Polish immigration in UK

quoting foreigner / read my messages properly you mug , god you lose the plot so quickly , i said that some people come to the uk and straightaway they begin to claim benefits and suck money out of the state , when they should come to the uk earn a living - ie work and yep i have no problem with that at all , but contribute through taxes as we all do and then after 3 - 5 years if youre unfortunate to fall out of work then you have every right to a claim . please read my messages from the beginning before you spout off .

isnt that what happens in un civilised countries people selling themselves for a loaf of bread , mind you aint such a bad thing , some of the european birds are worth a loaf or two lol


because the polish gvt has kept the masses downtrodden while they all become rich off the back of their own countrymen , i lived in szubin for 6 month and in the villages this is more apparent than the glossy cities like warsaw

did it take you long enough? and all you could come up with was that?

It seems that you are just a touch thin skinned and couldn't take any criticism of your stated qualm(s). No worries, despite your potty talk, miserable verbal diarrhoea, mildly amusing (not to mention uninformed) world view and racial stereotyping (lending credence to the arguement that you were [if not are] suffering from lazy thinking), i want to show you that i wasn't and am not entirely against you.

So stop asking and answering your own questions as you've just done and open yourself up to the notion that you really are looking at the situation through a the reactionary lense of child-like observation. In other words, give your head a shake and stop with the temper tantrums.



first of all, don't follow if all you're going to do is complain how lost you are. get with the program or go back to your misdirected whinging.


I empathized with you at the outset however you were too busy draggin your knuckles to figure that out. You took the one criticism i made and did more than a little spouting of your own, buddy boy.

I still empathize with your postion, but my criticism of it stands. Now go back and read my reply to your post.

You've got to see the bigger picture on these matters, you can't go trying to wage war (metaphor for any of you dolts ready to jump on that one) against' every individual you see abusing the system. First recognize the system for what it is, and has been, then go after the policy makers(should you get that far in your reasoning). As individuals, we're largely reationary so it' like trying to take care of the coughing instead of the virus.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm trying to find a good deal on alegro and get a couple pilsners down me (they're ok but they got nothing on english ales).


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hmmm somehow i missed that bit you wrote, unless you just edited that, however i'll lay blame on my own p!$$ poor reading skills and apologize but also note duly, your observation rings true in the UK as well. Polish leaders and big players just seem to be more brazen (read less sophisticated) about their, ummm, oh to heck with euphamisms, criminal exploitation of their own people. And although (i'm sure they would if they could), they can't really compete with the exploiting that b.n. firms do abroad (and at home, may the god & the queen bless migrant workers). That is, the british have become rich off the backs of other peoples' countrymen.

anyone watch marcus brigstocke ? what a load of middle class cowardly garbage this man really is

what a load of twoddle , if you live & work in this great land and you earn a wage for youre work are you not profiting from youre circumstance ? mm , if you live and work in the uk did you not embark on this course of action as to acquire wealth that you lacked in youre own **** poor country ? mm , if you live and work in the uk did you come on the intention of finding a job as youre **** poor country cannot supply you with one ? mm , and like i said before if you are not happy with the uk laying claim to the rest of the worlds riches well go home easy really ! its called enteprise and global marketing , stocks n shares to which i lay claim to a few , so therefore i can afford through sheer determination to drive my range rover vogue and my girlfriend has a shiny new bmw m3 for xmas and be under no illussion my foreign pal if she was still in poland she would be working in some low paid **** poor job , & because she decided to get off her ass and do something about her situation she is where she is today through her sheer determination to change her future for the better ! she now work in the airline industry as a trainee commercial pilot she has quite away to go but she,s tenacious and very driven as am i and i believe you work hard , you reape the benefits of youre own circumstance , so no more **** poor twoddle please youre boring and obviously a geeko warrior or is it a new age hippie x

not the individual silly, if you really believe that the wealth of the entire british nation is only due to the the work done on the island then you can have all the money you desire, it wouldn't reduce your ignorance by an iota.

Look brother, you may have the trappings of wealth but it's becoming clearer and clearer you lay claim to precious little else.



^For a british owned corporation no doubt. But hey it's ok to pay people crap wages in the name of global marketing (i think you'll find you should have used a different term to better describe the model you promote but it's easy enough to figure out what you meant).


well then stop complaining if someone wants to "reape" the beneifits of their circumstance by creating a new circumstance.

This is so fun as you continually use your own logic to make one arguement but then continue on with it only to repeal your original assertions- yet you can't see it, tee hee.

Your story is touching but it lacks objectivity, sounds more like your broad's found herself a sponser, but now i'm using poor analytical skills and judging things on first blush-shame on me.

No sponsor just a hard working British guy on his way up the ladder , obviously all youre creative chat has got you F/all in the past and it aint getting you very far in youre future , go back to playing the lottery , keep dreaming and wishing for a better life , youre obviously hung up on the uk and its strengths as a global player in the ever increasing wealth dominated markets , what hell hole of a country are you from & i,ll probably be able to understand where youre anger comes from , youre not a country we,ve bombed back to the middle ages are you ? lol are you from a country like serbia where the women are butt ugly lol , or even a muslim state were in the past especially in the uk its against muslim law to gamble , but yet one of the biggest lottery winners i think of 18.4 million was a muslim , lets see did he hand that back - i doubt it , so please mate like i said youre boring i get youre point youre pissed at the uk for being one of the richest countries in the modern world but hey thats life sad act , and me i,m 100% brit and very proud of my countries achievements in the past 200 years and know if it had,nt of been for the scholars in this country the world we all live in today would be a lot bleaker .

yes because it's my long winded posts making sweeping accusations across a range of cultures that comes across as angry (that's an example of sarcasm-basically how people normally speak to you). Good luck with having money as your posts have shown you're unable to comprehend anything beyond that with a price tag. anyway you're last post actually dipped lower on the critical thinking scales than i'd ever thought possible; congratulations, you've dumbfounded me with such stupidity.

i can no longer bestowe upon you any gifts of intellect as it would only further be as pearls before swine.

au revoir mon petit ami disposé
bon chance pierre

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT FOREIGNERS ARE FLOCKING TO OUR COUNTRY? DISGUISING THEMSELVES IN CARS AND PAYING £10,000 TO BE SMUGGLED INTO THE COUNTRY? IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE A SOFT TOUCH. THEY HAVE A CHOICE OF MANY OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO "CLAIM ASYLUM" IN. BUT THEY CHOOSE TO COME TO SOFT BRITAIN WHERE THEY GET PUT BEFORE BRITISH PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE FOR A HOUSE AND GET THE FULL RANGE OF BENEFITS - ON US. IT SHOULD WORRY EVERYONE THAT BRITISH PEOPLE WILL BE THE ETHNIC MINORITY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN JUST THIRTY YEARS' TIME AND WE WILL BE LIVING UNDER MUSLIM SHARIA LAW. IS IT ANY WONDER HOUSES HAVE TO BE BUILT ON NOTORIOUS FLOODPLAINS WHEN ALL THESE FOREIGNERS ARE FLOODING IN? OUR POPULATION IS SET TO DOUBLE BY 2080. I'M VOTING FOR THE BNP.

Yeah, by 2080, the BNP may have drastically improved their support base, so they get 1/4 of the votes of a major party

Awh no, not another Rangers Fan

And why do you come and write It here ?

Sharia Law, I don't think so somehow. It's just paranoia and fear.

Yeah, you can get set up with a house-usually in a deprived and unsafe area- you don't think they'll put manual workers into middle-class residential areas, do you?The wages are no better than minimum wage, but migrants are prepared to do the work and then they discover how much help is available to migrant workers. In my opinion, E. European migrants deserve to get on, because they are prepared to do the naff jobs that the bone idle brits won't touch.Good luck to them, I say. Yes, I am another "scrounging get", because, although I have a degree in drama, I have had to claim disability for the last 6.5 years. The authorities can't find a job for a "spacker" who has had three operations in seven years.

That's a good point. I see blocks in Poland that look dingy and unsafe but there is relatively little crime there. If I saw the same in Scotland, I'd be looking over my shoulder quite often. Yeah, Poles have a reputation for stealing but that usually takes place at stations and not in large housing complexes. My fellow Scots are quite bad for stealing and fighting so Poles may lose some of the things they worked to get and the police aren't that likely to help them

Yawn, maybe then you could get your first job . . . cleaning out the toilets in your local mosque, for the minimum wage of course. As you will be an ethnic minority then you will automatically receive more benefits like a free house and lots of presents from the govt. (how ironic, dont you think?)

I doubt it, if they all talk as loud as you, no one would ever wonder you are minority...

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Forget the muslims, let's keep to the Poles. Many are flocking back to Poland now that a new govt is in place. Immigration is heading back towards decent levels. Try extending the thread by asking any members if they are an employer of Polish people and see if they are satisfied with what they do

Salam koshad!
Listen, have u seen british ppl in Poland, what they r doing there on their vacation? They drink more than Polish ppl can even imagine! They are acting like pigs, they **** on da fuckin sidewalks! BTW go back 2 ur country if u dont like the fact that POLISH PPL RULE ENGLAND!

Hey Guys!
Does somebody knows the statistics of polish immigration?
I need that for my assignment

a record ?

Nah. England is ruled by the Scots (Gordon is a moron), and the Royal family are German/Greek ancestry.

He's right. When did the Poles take over the country? I must have been asleep...and it were true, where would I go, since this is my home?

I'm not even gonna go there with defending my fellow countrymen's right to throw up in the streets of Krakow or wherever.. we Brits have been doing this since time began, so why should we stop now?

i dnt knw abwt the polish wrk ethic they have takin over the brothels

u lost to hitler and stalin we beat both of them if poland was a great place u wudnt all be coming here

we like a bit of banter bt to be serious england is a dump it has been for the last 20 years we always hearing abwt murders rapes etc i wil leave this stinkin place soon

You need to realize that there's a difference between an immigrant and an asylum seeker. If you're really worried about all these refugees coming in and taking over the UK you need not to worry anymore because only a small percentage of seekers get chosen for refugee status. The UK and other parts of Western Europe are hardly a soft touch as they ship people off to their country of origin (where they will likely be killed) in less than 'humane' ways. I'm studying Political Science at university and I wish I could link you to the full source (the journal article I'm talking about), but you'd need a subscription. Here's a link to the abstract and you can choose to buy the whole thing if you want to.
http://rac.sagepub.com/cgi/content/short/47/1/64
http://no-racism.net/literatur/22
no-racism also posted the intro : http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/april/ha000011.html


Just because some sensational newpaper is claiming that refugees and asylum seekers are taking over the world, doesn't mean its actually true. In fact, the way that most of them (asylum seekers) are treated by UK and Western Europe is nothing short of horrific.

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in your opinion no doubt. Having working in asylum centres in the UK I would have to disagree. There are two sides to everything, but personally I think that the UK is one of the more lenient countries when it comes to asylum seekers, too much so for our own good.

Wrong... in a large proportion of the failed applications, these people just have their benefits withdrawn and are forgotten about, they then go "underground" work illegally and are not returned to their own countries...the system is flawed completely.

I see that you live in Toronto, what business is it of yours what happens in "Europe"



They receive councelling which costs, they receive free medical, housing and benefits....and in Scotland they are entiled to free university places.....blimey thats horrific!



If the above were true then why do they try so hard to get to an Island, they have travelled across so many other EU countries, surely in that state of mind you would just want to be in a "safe" country...it is in the most part for economic reasons they travel here...because we are a soft touch!.

Because certain people make rules only to benefit themselves, and betray their own children and youths in exchange for all those desperate people who will say yes to low salary and long hours. Overall, it's all about cheap labour. They think it'll benefit them, while reality is that their own children will also get pushed off the markets in the not-so-distant future..

In the meanwhile, more and more young men and women get jobless, isolated, frustrated and labelled as ''the problem.'' Ofcourse, it's all their fault, because all those poor older people who made all those rules are having such a hard time making even more money than they already have..

But ofcourse, if we all decide to keep silent about such issues, and scream a little ''be more competitive!'' here and there the problem will solve itself right?

I don't think so.. I guess we'll see.

"In September 2004, British prime minister Tony Blair set a target
for the removal of failed applicants. [/quote]

And do you still believe in the tooth fairy?



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They just dont bother with A.S. they just come into the country and work and live illegally...or better still get into organised crime...

You keep quoting book references and one off instances if that makes you feel better...the UK has always (in the past) been welcoming to people who have fled their countries because of civil war or whatever reason, we have lots of Vietnamese and Bosnians who actually did flee their countries because their lives were in danger...not some African or Lithuanian that fancies a better standard of living..people abuse the system and they are over time ruining it for those who are legitimate...You have to remember how small this Island is and its pockets are not never ending...