Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

I already went through this...it is a deceptive term as it is nothing to do with semitsm, and it is used to propogate that jews are the worlds biggest victims.

Wake up Poland, I went there already. You are a Nazi

No. I am Ashkenazi ;-)

WakeupPoland, please clarify your stance.

I am a Jewish Pole who emigrated to Isreal 19 years ago, almost to the day. I am middle class, and never had any relatives with high administrative positions. I find you and people of your same opinion to be a very disturbing trend. The U.S is not run by Jews, and G. Bush is not a puppet.

Regards,
Waldek

Every puppet has a puppeteer...who is pulling his strings ??? Ask yourself...if you dont know go and find out.

Then ask yourself if Bush is a puppet...what are or were our Twin Teletubby leaders ?

Waldek,

you are not a real jew then if you don't like money and aren't rich

The U.S is not run by Jews, and G. Bush is not a puppet.

Alan Greenspan (ex-fed reserve head) , Ben Bernanke (fed reserve head), Michael Chertoff (homeland secretary)...i cant type them all....

And G. Bush is not a Puppet???....Oh I am !! Sorry he is one of the smartest men on this planet.

So what are you trying to say ?

If some of you really think what you say about Jews, you obviously haven't met any.

You are a disgrace to your country Wakeup. You fill their minds with hate towards us Jews, who worked so hard in your country for so many centuries and filled the Polish coffers with money. If not for us, you would still be sleeping in rawhide tents and living in your own filth.

Ducks......



Generalization.

2 years ago in France, a Jew were kidnapped, bad treated, and killed. The reason : he was Jewish, so he must be rich. The truth was that he was very poor. Cruel story.

I have checked names of WIG20 (the bigest comoanies listed on Warszawa stock exchange ) ... you are wrong



Bush is idiot, but I understand waht do you mean... I think that Americans started tu usnderstand taht busniness of USA isnt equal of business of Israel. Proves ? Former american president book (Jimmi Carter mentioned before) ... it is proces but americans started to understand some fact ... I agre that in USA they have really stron Israel lobby, which harms USA interests and Americans cant critisize them because of political corectness ... but it isnt any conspirancy ... there is cubanian lobby too

That you generalize.

What I'm trying to say is that, contrary to your previous generalization that THERE ARE NO JEWS IN THE MIDDLE CLASS, there actually is.

pls give me the list I will prove you worng...!!

Wakeup, face it, you must have somewhere down the road, met a Jew who left a bad impression on you, and you can't let it go. The truth is, were NOT ALL THE SAME, and we don't need people like you spreading your paranoid hatred all across the internet.

http://www.money.pl/gielda/gpw/akcje/?sektor=0&indeks=WIG20&typ=0&refr esh_time=60&send=Zmie%F1

here you have list of companies, check presidents

its not what i was trying to say...I had many Jewish friends when I was a child, they were all middle class to upper middle class.

I am talking about the top class...those who rule countries and tell the PMs and Presidents what to do....

What do they tell them to do ?...give me examples if you don't want to tell 'everything'.

Give me some time...I cant do it now. I will post it as a separate post as we are going off topic.

WIG20 (presidents)

Agora - Sowa Marek

BankBPH - Wancer Józef

Bioton - Wilczęga Adam

BRE Bank - Lachowski Sławomir

BZWBK - Morawiecki Mateusz

CERSANT - Jędrzejczyk Mirosław

CEZ - Roman Martin (it is Czech comapany losued on our stock exchange)

KGHM - Skóra Krzysztof

LOTOS - Olechnowicz Paweł

PGB - Wiśniewski Jerzy

PEKAO- Bielecki, Jan Krzysztof

PGNIG- Głogowski Krzysztof

PKNORLEN- Kownacki Piotr

PKO BP - Juszczak Rafał

POLIMEXMS- Jaskóła Konrad

POLNORD - Ciurzyński Wojciech

PROKOM SOFTWARE - Góral Adam

TVN- Walter Piotr

TPSA - Witucki Maciej

GTC (I couldnt find)

BTW WakeUP ... I m 100% sure you dont live in Poland

from just wasting 10 minutes reading all your posts, i now am convinced that sterolization should be given to certain people at birth

The pro-israeli lobby in the US and in every other country.

You have the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs, Morgans, Oppenheimers, Goldman. Lehmans etc....You don't need to be tiold that the elite of society have a big say in politics.

Our Governments are not working in the favour of the people:

Examples of decisions which are against the people:
1) War with Iraq...every body is opposed yet we still sent troops there.
2) Health Care privatization so there is no more free health vare like america
3) Dumb-down education and no free-higher education
4) Distractions such as easily available porn, prostitution, drugs, addiction to tv.
5) Increasing the indebtedness of people by handing out credit so they are enslaved to banking system.

the above is not all obviously.....but you can find the plan at the below link:

URL

If you read my post I said top 10 companies in 1 chosen industry. Choose 1 industry, not 20 companies across all industries.

Why do you say that it's the Jews who want all that ?
Plus, i'm not against all these decisions. For example, when it comes to health care privatization. The hospitals in Poland need more money. The doctors have bad salaries. Privatization is a solution, but with other solutions to keep hospitals affordable...

;)

WakeUp ...
just tell me where do you live ?

Some of them were quite small. One was no more than years old, my aunt told me. She was sent to Auschwitz, and my two uncles to camps in Germany. The reason was that my grandma was hiding a little Jewish boy (no more than 8 years old, she said) in the barn, but the Germans found out. The boy was killed right there, on the spot. Near a water well in the yard, perhaps 10 paces from the house. A shot in his head. Nobody understands why the whole family wasn't also killed. They just took 3 oldest of the kids to concentration camps.

That happened in a small village in Pinczow region. Pinczow was inhabited by Jews in about 80% before the War. Grandma told me they were poor people. When I still lived in Poland there were none left. Not one. There is a Jewish cemetery next to the Catholic one. We used to place flowers there on All Saints Day. On Jewish graves too. Some people frowned, as I remember: "it's a sin to go to a Jewish cemetery on a Catholic holiday", they said. But my grandma, a devout Catholic, wouldn't listen. She was a very simple woman, but she had in her more humanity for the living, and respect for the dead than some of the biggest barkers on this forum combined.

The anti-semitic drivels are nothing but just that; stupid drivels. Their authors will pretend a vast knowledge of anything related to Jews, while in fact they know squat and are fed the sickness of the like minded individuals. I don’t need to seek in books any confirmation of the Jewish plight and attempts of their extermination.

The information and proof is a part of my family’s history. You see, both my aunt and the two uncles survived. So did many others in that village. The Pinczow Jews didn’t. Some of them were little kids, so again, in that you are absolutely correct –many Jews were not such big victims. They were young and small.

No one has had the guts to answer the crucial issues of Christian/Catholic anti-Semitism that I posed. Anti-Semites always skirt the main issues and skip to the next paranoid claim of Jewish domination of everything. If you hate Jews and pray to the divinity that was Jewish and use the Bible that was handed down to you by Jews - what does that make you? You try to answer that question for yourself as soon as you can because, as you believe, the time will come when you'll have to answer that and many other difficult questions to the Father of Christ on Judgement Day. Why are you such cowards? Be brave enough in your evil and say: "No, I could care less what the position of my church is and has been since the Nostra Aetate proclamation of 1965. I wish that the Nazis had exterminated all the Jewish vermin and I hope someone finishes the job sooner or later."
Instead, you play these games of lies and half-truths, lists of non-Jews being paraded as Jews, pretending that you're insulted when someone calls you anti-Semitic, trying to justify your corrupt nature to yourself and knowing deep down that you can't. You look for like-minded fools on these forums because misery loves company. You don't have enough courage or intelligence to look deep into your own soul and psyche and find the reasons why you find it your main preoccupation in life to villify a tribe that is just as good or bad as any on this earth but has somehow managed to make significant contributions to the Western civilization far beyond their numbers despite irrational persecutions.
That explains why you wouldn't discuss the 2nd main issue of my post - that of hatred as mental illness. None of my Jewish friends hates any of the nations that oppressed and butchered them in the past - not the Germans, Russians, Ukranians, Arabs, and yes, not the Poles. They feel contempt towards the anti-Semites amongst them but fully accept the ones that are not. Your own soul will be saved when you can judge anyone (not just the Jews) on the basis of their individual merits, not their nationality or religion. Try it - it will make you free and fully human.

Honestly I dont feel sory because of German "Christians" killing Polish citizens during WWII (3mln Jewish Poles killed and 3 mln other religon Poles killed). Whta is more I think that our deffinitions of anti-semit are different ...

Exceptionally tendencious, however I believe that this is a conscious provocation for which you realize it has no relation with reality.