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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 10:19  #301

yep i am.. :)

 
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z_darius
  Mar 17, 08, 10:23  #302

sw33t20 wrote:
yep i am.. :)

How many husbands are you allowed to have?

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 10:26  #303

just the1..and thank god 4 that! :) dyu wana kno y im allowed allowed one???

 
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AvJoeUK [Guest]
Edited by: AvJoeUK  Mar 17, 08, 10:38  #304

why oh why :)

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 10:41  #305

oh i knew that wud b the next question..lol..well coz say if i had 4 husbands n i slept with all of dem n then i got pregnant i wudnt kno hu the father was..n so 2 avoid conflict between husbands n families etc women are only allowed 1 husband but a man is allowed 4 wives.. :)

 
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AvJoeUK [Guest]
  Mar 17, 08, 10:51  #306

sw33t20 wrote:
i slept with all of dem n then i got pregnant i wudnt kno hu the father was.


Thats what daytime tv shows are for!

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 17, 08, 10:53  #307

sw33t20 wrote:
oh i knew that wud b the next question..lol..well coz say if i had 4 husbands n i slept with all of dem n then i got pregnant i wudnt kno hu the father was..n so 2 avoid conflict between husbands n families etc women are only allowed 1 husband but a man is allowed 4 wives.. :)



Assalaam Alaikum,
Can I ask you a question? Do you follow your religion by the book? I know someone that calls himself muslim and strangely enough he came with me on a night out to get drunk and pick up women yet he still prayed. There seems to be a few people that do this.

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 11:01  #308

walaikum salaam :)

im not gona lie n say im a devout muslim coz no im not..n 2 b honest i dont think the majority of the younger generation do follow islam by the book..there are so many things that as a muslim we are not allowed to do..eg drinking alcohol and goin clubbing etc..and as uv stated correctly Arise_St_George many people still do this..

i dont go clubbin nor do i drink or sleep around etc and thats coz there are so many other things that i do which are against my religion id like to keep a limit on things.. i mean i dont even like goin clubbin (n yes iv bin 1ce so i do kno wat its like)..

 
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Ranj
  Mar 17, 08, 11:02  #309

sw33t20 wrote:
well coz say if i had 4 husbands n i slept with all of dem n then i got pregnant i wudnt kno hu the father was..n so 2 avoid conflict between husbands n families etc women are only allowed 1 husband but a man is allowed 4 wives.. :)

Well if it's presumed that you would treat each husband the same (as is the case with 4 wives) why would it matter who fathered the child? They would all share in the responsibility of raising the child.

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 11:05  #310

hmmm......well wen the child grows up im sure he/she wud like to kno he their proper father is and that wudnt be possible..dus that make sense??? 2share responsibilty of the child when they are younger is easier tahn wen the child has grown up and wants 2 know which 1 of them 4 men is their father!!!

 
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Daisy
  Mar 17, 08, 11:07  #311

It's a wise child that knows his own father

 
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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 17, 08, 11:11  #312

sw33t20 wrote:
hmmm......well wen the child grows up im sure he/she wud like to kno he their proper father is and that wudnt be possible..dus that make sense??? 2share responsibilty of the child when they are younger is easier tahn wen the child has grown up and wants 2 know which 1 of them 4 men is their father!!!


I always thought it had something to do with the income. Men are supposed to be the ones that go out and work and feed their wive(s) and children whereas the women are supposed to stay at home and look after the house and family. I assumed that's why muslim men had the option of more than one wife and women only having the option of 1 husband.

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 11:17  #313

Arise_St_George wrote:
whereas the women are supposed to stay at home and look after the house and family.



this is not always true..women ARE allowed to go out and work.. but i know where ur coming from..ur arguemnet makes sense..it could be a mixture of these things..

 
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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 17, 08, 11:24  #314

sw33t20 wrote:

this is not always true..women ARE allowed to go out and work.. but i know where ur coming from..ur arguemnet makes sense..it could be a mixture of these things..


In the West this is obviously different. Muslim women do go out and work and earn a wage but in alot of muslim countries women are asked to stay at home to look after the houses and family. The lifestyle is totally different in the West.

Anyway, welcome to the forum :)

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 11:27  #315

i thnk its a stereotypical view coz im sure i read sumwer that women in like afghanistan go out 2 work but in an all female place of work..dont quote me on it tho.. lol..

and thanks..i only joined this afternoon n i feel like i know ppl already..hehe

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 17, 08, 11:44  #316

sw33t20 wrote:
i thnk its a stereotypical view coz im sure i read sumwer that women in like afghanistan go out 2 work but in an all female place of work..dont quote me on it tho.. lol..

and thanks..i only joined this afternoon n i feel like i know ppl already..hehe


It's true that women are allowed to work and earn a living but the Hadith encourages women to stay at home

Your Prophet said to some women, "Those of you who stay at home will gain the action (merit) of the Mujahideen (those who strive in the path of Allah)"

Anyway, you keepout of those "love threads." You be a good girl now!

 
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SouthOfDaThames
  Mar 17, 08, 11:52  #317

sw33t20 wrote:
and thanks..i only joined this afternoon n i feel like i know ppl already..hehe


I know EXACTLY what you mean. You've made only 13 posts, but it's clear that you weren't *really* looking for advice on Polish learning disabled people, you're just looking for another way of spreading your Islamic agenda.

Well, it's not wanted here!

I'm fed up of hearing how "offended" Muslims get about everything - well I'm offended by the Qur'an claiming that Jesus was "only" a prophet!!!!

 
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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 17, 08, 11:54  #318

SouthOfDaThames wrote:
I'm fed up of hearing how "offended" Muslims get about everything - well I'm offended by the Qur'an claiming that Jesus was "only" a prophet!!!!


I believe Jesus was ONLY a prophet. Jehovas Witnesses believe this too. Bloody hell give the girl a break...

 
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SouthOfDaThames
  Mar 17, 08, 11:57  #319

Arise_St_George wrote:
I believe Jesus was ONLY a prophet. Jehovas Witnesses believe this too. Bloody hell give the girl a break...


Like I'm going to agree with a group who allow their children to bleed to death in God's name!!!!

Anyway, I guess she's your type, so **** off and go and chat to her on MSN or something u doughnut.

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 17, 08, 12:00  #320

SouthOfDaThames wrote:
Like I'm going to agree with a group who allow their children to bleed to death in God's name!!!!

Anyway, I guess she's your type, so **** off and go and chat to her on MSN or something u doughnut.


How old are you? You're a kid aren't you. A schoolboy. A group that allows their children to bleed to death? What are you on lol?

 
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SouthOfDaThames
  Mar 17, 08, 12:10  #321

Arise_St_George wrote:
A group that allows their children to bleed to death? What are you on lol?


That response proves that you are the idiot, not me.

Anyway, I'm bored with feeding the trolls.

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 17, 08, 12:18  #322

SouthOfDaThames wrote:
That response proves that you are the idiot, not me.

Anyway, I'm bored with feeding the trolls.


Huh? You don't make any sense.

Ok then goodnight, sweetdreams.

 
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z_darius
Edited by: z_darius  Mar 17, 08, 13:14  #323

sw33t20 wrote:
i wudnt kno hu the father was..n so 2 avoid conflict between husbands n families etc women are only allowed 1 husband but a man is allowed 4 wives

It's a pity that family members are so violent that legitimate marital arrangements might cause issues. But I am relieved to see that the peaceful religion of Islam prevents such conflicts at all cost, huh ;)

Sneaky, but surely effective.

 
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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 17, 08, 13:21  #324

I find it funny Islam see Jesus as a prophet yet they ignore all his teachings. Even as you said Arise that those phrases were taking out of context, either way I dont remember Jesus ever spreading a message like that. War or no war.

Jesus says turn the other cheek and Muhammed say spread the faith by the sword. A little bit of a contradiction here.... I dont understand how Islam agrees with Jesus and Muhammed at the same time if they both spread opposite messages.

Plus Islam when moderate is acceptable but the truth is that in the majority of the middle east that it is not.

 
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z_darius
  Mar 17, 08, 13:23  #325

matthias wrote:
I find it funny Islam see ...

I have to admit I see very little funny about Islam

 
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matthias
  Mar 17, 08, 13:26  #326

Well Dariuz nobody is asking you to laugh.

 
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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 17, 08, 13:33  #327

matthias wrote:
I find it funny Islam see Jesus as a prophet yet they ignore all his teachings. Even as you said Arise that those phrases were taking out of context, either way I dont remember Jesus ever spreading a message like that. War or no war.

Jesus says turn the other cheek and Muhammed say spread the faith by the sword. A little bit of a contradiction here.... I dont understand how Islam agree with Jesus and Muhammed at the same time if they both spread opposite messages.

Plus Islam when moderate is acceptable but the truth is that in the majority of the middle east that it is not.


They see Muhammed as a Prophet.
Contradiction? They're two different religions. Each can be taken out of context. You read those passages from the Quran and assume that it spreads hatred and violence. This is exactly how muslim extremists are easily brainwashed.

Let me quote something from the bible;

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)

Does that not sound like a message of hatred to you? It's easy to misinterpret both the bible and the Quran. What you should worry about are the dumbasses that misinterpret them to justify their hatred and violence against non-muslims. It isn't the Quran to blame. It's the muslim extremists.

 
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matthias
  Mar 17, 08, 13:46  #328

Arise_St_George wrote:
Contradiction? They're two different religions.


Yes understandable, but Jesus is seen as a prophet in Islam. So obviously they accept his teachings. Once again his teachings are in complete opposite to Muhammed. Your explanation is useless.

Arise_St_George wrote:
Does that not sound like a message of hatred to you? It's easy to misinterpret both the bible and the Quran. What you should worry about are the dumbasses that misinterpret them to justify their hatred and violence against non-muslims. It isn't the Quran to blame. It's the muslim extremists.


unfortunately the dumba*ses are the muslims..... Christians outgrew this dumba*sness

Arise_St_George wrote:
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)


Either way that quote is not telling us to kill. It tells us the purpose of Jesus coming here....... Muhammed's message was to tell the people to kill.....

 
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z_darius
  Mar 17, 08, 13:49  #329

matthias wrote:

Either way that quote is not telling us to kill.

It doesn't mention the word kill but it mentions the word sword. Do you think the sword was to be used as a toothpick?

 
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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 17, 08, 13:52  #330

z_darius wrote:
It doesn't mention the word kill but it mentions the word sword. Do you think the sword was to be used as a toothpick?


can't you read English. It's Jesus talking and telling us why he's here or more specifically what will occur. Did Jesus say go pick up a sword? the answer is no to that question.

 
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