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F15guy
  Mar 10, 08, 18:33  #271

If you are Muslim and you wish to withdraw, you can't. If you do, you're an apostate and subject to death.

In Egypt, e.g. Judaism and Christianity are recognized religions. Hindus, Buddists, Shintoist, Wiccan, aethists, etc. have no rights. The Egyptian Supreme Court ruled that one must select Muslim, Jew or Christian as one's religious identity.

 
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Filios1
  Mar 10, 08, 18:39  #272

F15guy wrote:
Wiccan


These people shouldn't have rights, anyway...

 
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tornado2007
  Mar 10, 08, 18:41  #273

yet more talk of muslims, is this MF now or still PF i'm confused, so much muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslimmuslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim muslim. When will it all end and we can get back to normal without talking about this dam, way of life or religion

 
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F15guy
  Mar 10, 08, 18:42  #274

After we take away the rights of the Wiccans, who's next?

 
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RJ_cdn
  Mar 10, 08, 18:46  #275

tornado2007 wrote:
, is this MF now or still PF

Possible explanation for the layout change?

 
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Filios1
  Mar 10, 08, 18:47  #276

F15guy wrote:
After we take away the rights of the Wiccans, who's next?


Why do you say that? Wiccans aren't even a proper religion. Its some kind of cult that worships witchcraft and evil. They should all get thrown onto an island, anyway.
They are laughable.

 
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shopgirl
  Mar 10, 08, 21:20  #277

Filios1 wrote:
Why do you say that? Wiccans aren't even a proper religion. Its some kind of cult that worships witchcraft and evil. They should all get thrown onto an island, anyway.

That's not true....Wicca is a religion just like any other.
Filios, don't make me put a hex on you! hehe ;)

 
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Filios1
  Mar 10, 08, 21:42  #278

shopgirl wrote:
Filios, don't make me put a hex on you! hehe ;)


Oh no! : (

shopgirl wrote:
That's not true....Wicca is a religion just like any other.


hmm...

 
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shopgirl
  Mar 10, 08, 22:18  #279

Nah...you're safe......for now! hee hee
*grins*

But I will keep an eye on you....or two.

 
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F15guy
  Mar 13, 08, 10:57  #280

Filios1 wrote: Wiccans aren't even a proper religion.


Define "proper." I am certain many, many Romans said, "Christianity is not a proper religion."

The "only true" religion is non-existent. We each have our thoughts, ideas and philophies as to what is right. Everybody has the right to go to hell his own way.

We don't have the right to force our beliefs on other people.

 
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z_darius
  Mar 13, 08, 11:00  #281

F15guy wrote:
Define "proper." I am certain many, many Romans said, "Christianity is not a proper religion."

According to judeo-christian angle of view only their religions are proper, so by definition they regard others as improper. Strangley, even within the judeo-christian stream there are some major and minor differences in their understanding of the scriptures so in the end all of them are condemned to hell by sheer mutual exclusion of the "truths" declared by the others.

 
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ShelleyS
  Mar 13, 08, 11:01  #282

Wiccans, Drewids...still practiced in many parts of England festivals take place to cellebrate these things that are part of English culture..they were here before the catholics :)

 
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Patrycja19
  Mar 13, 08, 11:24  #283

ShelleyS wrote:
Wiccans, Drewids...still practiced in many parts of England festivals


we have practicing wiccans too. all over the states..

 
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snoke31
  Mar 13, 08, 11:30  #284

for this man or any one thinking to convert to be muslim for agirl or man
did you read this in quran?

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”
Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you

i hope if ppl can think well ?

 
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matthias
  Mar 13, 08, 11:34  #285

snoke31 wrote:
i hope if ppl can think well ?


lol, thanks for that..... Im going to copy this if you dont mind and use it against some other fu*kers who defend terrorists.... My favorite is "there just defending themselves...."

 
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snoke31
  Mar 13, 08, 11:37  #286

with my pleasure, you can copy it and if you want more contact me i will feed you, let ppl know where is the true,
thats enough for freak smile, and talking about silly peace

 
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Patrycja19
  Mar 13, 08, 12:04  #287

matthias wrote:
lol, thanks for that..... Im going to copy this if you dont mind and use it against some other fu*kers who defend terrorists.... My favorite is "there just defending themselves...."


yeah.. good idea.. enlightening information :)

 
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matthias
  Mar 13, 08, 12:13  #288

snoke31 wrote:
if you want more contact me i will feed you, let ppl know where is the true,


thanks, definately, feel free to send stuff over, Just PM me.......

 
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F15guy
  Mar 13, 08, 14:02  #289

Try this one for a catchy beat with it.

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Thanks to another forum member whose name I lost.

 
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bajka
Edited by: bajka  Mar 13, 08, 14:48  #290

More disgrace from the muslim race, talking with an open minded muslim today who drinks like its going out of fashion, i found that the myth of muslims having 4 wives isn't what it cracks up to be.

they can only have another wife if the first one is either ill, infertile, or cannot serve his master in the way he wishes....... so in those cases they can have the extra one or two misses if they wish, as long as they treat each of them equally..... now that ain't gonna happen is it...... he's hardly gonna poke the sick one, the infertile one sounds like fun but my favourite is the one that's rebelled.

So from the discussion we came up with the idea, why not divorce and just have 1 wife.

Well, no thats not good enough apparently, its a greed thing ! They like to F*ck like monkeys !

sorry monkeys to have to compare you too such a dumb species ! Muslims !

 
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matthias
  Mar 13, 08, 15:31  #291

Attacks on Christians in Iraq.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7295145.stm

 
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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 13, 08, 16:10  #292

Which makes it all the more important to create a clear separation between standard Muslims and fundamentalists/extremists. Furthermore, to highlight the reconstruction efforts in Iraq and how dialogue has taken over for the good of the international community. As for Poland, it really has virtually nothing in common with Islam. The Poles are white Catholics with little interest in the Koran.

Ask a Pole what he thinks about the Koran and he thinks u r talking about the people in the country due west of Japan, lol.

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 16, 08, 09:54  #293

snoke31 wrote:

for this man or any one thinking to convert to be muslim for agirl or man
did you read this in quran?

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”
Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you

i hope if ppl can think well ?


You can't copy and paste ONE sentence from each verse of the Koran. You need to read what it says before and after. It's like reading a story.

It's not Islam that I worry about. It's the muslims themselves.

 
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matthias
  Mar 16, 08, 15:21  #294

Arise_St_George wrote:
You can't copy and paste ONE sentence from each verse of the Koran. You need to read what it says before and after. It's like reading a story.

It's not Islam that I worry about. It's the muslims themselves.


Even though you make a good point.... tell me what sentance could go before or after to make those sentances sound less violent... Unless it says in the Quoron this next sentance is a joke, it doesnt matter......

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 16, 08, 15:28  #295

matthias wrote:
Even though you make a good point.... tell me what sentance could go before or after to make those sentances sound less violent... Unless it says in the Quoron this next sentance is a joke, it doesnt matter......


Those extracts that were quoted was in reference to the Holy Wars. Ie; the crusaders. The Koran states that they should fight to protect themselves and that they should "slay the enemy." It also states if the muslims capture the enemy then rather than kill them they should ask them to repent, to convert to Islam. If they do the enemy agrees to it then the muslims let them return back to their own countries a free man. It happened in the days of wars with muslims. They give the enemy a chance and if they accept it then they are given all the protection they need to return home. If they don't accept the offer then the enemy is killed.

 
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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 16, 08, 15:42  #296

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Doesn't explain this one.... I know for a fact some Christians in Iraq are forced by terrorists to pay a tax or they will be killed.... Article briefty mentions religious tax

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iraq15mar15,1, 7044844.story

However if what you say is right it does explain some of the others..... I would need to see the whole passage for myself...

 
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Arise_St_George
  Mar 16, 08, 15:53  #297

matthias wrote:

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Doesn't explain this one.... I know for a fact some Christians in Iraq are forced by terrorists to pay a tax or they will be killed.... I can find the article for you if need be....

However if what you say is right it does explain the others..... I would need to see the whole passage for myself...


Again that extract from the Quran 9:29 may have something that you should know so I'd read the full verse. I'm not a muslim so I don't know too much about the Quran. Subscribe to a muslim forum and I'm sure they'll have an answer for you.

Regarding Christians having to be paid tax or they'd be killed, as I mentioned before it's the muslims themselves that you should worry about and not the religion. In some muslim countries female circumcision is carried out despite it being a sin. In Saudi Arabia they have one of the worst human rights records. If you asked ANY muslim, even a devout muslim whether a true Islamic state actually exists they will say no. The likes of Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia manipulate the Quran. Women aren't even allowed to drive a car in Saudi Arabia. That isn't Islam yet they're run under Sharia Law.

 
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matthias
  Mar 16, 08, 16:23  #298

Arise_St_George wrote:
Again that extract from the Quran 9:29 may have something that you should know so I'd read the full verse. I'm not a muslim so I don't know too much about the Quran. Subscribe to a muslim forum and I'm sure they'll have an answer for you


I would but the information would be biased........ I am going to research this on my own.

Arise_St_George wrote:
Regarding Christians having to be paid tax or they'd be killed, as I mentioned before it's the muslims themselves that you should worry about and not the religion.


true, religion is a tool like a hammer, it can be used to build a house or destroy a house.

 
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sw33t20
  Mar 17, 08, 09:52  #299

ohmygod!! wat is goin on here??? the qoutes from the quran cannot be used on their own..they are all out of context!!! yes thats wat it sez in the Quran but it also says that muslims should not go 2 war unless war is declared on islam bu others!!! r u trying 2 tell me that if someone decided 2 have a fight with you u wud just stand there and get battered???!!! no u bloody well wudnt!!!

and the 4 wives thng..well in islam yes u are allowed 4 wives..n not necessarily if the 1st wife is sick..HOWEVER, the 1st wife should agree 4 her husband 2 have another wife and he should spend the same amount of money,time etc with all of his wives. so that they are all treated equally.

i sooo understand where you guys are coming from about the whole terrorist thng and families killing daughters etc but not all muslims are like that..uv jus read stories of the minorities..these are stories of a few muslims out of around 1.1-1.8 billion muslims around the world..!

 
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Arise_St_George
Edited by: Arise_St_George  Mar 17, 08, 10:01  #300

matthias wrote:

I would but the information would be biased........ I am going to research this on my own.


You'd get the most accurate answer from reading that extract from the Quran itself.

sw33t20 wrote:
ohmygod!! wat is goin on here??? the qoutes from the quran cannot be used on their own..they are all out of context!!! yes thats wat it sez in the Quran but it also says that muslims should not go 2 war unless war is declared on islam bu others!!! r u trying 2 tell me that if someone decided 2 have a fight with you u wud just stand there and get battered???!!! no u bloody well wudnt!!!

and the 4 wives thng..well in islam yes u are allowed 4 wives..n not necessarily if the 1st wife is sick..HOWEVER, the 1st wife should agree 4 her husband 2 have another wife and he should spend the same amount of money,time etc with all of his wives. so that they are all treated equally.

i sooo understand where you guys are coming from about the whole terrorist thng and families killing daughters etc but not all muslims are like that..uv jus read stories of the minorities..these are stories of a few muslims out of around 1.1-1.8 billion muslims around the world..!


Are you a muslim chick?

 
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