Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

Don Corleone is a fictional character......ha ha ha ha !!

Go to the top of the class and get a cookie for your observational skills..........Im sorry,I was trying to inject a little humour into this otherwise sad thread.......
BTW, the name Corleone may have been made up(as this is th name of a real town in sicilies LCN heartland),but his charector was not, the film may be fiction but only just.

what fact have you presented to the table...?

Yep,sorry,but again, no,no "Mafia" in the traditional sense of the word would be jewish, the mafia were a sociaty formed in Sicily to protect the land and catholic faith from invaders, the latter Mafia, or more correctlly the Black Hand were all Italian American. Jewish people may have been involved in organised crime but they certainly werent Mafia Dons.

Tsk, tsk, Wakeup,

Why are you watching a movie that had so many Jewish people involved in the making of it: James Caan, Abe Vigoda, Peter Zinner (Editor), Andrea Eastman (casting), Warren Clymer (Art Direction), Charles Grenzbach (Sound Recordist), Christopher Newman (same),Sass Bedig(Special Effects), Howard Block (Camera), Jim Meyerhoff (General Operator), Jack Stager(Still Photographer), Marc Laub (Segment Editor), Barbara Marks (Assistant Editor), Murray Solomon (Segment Editor), John Hammell (Music Editor), Gary Chazan (Assistant to Producer), Robert Mendelssohn (Executive Assistant)? And also a movie by Martin Scorcese, whose best friends are Jewish? All I can say is"TSK, TSK, TSK!"

And what is the list of Jewish gangsters meant to achieve? To show that Jews are not perfect? Shouldn't you think even worse of Italians because the Italian gangsters certainly outnumbered the Jewish by a large margin? Every nationality in America either had or still has gangsters, and that includes the Poles. Still, few Jews would think of painting with a broad brush all the American Poles just because some of them are punks.

That your a twisted anti semite and I'll leave it at that
this christains had enough of dealing with you,you are blinded by a hate rational people cannot understand no matter how hard we try.

CORRECTION: The Director is F.F. Coppola. I'd had him in mind, but I'd just seen a Martin Scorcese movie - thence the Freudian slip.

Well done....Thats another field they dominate....or are you to blind still to see it.

That is why Mel Gibson had to be shut up after he opened his mouth.

I am not an anti-jewish, I am against zionists and criminals who brew wars and poverty and make suckers like you blind to their actions. Good night!

Waky, Waky,

But you can't have it both ways. If the Jews are dominating the film industry, why are you watching American movies? They must be doing something right to attract hundreds of millions of viewers across the globe. Jews are disproportionately represented in the movie industries of European countries too. Remember Polanski, Forman, and many other moviemakers from Poland and Czheckoslovakia? Are they great directors because of their Jewish buddies? And why can you accept the fact that blacks dominate athletics without accusing them of sinister plots and without doubting their merits and talents but you can't accept the fact that Jews are doing their jobs based on their merits? My friend OBSERVER here, a Jewish guy, tells me that he never got a job for being Jewish. He wishes he could, but it simply doesn't work that way unless you have a relative that owns the business. But even then, the relative is not gonna keep you if you don't do the job right. The legal system in America is so sensitive to protectionism lawsuits today that any boss would think twice before giving a job to somebody just because they're of the same ethnicity.
Jewish domination in many fields is a result of the fact that they are one of the oldest tribes in the world and have had enough time to realize the power of education. If your culture and family dictate that you read, study, work hard, and make something of yourself, the results will show in a disproportionate number of successful people in almost any field. Are all those genius Jewish chess players there because of Jewish protectionism? Are all those genius Jewish violinists there because a Jewish impresario hired them over a more talented non-Jewish artist? Do all of those Jewish Nobel Prize winners have connections in the Swedish Academy? That's why I say that one of the ways to explain this irrational animosity is envy, plain and simple.

I never said they don't make good movies but I they are alwways promoting their own agenda, whether subliminally or in your face. They will only show you what they want you to see, until you are so brainwashed and desensitises, that if you start questioning why, you are labelled anti-semetic.

Its too hard to protest any sort of boycott against Zionist dominated areas because they are behind most of not all industries and aspects of current life.



Thanks for talking facts. But do you also acknowledge that they are disproportionately represented in EVERY INDUSTRY. Do you acknowledge this?

If yes, then ask yourself HOW 2% (there are only about 26 million jews worldwide, out of which probably only 5% (the zionsists) have any sort of controlling power, while the rest are sheep like you)) of the worlds population dominate every aspect of our life.

And if they do, do you not think that are our education, history, politics, and direction are according to their Agenda ?



Jacek, I AGREE with you here too. And this is absoutely riight. Education is truly the answer. So tell me why the education in the US and UK is so dumbed down ? Why are more and more kids not continuing higher education....

The truth is an environement has been created by our governments (they are directly responsible for this) where:

1) Education is dumbed down
2) Higher education is being replaced by vocational studying & kids leaving school to get jobs at Tesco.
3) Families are broken down by easy divorce laws and distractive vices
4) Such vices are alcohol, sex, drugs, which are tolerated and promoted in 'popular' media
4) The above are being introdcued to a younger and younger kids by the media.
5) Parents are not sending kids to higher education so they can assist the household income by working at Tesco.
6) Values such as religion, respecting parents, reading and learning.
As such our society is at the bottom, not able to rise up to the same level as our jewish neighbours.

Why have our govts failed us in the above.....? Why ? Surely it is their responsibility...Meanwhile we have greater economic growth, more and more billionaires (most of them jewish), and our stock market keeps rising. At what expense..?

er,is this meant to be an argument for or against?
Erwache,you still havnt answered my question,why is your forum name the same as on the nazi banners?
And lets try a little of your own brand of warrped logic on you Erwache;
POLand/ POL Pot,get it,do you see the connection now?well do you?or are you just a sheep?
Its clear you like to see yourself as some sort of rebel,what are you,about 21,when the whole world are drones and you are the only person alive to actually "see" it like it is..........never mind little one,in your many years to come you may shake the blinnkers of hate from your eyes and lead a far more productive life,if not,ho hum,your loss,just remember,throw out your TV,never go to the pictures,forget about music(unless its the Horst Wessel lied) dont even bother getting ill and never ,ever travel abroad or you might just break your embargo on all things jewish.....

Economic growth at the expense of decline of society: broken families, increased violence, unaffordable education and health care. Sounds familiar....

what is the point of econcomic growth when kids are going to school hungry? The govt here should be ashamed....and then they want charities and the people they failed to sort this out.

still no answer erwache?

Stop believing someone's trying to dominate the world ! What makes you become this paranoid ?? Tell the teacher, he/she can call your parents to have a talk :)

Why do you keep calling me Erwache ?

I have no idea what Nazi banners you are referring to....honestly...? Pls direct me and I will change my name if I have to.

From the beginning people who have told the TRUTH have always been labelled crazy. By the way I am not 21...but when I was I used to think like you sheep.

Ask yourself HOW 2% (there are only about 26 million jews worldwide, out of which probably only 5% (the zionsists) have any sort of controlling power, while the rest are sheep like you)) of the worlds population dominate every aspect of our life.

Goodnight my sheep!!! There are no shepherds who can guide you!!!

I am a specialist in psychopathology, and I am deeply concerned about wakeup's condition, which is displaying all the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. I hope you have good doctors in Poland.

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If you're an expert in anything it's nothing to do with the psyche...

Why doesn't the respondent identify himself/herself, and why is he/she doubting my credentials? It looks like the webmaster might be giving their opinion here, which is unheard of in any forum that I've participated in. Are you a psychiatrist too? If so, can you offer a different clinical diagnosis based on wakeup's posts, especially the last one, in which he blames 5 million Jews (or 'Zionists', as he euphemistically calls them) for controlling the entire world. That's a classic case of pathological persecution complex or paranoia, which I encounter every day in my private and hospital practice, only the persecutors vary from case to case. There are good medications on the market these days for this condition.

Jewish can mean whatever 'Jews' wish it to mean, and this is part of the problem...they
'define' themselves at their own convenience.

You're paranoid. Even if it's true, what's the problem ? Are they going to kill us all ? I don't care what they do, they do their job.



You duck.



I think you're right BigLarry ;)

Jews don't control the world...this is, indeed, a paranoid mindset...that having been said, the reasons why people are suspicious of 'Jews' are these: 1) they are less than
1% of the world's population, yet they have inordinate control of finance, media & they
have nuclear weapons...2) their religion (based on the Talmud/Kaballah) professes that they are seperate from the rest of the human race, with the rest of us 'goyim' fated to
serve them...3) they define themselves as they see fit, changing names & history as it
suits their purposes...now, LET ME NOTE: these are tactics of the 'Jewish' rabbis/leadership & do not reflect the views/beliefs of many Jewish people, who just like
non-Jews, are victitized by 'leaders' who crave domination and worship money/power.

To JOEPILSUDSKI

(You admit that Jews don't control the world but then proceed to give reasons why you think they do.)

1. Even though Jews might be overrepresented in the business world proportionate to their numbers, they're still a small minority in comparison to the business and politics movers and shakers of Anglo, Scottish, Irish, German,, French, Dutch, and other European descent. To say otherwise is not to know the facts and/or parrot age-old prejudices. Anyone who agrees with Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, Mussolini, Stalin, Bin Laden, and other heavyweights of evil needs to have their head and soul examined.
It's interesting that those who accuse Jews of controlling the world never bring up their disproportionate numbers in those fields where merit and talent are incontrovertible and where they cannot be faked or promoted by Jewish protectionism - as in sciences, literature, music, technology, visual arts, architecture, chess, and yes, even sports. In the coming posts, I'll submit to you some of those names. Without even recognizing it, your lives have been enriched or made easier in many ways through the contributions of those people.
2. Very few Jews are orthodox in their interpretation of sacred texts. Those that are orthodox don't participate in public life. Very few Jews consider themselves separate from humanity. On the contrary, they are fully and willingly assimilated in most countries of the world, intermarry with non-Jews and participate fully in public life. A native French, American, German, or Czech Jew is almost indistinguishible from the other natives in his/her appearance, outlook, or behavior. If some of them possess certain Semitic physical characteristics, these could pass for southern Italian, Armenian, Spanish, or Arabic features. But, as someone said, if you forget that you're Jewish, there'll always be someone to brutally remind you of it.
As for the charge of Jews being a chosen people, crucial to the Jewish notion of chosenness is that it creates obligations exclusive to Jews, while non-Jews receive from God other covenants and other responsibilities. Generally, it does not entail exclusive rewards for Jews. It says nowhere in those texts that Jews should be overlords above everyone else. Kabballah is a book of mystical teachings that deal with the ideas of creation and concepts of a spiritual nature, but it has never been in the mainstream of Judaism and is read and observed by very few Jews.


3. You offer no facts or illustration here. What names and historical facts have been changed? In what way do Jews define themselves as they see fit? Jewishness is an ethnic and religious designation. I'm ethnically Jewish, but I'm not religious. If I converted to Catholicism, I'd still be ethnically Jewish. On the other hand, you don't have to be ethnically Jewish, but you can convert to Judaism, which would make you religiously but not ethnically Jewish. It's as simple as that, and it's always been like that - no changes or problems with self-identity at all.
The rabbis are changing names and history, crave domination and power? Are you for real? Obviously, you've never met a rabbi in your life and have no idea what they do and how modest their lives are. If I were to apply your paranoid logic, I would have more substance to accuse the Vatican of world domination, with its centralized power structure, vast material resources, and global outreach. There is The World Jewish Congress, but to compare it to the Vatican is to compare Lichtenstein to the Roman Empire.
As to Jewish leaders victimizing their own people and non-Jews by domination cravings and worshipping money and power - there you go again. You've swallowed the propaganda of Hitler, Himmler, Goering. Goebbels, Streicher, and all of their other henchmen hook, line, and sinker. We all know what the verdict of that ideology was at the Nuremberg Trials. And we all know what the verdict was at another, recent, trial of David Irving, another Jew-hater and history revisionist. Are those your heroes and role models? If so, I repeat my suggestion from before. Paranoia can be controlled with medication these days.

My post was addressing the question/accusation of 'anti-semitism' that is thrown around by those who know not of which they speak...The firs part was related to the
allegation that "Jews run the world'...I gave my view on that...the second part related to the question 'Why do people have negative opinions on Jews'...I gave my view on that...both of these questions are asked repeatedly on the thread...as far as my giving
any validation to the 3 reasons why people are suspicious of Jews, you will have to read history yourself, including, possibly the Talmud & other Talmudic tracts such as 'Toledoth Yeshu' or the writings of Maimonides and other Judaic theologians...as far as Jews changing identity/history, this is an incontrovertible fact...they change their names whenever it suits their purposes for business, usually to try & blend in with their
host nation...the Israelis try to change history evry day in that country, by creating 'facts
on the ground' that create a new Zionist reality, while attempting to expel/exterminate the Palestinian people...as far as my swallowing 'nazi' propaganda, I reject it completely, but you ought to be aware that the Nazis/Zionists collaborated in many areas during WWII for the establishment of the state of Israel & the expulsion of Eastern European Jews...many high-ranking Nazis were Jewish or part Jewish, including
Heydrich, Eichmann & yes, good old Adolph...the average Jewish person is not aware of many of these realities, because it is suppressed information (although there is a book
called 'The Transfer Agreement' published by a major publishing that details elements of
this)...I hope I have addressed some of what you have inquired about, and if you would
like to discuss it more you can email me...by the way, Ned, if you are Jewish, I would consider myself 'Rodef Shalom'...Peace

Jewish athletes and chess players that made their achievements thru The World Jewish Congress protectionism and the thirst for world domination of their rabbis. Another theory is that the American Neo-Cons (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Chertoff) may have had to do something with it:

Boris Becker, Pete Sampras, Brad Gilbert, Brian Gottfried, Aaron Krickstein, Amos Mansdorf, Tom Okker, Fanny Blankers-Koen, Irina Press, Tamara Press, Red Holzman, Nancy Lieberman, Max Baer, Oksana Baiul, Alain Calmat, Irina Rodnina, Bela Guttmann, Tatiana Lisenko, Kerry Strug, Vitaly Davydov, Yury Moiseev, Bernie Ecclestone, Stirling Moss, Carlos Reutemann, Ian Scheckter, Jody Scheckter, Tomas Scheckter, Mark Spitz, Victor Barna, Angelica Rozeanu, Ana Sipos, Miklos Szabados.... (to be contd.)

Jewish athletes


You forgot the great Jewish- American boxers Barney Ross & Max Baer...and Liverpool AC has a very good Israeli striker playing with them now...and, also, one of the greatest
pitchers I ever saw, Sandy Koufax.

midfield player not striker

I stand corrected...he's been scoring quite a few goals, so I guess I consider him more of a striker than their other strikers.

The NAZI's were able to effortlessly annihilate so many Jews in Poland (just like the Japs could have done with the Chinese by fencing off China-towns), because they congregated in their own suburbs, but Łódź always was 60% Jewish... with the 40% Poles that were used as workforce in the manchester and service industry there. (1911 World Almanac)

But, on the topic, in most cases they changed their own names. Thus Lech Walesa's father has a different name, while Aleksander Kwasniewski's father also had a different name (incidentally Kwas's father was a prominent NKVD officer in Poland and responsible for ordering the execution of tens of Polish freedom fighters in the 1950's).

I didn't even touch baseball or American football and many other minor sports because those names wouldn't be familiar to European readers. My list is just the tip of an iceberg.