEAK ANY ENGLISH GOT TW0 KIDS AND WAS GETTING PAID £32,000 A YEAR IN BENEFITS AND WAS GIVEN A THREE BEDROMM COUNCIL HOUSE. SO NO THATS NOT HOW IT IS NOW.

She probably was getting that as a "refugee" or something. I think that people from new EU members have to work at least a year before they can claim any benefits except those for kids, which are more like a tax credit than normal benefits.

not to stir the pot here, but

any clue where the lovely isle of britain gained most of its wealth over the years?

How about BP? What oil reserves does britain have that this corporation has become so wealthy? How responsible are british corporations abroad? Do they adhere to environmental regulations and human rights standards of Britain while operating abroad.

You seem like a genuine guy, and I applaud your efforts and focus and wish you luck. I also hope you examine the big picture too.

erm,how about the NORTH SEA fields smarty pants?

and that's it? if that is the sole source of any of bp's fortunes both past and present then i must humbly admit my glaring ignorance and apologize for that. However i still stand by the rest of my querries as honest questions in this matter.

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yes johnny me old mucker, not sure what britains imperial past has to do with a million Poles arriving here? Or am I forgeting Poland being being invaded by Lord Flashman and claimed for Queen Vicky?

i do look at the enviroment , and i also understand the issues with global warming and i also understand the uk as well as the rest of the E U has played there part too , everyone who drives a motor car , everyone who uses gas , everyone who uses electricity contributes to the demise of the enviroment so lets get off the band wagon of blaming the uk for all the worlds wrongs , what about the many achievments the uk is responsible for ie , the motor car , the aeroplane , the tv , the lightbulb , the nuclear weapons , ships , tanks , neutron bomb , the manufacture of many wonderful drugs like penicillin , drugs to treat asthma , heart disease , and many many more things to be proud of , if people dislike the uk so much ask yourself one question HONESTLY ! why do they flock here in their millions , if they don,t like it LEAVE simple really , they have a choice , but please don,t make youre way into my country and whinge like little faggits about how bad it is , GO HOME EASY AS THAT !!!!!!!!!!!

completely agree but i think it should be 5 years .

no i'm sorry if you interpreted my challenge that way. What i meant to imply is that, the wealth of the nation you live in was not got by means completely devoid of exploitation of other nations and peoples. While you may have not contributed to this, you and yours certainly benefit from it. I could wonder how concerned you really are about the ethicacy of how the money that goes into the british economy is got? How concerned are you about the ethicacy and responsibility of british national corporations abroad?

I'm not saying you yourself are contributing to any unethical (read exploitation) abroad (except if you support the corporations responsible for it with your pocket book-one reason not to shop at ASDA), but if you're not equally dismayed and ready to do something about that then your position comes off as more than a little disingenuous.



well unless you're one of the people who actually played a key role in developing those things or contributed in some mighty way to the history of those events or are doing so now in some way then i'd say this is non-point and you really have nothing to be proud of as you've in no way influenced these things. agree to disagree.




well ask yourself why the english (in the past mind you, and not you personally) went abroad to lands where they considered the people "inferior?" It's the money stupid.


i whole heartedly agree with your sentiments but i'm not sure if whinging like a "really no need for that" on a message board will really solve your problem.

hmmm i looked it up and here's my source:
bp.com/multipleimagesection.do?categoryId=23&contentId=7017765

Bp in fact operates far beyond only the north sea, i retract my apology and stand by my initial querry but remain ready to admit any good points should you make one. But it does appear you need to flesh out your arguement more for me to do this.

- You mean it is not a healthy situation that over hundreds of years countless Brits have been leaving Britain for the New World, Australia, New Zealand, etc.?
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PS. And yourself, if I'm not mistaken, also are living abroad, aren't you? ;)

- Well, zeze, you're a South American Jew yourself (or so you say). Then if you're against emigration so much, what the hell are you doing in Poland?
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