Polish immigration in UK

There are similarities between ET and immigrants:

ET only came for a short visit but due to circumstances had to stay longer.

Poor English language skills.

Constantly blathering on about wanting to go home but never doing anything about it.

Like most immigrants he was short and could mend things.

well what do you do liza ? you work in an office of some sort, surely there must have been someone out there who can do what you can, yes i don't have anything wrong with people coming here i'm not 100% against immigration but when it's keeping our own peoples wages down and making it harder for people here to gain work because of the poles then a lot of people are talking about it , especially here in the merseyside area they will put anyone out of work it seems by living on the bare minimum with hoards of them in little houses , this nonsense about them being better workers is that NONSENSE what it is is they can be manipulated and told to work nights ,weekends for no extra cash whereas the british worker always had rights and unions , now these poles have destroyed a lot of our unions and working conditions , i even read an article where it said poles are angry about bulgarians coming and romanians because it could take work away from them how ironic is that ? it's only a matter of time before something goes down i feel the tension everyday there is big fights between english and poles in liverpool but the media are trying to keep it down as much as they can incase riots start breaking out, i can say this i can see many poles ending up getting hurt if this goes on

i got my sources from migrationwatch uk, the politicians will lie because they made a complete disaster with many talking about britain coming out of the EU , even the primeminister has said british jobs for british people , plus at least 70% of poles send money back and don't use it in our economy benefiting nobody here, THEY WILL WORK FOR NOTHING people here getting notices to say they are being finished the next day hoards of dirty eastern europeans doing jobs like scabs for half the pay ,now that should never be allowed , i'm in the building trade as a fully qualified electrician and i know i can do the job better than any poles coming here most of them don't even have 16th edition the system in poland is not as advanced as ours they don't even have a proper earthing system , so to be told that there better than us is an absolute insult ! they will try and put brits out of work and destroy any working rights we once had

If you don't like the political situation in the UK, why are you bothering with a forum devoted to Polish language and culture?

With regard to this quote. Are any Polish people employed as site-foreman or gaffer ?

Many people are better than you.

Yeah, on the site I'm working now there are some Polish engineers.

Do they choose to hire Brits or Poles ? Or is it still in the hands of the Site Foreman /Site Agent ?

I realize your answer could start a troll war, but I would like to know.

Liza you have got to be the boring person on this site(apart from me)....Feel free to go back to New Zealand....i'm sure the UK economy won't suffer....and take take your husband with you!

Actually, Poles and trade unions in the UK are pretty cuddly. You need to get informed.

Some things for you to read:
With the help of Polish members, the union managed to organise a 24-hour stoppage of the transportation of medical items in protest at a management decision to transfer a £3.5–£4 billion, 1.6 billion contract from the UK to Germany.. Source: URL

or this:
Amicus launches initiative for Polish workers: URL

In short, Poles may be actually saving trade unions in your country.

The destruction of trade unions.

Causes: a combination of the Tories under Thatcher and the trade unions themselves.

Apparently not.. they advertised through the UK and EU for three months without success, and its well above minimum wage.


There are plenty of nationalities that live multiple occupants to a house, not just the Poles, and given that there wasn't a minimum wage in the UK until 1998, I struggle to understand how you can blame the Poles for the level of pay.


Rightly or wrongly, the British worker has an established worldwide reputation as being shirkers, and the Poles have one as being diligent hardworkers. I don't feel that the British deserve a shirker reputation, as most do actually work well enough, but the Poles in my experience do work very hard. For the majority of the Poles, they want to earn money, and will go where the work is, including weekends and evenings.
As for the trade unions, you have Margaret Thatcher to blame for that, and as you may have seen recently in the media, she is now cosying up to Gordon Brown, so I can't see any political party supporting the unions in the future.


Recently during the postal strike in Liverpool, Royal Mail tried to bring on extra Polish workers to do the work being done by the strikers, but the ringleader of the Polish crew caught on very quickly to what Royal Mail were doing, whistled to his mates, and off they went to the pub, shaking hands with the strikers on the way.
I also know that support crew in our offices, who are mainly Polish, do belong to a union, because every once and a while we get a sign up saying 'Union Meeting', (although I admit I don't know which one).


Migration Watch is anti migration, so don't you think that what they publish is likely to be skewed?

Given that you were posting that at 10.45pm on a Friday night, I'd say that marks you out as boring where as I was out having a good time :-)

yes maybe liza but migration watch uk are saying it how it is, hoards and hoards of poles into an area is no good for no one it doesn't take genius to work that out , minimum wage came in in 1998 but i'm telling you even before minimum wage people earned a better rate than they do now , the poles have created a situation where anyone looking for work will only be given the bare minimum as they just threaten workforces that they will get eastern europeans to replace workers who just might want that little bit more ,that option should never be given to anyone to choose from 28 countries that's insane we should have a point system like australia and the united states not allow unlimited peasants into your own land , people here have commitments mortgages etc they can't have their wages kept down by immigrant labour

... forum.

There are an estimated 20 million illegals in the US. A vast majority are Mexicans, of whom... a vast majority are peasants working American farms.

If you have a mortgage to pay, don't you just appreciate a plumber or electrician who comes round to not cost you too much?

Now Leonardo, have you got some other forums to vomit your bile into? Remember there are people from all over the place here, not just Poles. And if you want to find a real peasant, I'd suggest you look no further than...

Did you manage to bore everyone to death with your facts and figures?

What complete rubbish.....World wide reputation with who?......From a Colonial with a chip on her shoulder and an inferiority complex maybe!!....Why didn't you stay in NZ rather than come to work in the UK?.......Could it be because ''Shirker Britain'' has a world wide reputaion for being more.... ''Dynamic Britain''....Or the ''Promised Land'' as some of your Polish friends call us. Anyway i thought you worked in Finance in the City of London earning ''the top 5% pay bracket etc''.....but now you work for the Post Office right?

- His own mirror (provided he's got any).

you can spot a pole from a dame mile away they all dress the same walk round in packs wear hoodis whith kurva written on them have greasy hair speak broken english as for my english and wha can ya undastan diz ya idot iy type da wey i talk wit a accent got a reply out you dident i! i would say that for a person that speaks and writes english once in a blue moon its great not that its my first language or i need it to get by its just conveniant saves me takeing some jackass translator whith me.


why dont you look at stastics since 92% of britian is white its you bums that are liveing of the system whats wrong the truth hurts lossing your jobs to pakistani indians africans poles is not?



why do you idiots lo class common folk always have to bring religion into every argument is it becuse you envy what we have made like bigger hoses all over the country we ouwn the multimillion dollar buisnesses on of the richest man in the uk is a muslim and you peaople work for him one way or another ops and i left out alfyed and hiz multi billion dollar empire you smuck even your princess went out whith a muslim becuse she thoght less of the buracratic britise high nosed fools what industry do's britan actually own i recall rover being the last dident china by it out rolls royce went to the germans bt moved to india becuse it couldent afford to pay its workers in england any more in return india started selling tata cars all over europe including england

ha ha ha that was a joke right!

hear hear a shout for ajgraham

- Please, prove that any of Liza's 'Polish friends' call you and your 'us' - the 'Promised Land.' Boy, oh boy! :)

Well, you're asking Liza why she didn't stay in NZ and came to work in the UK. Should she ask equally politely why so many British come to settle in NZ...?

You seem to have a contempt for Liza because she allegedly works for or in a post office. You yourself are, as I understand, a lorry driver. So why this contempt for post office employees? You mean lorry drivers are superior to post folks...? :)

Now, you've been bragging about the power of British economy and you seem to try to speak on behalf of British economy and chase foreign workers out of Britain on behalf of British economy. But being a mere lorry driver, what great contribution do you have to the power of British economy? How many jobs have you created? Unlike you, the Brits who really contribute to British economy have a demand for foreign, e.g. Polish, workers. The proof of this seems to be the scores of British job ads in Poland.

So, it seems to me, if British employers have a high demand for foreign workers, and if there are many foreign workers in Britain, and if the British economy is powerful, then the foreign workers contribute greatly to British economy, perhaps are even one of the main pillars, not to say the main pillar, of it.... :)

By the way, I suspect that even if you created jobs and, hehe, wanted to hire Poles, in the long run no Polish person would want to work for you.

ha ha ha thise post has turned into a funfair the promised land i think shes a undercover mossad agent

equally hiarlios as trucker tom left a skid mark on her underwear

- One can find (diminishing and ridiculing) similarities between other things as well.

E.g. Kilkline and the chamber pot.

In the theory of propaganda they call it 'association,' don't they?

Its pointless arguing with the likes of you mate......You have a habit of misunderstanding everything anyone writes on PF.

- What specifically have I misunderstood in your post? Please, enlighten the ignorant Puzzler, please.



- Is it an excuse to take to your heels? Got cornered by Puzzler, so in order to save face you basically say that Puzzler is stupid and you won't talk to him?

What a bright truckie you are.

Do you drive as adroitly as you debate? Then got save England, and especially Crewe, Chesire.
:)

Where is that ? Maybe I will move there.

- Should be: then God save England

Well you said it!!



No it doesn't mean any of the above......it just means i can't be assed arguing with an ignorant t*at like you!!