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Matyjasz
  Apr 17, 08, 01:06  #61

isthatu2:
???are you denying that centuries ago Poland expanded eastwards???



I'm denying that Poland conquered Lithuania centuries ago, because it didn't. There was a union between those two countries you know. :)


Are all Scots so emotional about history? :)

 
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isthatu2
  Apr 17, 08, 07:36  #62

there was another "union" a few years ago...soviet...:)

 
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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Apr 17, 08, 13:42  #63

Not all Scots are so emotional about history at all. Contrary to what many people think, there are still many poor people in Scotland. Such people think more about how to put clothes on backs and feed hungry mouths. These people don't have the luxury of dwelling on history.

 
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isthatu2
  Apr 17, 08, 14:17  #64

Matyjasz:
Are all Scots so emotional about history? :)

Pasionate maybe closer to it than emotional :) but seanus has a good point.

 
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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Apr 17, 08, 15:32  #65

Thx bro, we need to think practicalities sometimes. I've met a couple of Japanese folk here, they seem to like it.

 
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Matyjasz
  Apr 18, 08, 00:33  #66

isthatu2:
there was another "union" a few years ago...soviet...:)



Yes, there was, still those two unions differ a little. Especially in terms of the willingness to access those unions. :)

 
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PeterCpt
Edited by: PeterCpt  May 11, 08, 20:00  #67

isthatu2:
The british soldiers who fought against the germans dont tend to hold grudges,in fact,just last week there was a reunion of British bomber crews with a group of german night fighter pilots. To this day,any British former soldier who saw what the Japanese issen goren did in the far east will have absolutly nothing to do with Japan or the japanese people.


I think it's more of a racial issue. Let's face it for all the pro-Japanese BS on this forum, an Asian person in homogenous Poland is till often frowned upon, if not openly then in secret, and the same goes in Japan where gaijin have a very hard time living - I'm not talking tourism here, I'm talking about a more permanent residence.

I know US WW2 vets who despise German soldiers too to this day, I even remember one CNN interview where
a US commander was disgusted that Germans were allowed to partake in D-Day
celebrations. As for the British pilots, I wonder if they salute the same guys who dropped bombs on British cities too? Eh? Like I also said, Germans and Brits come from a similar ethnic/language group, and had common enemies before - French.
The Japanese are seen as eastern and inherently evil, they're not Christian (mostly) after all, even though the second A-Bomb was dropped on Nagasaki a predominantly Christian city in Japan.

There is also the matter of Japan being heck of a further distance away than the distance between the UK and Germany.

Japanese forces were cruel in Asia but this cruelty is far less substantial compared to the 'civilised' (yeah, right) wholesale industrialised slaughter of civilians and POW's
by Germany - an European country. As more facts come to light we see that ordinary Wehrmacht was responsible for mass atrocities not just units of the SS.
You could probably compare Japanese units to the SA while the Germans were
their proud SS.

I say all this as a Polish expat who's in love with and dating a (Catholic
) Japanese girl and also as someone with a good few close Japanese friends.
One of whom who's grandmother is Catholic and who still loves John Paul II, although he is not Catholic himself, still resents the A-bombs saying that they would never have been dropped on German (caucasian) cities.

 
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