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z_darius
  Nov 6, 07, 08:20  #181

An interesting article on the impact of Polish immigrants in the UK: URL


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Patrycja19
  Nov 6, 07, 08:32  #182

Quoting: ShelleyS
so you see, people living under the poverty line is high in the UK, but of course that's their fault because they were destined to be lazy poor brits!


its the same in the states.. the bad thing about that is even immigrants come over
and want to work and those with education will definately get in to higher payed jobs

we have alot of lazy People to, by choice.. who just love to rely on the govt. which
really doesnt hand it out anymore on that silver platter. they created work programs
for the lazy.. :)


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BubbaWoo
  Nov 6, 07, 08:34  #183

Quoting: z_darius
An interesting article on the impact of Polish immigrants in the UK


good article - thanks

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Macduff
  Nov 6, 07, 09:12  #184

Shelley.

Its good you are concered by our countrys worries (UK) but the world we live in you have to accept that we as a nation have lived traveld and imigated to the four courners of the globe.

If you like me can not afford the things that the Uk provide then do as others do and move else where the world is getting smaller and smaller and travel is so cheap so vote with your feet.

Do not judge other nationalitys(In the EU) who only wish to make the future of there children better than what theres have been.

I am not against what you are saying but please look at the big picture.

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ShelleyS
  Nov 6, 07, 09:19  #185

Quoting: Macduff
I am not against what you are saying but please look at the big picture.


thats exactly what Im doing, thats why I have my concerns about my country, doesnt mean I have a a "little Islander" attitude.

And Yes Z it was an interesting read, thanks.


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Macduff
  Nov 6, 07, 09:24  #186

Shelley never said you had a little Islander attitude, I in my clumbsy way am just asking you to look at this from more angles than just a British one.

from seeeing what you have wrote I truely believe you are a warm and kind person just expressing your concerns

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Patrycja19
  Nov 6, 07, 09:41  #187

Quoting: Macduff
the Uk


there should be concerns,, the amount of immigrants exceeds what was thought
and there is housing concerns, jobs concerns.. it isnt like the uk is one huge country
like the united states where people can be asorbed into the economy.. even
Ireland should be a big concern..

the process of immigration was supposed to be slow. I dont think people would
have even minded if it would have happened slower.

I dont blame the polish for wanting better, but they should be feeling the crunch as
well. it cant be good when so many go and the jobs are scarcer then ever due to
overloaded economy!


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Macduff
  Nov 6, 07, 09:49  #188

Patrycja

The thing is Jobs are not scarcer than before, just look at this forum Uk employers asking for more Polish people to work on farms,bars and industrial sites! all over the UK.

In Poland they are taking workers from Russia

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Liza
Edited by: Liza  Nov 6, 07, 11:09  #189

In the 1960s and 1970s there was huge amounts of immigration to Australia and New Zealand by Irish, English, Scottish and Welsh nationals, and it impacted on the salaries of Australians and New Zealanders. Those same countries also received large amounts of displaced persons after WWII (which is how most of my family ended up leaving Europe), and during the 70s and 80s, Polynesian Islanders also began chasing the opportunities in New Zealand, and to some extents, Australia. New Zealand is now host to the largest Polynesian city in the world (250,000 plus and counting), and there are now four times as many Niueans in New Zealand than there are in Niue. Both Australia and New Zealand have embraced the opportunities that migrant labour can bring, strengthening their work force, and now have some of the lowest unemployment rates in developed world maintaining strong economic growth. However they do place restrictions on benefits and social housing, in that migrants cannot claim for benefits and housing until they have been there for between two to five years; possibly that might be something Britain could look at?

A study published last week stated that 69% of British people believe that Polish employees work harder than British employees. On the flipside, they came last in a list of nationalities British people would like to spend a weekend with.
For many years, the world has been talking of a ‘global economy’, and now the global economy is coming to the UK, in the form of the EU worker.

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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Nov 6, 07, 12:37  #190

Quoting: rafik
it says "average" not "most people".

I know what 'average' means. But I don't think that 'doctors, engineers and managers' from Poland working in Britain will pull average wage of Polish workers up in these statistics, simply because there is too few of them.


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z_darius
  Nov 6, 07, 12:41  #191

Good news for UK nationals. Some Poles may be leaving soon and heading to Ireland: URL


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irishdeano
  Nov 6, 07, 12:51  #192

bring them into ireland good. and brillant news about microsoft building another centre here.


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Bartolome
  Nov 6, 07, 12:55  #193

Quoting: Zeze
word word word

Enough poles in the UK

send them home

now

Yes, send them home. And all the problems of the UK will dissapear on the next day.


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irishdeano
  Nov 6, 07, 12:58  #194

so then when the lazy uk people dont work they just use the northern ireland tax money. what did the polish ever do u?
they came to ur country and are building it bigger and bring money to ur goverment making the roads better making everything good for you's and you keep bad mouthing them


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z_darius
  Nov 6, 07, 12:58  #195

Quoting: Bartolome
And all the problems of the UK will dissapear on the next day.

Be realistic. It will take at least 4 days.


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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Nov 6, 07, 12:59  #196

Quoting: z_darius
Be realistic. It will take at least 4 days.

Ah, right, I didn't take into account weekend.


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szarlotka
  Nov 6, 07, 13:01  #197

Quoting: Bartolome
Ah, right, I didn't take into account weekend.


And don't forget our 'business lunches'. I would allow six days to be prudent. Plus contingency - call it a week.


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Grzegorz_
  Nov 6, 07, 13:01  #198

Quoting: Liza

A study published last week stated that 69% of British people believe that Polish employees work harder than British employees. On the flipside, they came last in a list of nationalities British people would like to spend a weekend with.


Source ?


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Bartolome
  Nov 6, 07, 13:02  #199

Quoting: szarlotka
And don't forget our 'business lunches'. I would allow six days to be prudent. Plus contingency - call it a week.

+ hangover (one day).


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szarlotka
  Nov 6, 07, 13:04  #200

Quoting: Bartolome
+ hangover (one day).


You're right - the picture is looking grim. Please stay Polish people


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irishdeano
  Nov 6, 07, 13:04  #201

i would agree that polish would work harder than most british and irish people


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Grzegorz_
  Nov 6, 07, 13:25  #202

Quoting: Bartolome
I already read what you wrote before.


I didn't. What was that ?


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anuska
  Nov 6, 07, 13:31  #203

well it wasnt my opinion it was my boyfriends and he said he will log in later and post it again......he said that it did **** him off that some many polish people are coming over here as it took him a year and half to get a job.......he now has a job and found out today that the company he works for has a factory in poland but he cant understand why employ polish people here? And the fact that we struggle as the wages dont stretch that far and we dont run away from problems............... there u go bartolome


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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Nov 6, 07, 13:31  #204

Quoting: Grzegorz_
I didn't. What was that ?

See above.


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Bartolome
  Nov 6, 07, 13:34  #205

Quoting: anuska
why employ polish people here?

Why ? Just not to shut the remaining factory and move it to e.g. China or India (or Poland). Here you go.


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Grzegorz_
  Nov 6, 07, 13:37  #206

Quoting: anuska
it took him a year and half to get a job


Wow. Now that's something to be proud of !


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anuska
  Nov 6, 07, 13:45  #207

yes do they employ english in the factory in poland what do u think???


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anuska
Edited by: anuska  Nov 6, 07, 13:47  #208

Quoting: Grzegorz_

Wow. Now that's something to be proud of !


well no its something to be pissed off about.....while we couldnt pay bills polish people where out in town getting pissed on the money that we could of spent on basic living and fighting so is that something to be proud of?


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Grzegorz_
  Nov 6, 07, 13:47  #209

Quoting: anuska
yes do they employ english in the factory in poland what do u think???


English may work legally in any other EU country.


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osiol
  Nov 6, 07, 13:49  #210

If anyone finds it hard to get a job, that is not the end of it.
Do something you don't expect you'd like to do - I did.
Or perhaps find something no-one else is doing that there might be a market for and set up a small business.
Maybe education or training is the answer.
Move to another town, another country - go where the work is.
We all have to make sacrifices in life.


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