Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

Regarding comments about the state of Israel as some sort of a nationalistic bastion and military force which bravely resists bloodthirsty Arabs, I believe that this is really unacceptable. Foundation of their success to do anything in that part of the World spans on help of large scope by Washington and London. Aside that never was this help direct military involvement of USA or Britain. They received weapons, equipment, finance, counterintelligence assistance, that is everything which they needed to overwhelm surrounding countries. From where did Israel get the atomic bomb? Who do you think gave that to them, and who at all tolerates that one country which is as someone said, nationalistic, and which is in a war with all of its neighbors has such dangerous armaments? Of course America. The very same America which that same right is denying to one Iran, even though that Iran in the last few decades did not lead no war, except for the one long ago against Iraq.

GUYS CHECK THIS OUT....10,000 Israeli Jews sitting in Israel are going to start claming Polish Citizenship and more imporatntly Polish land.....

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PLEASE WAKE UP AND PROTEST AGAINST THIS.....forgive my ignorance (i travel a lot) but did anybody hear of this bill in the major news?

None Jews are defending us from none hordes from the East, because they are in fact key representatives of those hordes. They are actually that from which they are supposedly defending us from. Muslim threat is definitely overforced precisely through Zionist politics and the politics of their Western servants. That which was previously mentioned of Muslims, their fanaticism and devotion to their religion and nation, in us creates only a positive picture about Muslims, and not of some supposed Jewish protectors. And some war between Zionist America and the Islamic World, certainly is not a war of Europeans and the White race against Arabs or some other Asiatics or Africans, rather it’s a war of International Jewry against free nations of the World. We are not neutral there, nor can we, this question, observe partially like a Jewish-Muslim conflict, rather like a total war of globalistic chargers against all those nations of the World which dare to oppose them.
I take my hat off to those people in Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Iran and everywhere else in the World where they are ready to defend theirs and not to bow their heads before the tyrant.
And do not forget, when, or if, they solve the Muslim question in the Near and Middle East, they will go further and solve all questions, one by one, and in the end there wont be neither us, nor the World as we know it today. We will have a whole planet as one corporation, in which surely the Jews will be the administrators, and all the others only a workforce and an endless army of consumers.
And this will befall us in the near future, if we do not understand that it doesn’t exist a clash of civilizations, and a clash of democratic vs. undemocratic countries, at least not in the classical sense, rather in process is a war of one huge and invisible force hidden behind the NATO pact and Western governments against the whole World, that is against that concept of the World in which exist nations, exist religions, different cultures and different traditions.
Yesterday it was Afghanistan, today Iraq, tomorrow maybe Iran, and already after tomorrow, when the conditions are obtained for it, it could be also Russia, China or again us the Serbs.
The planet is a battleground, in which currently the Muslims are shown to be the main negative characters from the reason that for World Zionism something like that is necessary, they have to always have some enemy who will endanger democracy and freedom because if they don’t have one, there exists a possibility that the eyes of the people could open and they would succeed to see the truth. And the truth is that the enemy is in our own backyard, that he presents himself as our own, whereas in reality he is the creator of crisis and overall instability of society.

Formerly the Jews were ettiqueted as the enemy, but that ball over two World wars they skillfully threw over on Germans, after Russians, whereas today on Muslims. Already tomorrow that could be the Chinese or maybe again Russians.

Those bastards, hopefully nothing will come of that. Isn't that the reason they left to Isreal in the first place? Why don't they get their own land over there instead of coming back and demanding that some poor farmers be taken off their farms.

Well nobody in Poland seems to knows about this Bill except our politicians who have told the mdeia to keep it quiet... but they are debating openly in Jerusalem and even blaming Poland for being slow in dealing with this matter.

DON'T LEAVE IT TO HOPE...TELL PEOPLE & PROTEST.

Polands govermnent is full of Jews, thats why, they're occupying all the administrative jobs, even though they do not admit to it. They're everywhere in high ranking positions in Poland, even today.

BS...

YOUR EITHER BLIND OR STUPID....ITS ACTUALLY A WELL KNOWN FACT....GO AND DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST AND PROVIDE MORE THAN 2 LETTERED INPUTS TO THE DISCUSSION.

I don't blame you Grzegorz. You're simply blind to the realities of life. The reality IS that most of Polands government is manned by people of Jewish decent. FACT!

so this part of our forum is "Polish Politics and History" just before war there was 3 mln jews in Poland and it is part of our history. 100 000 citizens have jewish origin, so why we cant discusse about it ?


The fact is that Yalta 1945 is part of our history too, the fact is that if you ask average American who did holocaust he will answer that Polish Nazi Catholics. The fact is that Israel citizens because Germans have done Holocaust for them think that they can hold poor Palestinians in Ghettos. The fact is that in USA they can not critsize Isreal policy just because in XX century have been done holocaust. I live in Poland and it is Polish forum I can tell whatever I want witjout looking on American standarst. I live in Poland and you dont, situation in our country is much better and I think that your patriotism is question because you have choosen other countries to live years ago, so you cant tell us that you want make money and come back ....

You might also add that it is not an American forum, nor Canadian, British, German etc. And yet you spend so much time writing about all the above.

Live what you preach, or preach what you live.

you forgot to mention the phobia forum :)

or the stinky oiky creep piggy prove it forum

or the 'shame on (insert relevant nation)!!' forum.

My take is that the Puzzler went to Canada and failed. A lot of immigrants fail. I've had my failures too, and I was humiliated once or twice. But instead of bi.tching I got up and kept on going. I came to a different country but I didn't know the rules. Once I figured them out I began to stand form for myself, for my family and for my community (Polish or otherwise).

I've lived in the US and in Canada for over 20 years. I did come across comments that were negative of Poland and Poles, but these comments either came from fools (in which case no amount of confincing will change their minds), or I was able to repell them. I am perfectly capable of making negative comments about other nationalities too.

Overall, I haven't suffered any ethinc bias and I worked all over the US and in Canada as a consultant and I was often hired ahead of those who were born here. I worked with Aglos, East Indians, Chinese, Poles, Germans Latinos, Jews and dozens of other nationalities. At IBM my boss was a Jamaican. Yup, a black fella. The nicest and possibly the best boss I ever had. Very knowledgeable too. They were all great people and they were not the problem. The problem are people like you who, instead of concentrating on themselves and bettering their lives, they keep on blaming the whole world for all the "evils" for their personal failures.

Puzzler,
In early 1980's over 60% of Canadian citizens were born outside Canada, so who are you calling Canadians? On another forum you wrote you spent 10 years in Canada. If it took you so long to figure out Canada was not for you, then perhaps the issue is not with Canada but you? It really is good be be a little quicker on your feet. Life's not that long after all. Don't waste it by spending 10 years in a place you hated, and then another 10 b.itching about it.

Whatever... I hope you are not representing Magyar majority, otherwise i would be ashamed shamed related to you (i am finn, you know related languages vér=veri=blood, kéz=käsi=hand)
You really should chill out man !!!

This thread started out by giving a list of Polish public figures that are supposed to be Jewish. A couple of pages ago, someone convincingly showed that most of the names on the list are not Jewish and invited the forum participants to do the research themselves. It is symptomatic that none seem to have done so, which illustrates the fact that one-track-mind personalities believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. An American comedian once said that 'the world can be divided into those that get it and those that don't' (cool vs. uncool, tolerant vs. intolerant, generous vs. ungenerous of spirit, liberal vs. anal, listening to arguments and shaping their views according to them vs. shaping the arguments to fit their prejuduces, etc). I'm sure you'll easily recognize which side you're on in this neat classification.

I also agree with the claim that most Catholics on these pages suffer from a pathological cognitive dissonance (Google it) of those who, on the one hand, hate Jews, but on the other pray to their God and apostles. This dissonance has long been explained as the Oedipal complex of a civilization which bears a subliminal grudge towards the tribe that gave them a monotheistic religion with high moral principles. Even though Christians have consciously accepted the religion's precepts, subconsciously, they resent the fact that they must repress their animal drives because of the strict moral discipline of Judaism.

Hate is a type of negative identification and a pathological state of mind but is so prevalent because it's a quick psychological fix for one's personal shortcomings and frustrations and an easy tool in the hands of the politicians for controlling the unthinking population. It's much easier to hate than to study, learn, tolerate, and better oneself. Unfortunately, a better part of the Polish nation has been anti-Semitic institutionally and culturally for hundreds of years, and for that reason, I can't say that I'm proud to be Polish.

I don't think it is about hating Jews as a religious body of people. It is more about distancing or condemning what this body of people have come to represent.

It is only human nature to be upset with someone who simply takes and takes and takes with no gratitude, and never gives in return.

I would say hypocracy is a lesser sin than taking whats not yours. I am sure you would be upset if someone took away your house, and ordered you to go and live in the garden shed. And while you lived in the shed with your family, they came and bulldozed it down. And that is after they had already cut off your electricity and water, and their kids had fired into your shed. I am sure I would be upset and would hate, but it would not stop me from praying.


Is this the same tribe that was kicked out of Egypt and ordered the crucifixion of Jesus ?


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Please define Anti-Semitic...? If you are not aware it is a term coined by Zionists to become the worlds biggest victims. It is used against anyone who dare question anything the Jews say or do. A Semite is actually someone from the middle-eastern language group.

And by the way, this "anti-semitism", its been here for thousands of years. Starting with Moses leading the exodus as the tribe was kicked out of Egypt...and ending with the "holocaust". In between there was the the German Crusade of 1096, Spanish Inquisition, eviction from Spain in 1492, the expulsion from Portugal in 1497, from England in 1290, various other pogroms in many countries. For the full list as seen on a Jewish website please see:

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Well Done!!!!This is exactly what the parasites want you to do...to lose your pride & dignity so you dont care anymore while they privatize our hospitals, railways, energy companies.

The Talmud, which is a collection of Jewish laws and traditions promoting the Jewish race, states the Jews are humans and rest of you are Goym or animal in human form created by their tribal god to serve them.

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Yes, he is so full of tolerance.

It's funny for me to even debate about this.

Well observed...I didn't notice it....you really brought out the animal in him lol :-)

What magic brought them where they are ? I don't care if they're Jewish, they are Polish, that's all. What matters is that they are doing good jobs, and that Poland is good, and getting better everyday. These Jews studied and worked to become part of the government.
To finish, they are not all Jews anyway. Tusk is not for example.

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Its not magic...its your ignorance, i dont care attitude coupled with their deceptive zionist goals.

They have a plan...what do you/we have ? That's why its time to WAKEUPPOLAND and smell the lies and deception!!!

While you are happy to lay bricks, be a mechanic, work in fields, work in a factory....the jew will never accept such jobs. He must be in a revenue generating or customer facing job: money lending, estate agencies, lawyers, doctors, politician etc....WAKEUP!!!!



Do you know how hard it is to become a lawyer for the average polish non-jew ? Once you have completed the 6 years of studying law, you will need to pay an unaffordable amount by the average polish family...yes pay a law firm to give you an apprenticeship for another 2 years. This makes it impossible unless you are already rich or are jewish.

And we know that most lawyers are jewish...so they tend to only "take their own". As such the jews who study hard get somewhere, while for those that are not jewish it becomes an almost impossibility.


Ask yourself why is it like this...? Its to exclude non-jews from the lawmaking of this country.

hahah LoL they have plan :)

for example Dorn (ex minister in Kacz gov) ;) who has jewish origin and his new wife (4th or 5th) converted him into Catholic religion :) oh yes he has "plan" to sell Poland. When we discusse we should do it on realistic level. We can discusse about Israel policy, or lobby in USA (Cubanians have their lobby too) or we can discusse about history but ideas like "they have the plan" are rather sick ... thats my private opinion ...

Tell me, poor ignorant dude, what is their plan.



You are taking few examples to generalize ! Did you know that there are middle-class and poor Jews too ?

What is for you the definition of "anti-semitism" ?...

I know its hard to believe...but let mee ask you a question...?

Do you think Bush has any ACTUAL say in the actions and decisions he performs ?

What do you mean ?

I totally respect your opinion because I too used to think like this....do me one favour: Pick any industry...find the top 10 companies in that industry. Then check how many of the top level management or ceo/ownners are Jewish. Just try it...you have nothing to lose.




I have given you a very good example so either you can read more into it or you can ignore it...

Also, i cant type so fast so let me take you to a link. PLEASE PLEASE go and just read a few of the articles. You will be shocked like I was. Everything will start to fit in.

iamthewitness.com

I mean he is a puppet.... Would you agree ?

Yeah maybe...at least he's as smart as a puppet... ;)