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FISZ
  Apr 27, 07, 10:47  #61

ahhh he's just a whacky American Musician :)

This is the only place these opinions can be seen/hear from these guys

I'm sure it'll close soon


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joepilsudski
  Apr 27, 07, 12:36  #62

I DONT MEAN TO DEPRESS YOU MIRANDA, BUT AMERICA HAS ENDURED ALMOST 20 YEARS
OF BUSH/CLINTON & THE NEO-COHENS...WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD...OUR ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING WITH INFLATION AT ABOUT 15%...AND OF COURSE, TWO WARS IN IRAQ
FOR OIL & ISRAEL WITH 12000 AMERICAN SERVICEMAN/WOMEN KILLED, THOUSANDS
MORE SICK & MAIMED, 200000-300000 IRAQUI PEOPLE MURDERED...IT IS NOT A PRETTY
PICTURE...I JUST WANT TO WARN THE POLISH PEOPLE, BECAUSE THESE SAME FORCES
ARE OPERATING IN POLAND NOW...DON'T LET IT RUIN YOUR DAY,BUT: KNOWLEDGE IS
POWER

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daffy
Edited by: daffy  Apr 27, 07, 12:57  #63

Quoting: Grzegorz_
We are very tolerant.


unless you want a gay pride parade, buy property in Poland BUT its ok if you want to trade your polish woman for Oil? am i wrong G? (god i hope so)

Quoting: Great Leader
It is not racist to want only your own ethnic group in your own country.


eh, yes, it is racist. its called xenophobia.

Quoting: Great Leader
If you argue otherwise, you are the racist because you encourage others to come to the country simply because they are different.


eh, no, We're not advocated that at all. we saying free people have free movement and are entitled to do so. that is not encouragement, merely stating a human right.

Quoting: Casimir
Because in Poland they do a good job of keeping rap and other crap out of the country by shunning people who listen to it.

Quoting: witek
there is a lot of hip hop and rap in Poland :)

Witek said it best

as to Polish Jews, why would you harbour such resentment against them? ive read this entire thread twice (as a mod and as a member) and see NOTHING that precipitates what is being spewn here.imho

Quoting: miranda
this thread should be closed


its a pretty sad topic but its not breaking rules and is 'clean' discussion



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Great Leader [Guest]
  Apr 27, 07, 13:58  #64

Quoting: joepilsudski
I DONT MEAN TO DEPRESS YOU MIRANDA, BUT AMERICA HAS ENDURED ALMOST 20 YEARS
OF BUSH/CLINTON & THE NEO-COHENS...WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD...OUR ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING WITH INFLATION AT ABOUT 15%...AND OF COURSE, TWO WARS IN IRAQ
FOR OIL & ISRAEL WITH 12000 AMERICAN SERVICEMAN/WOMEN KILLED, THOUSANDS
MORE SICK & MAIMED, 200000-300000 IRAQUI PEOPLE MURDERED...IT IS NOT A PRETTY
PICTURE...I JUST WANT TO WARN THE POLISH PEOPLE, BECAUSE THESE SAME FORCES
ARE OPERATING IN POLAND NOW...DON'T LET IT RUIN YOUR DAY,BUT: KNOWLEDGE IS
POWER



THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN

GLOBALISTS ARE IN PL AS WELL NOW

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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Apr 27, 07, 14:04  #65

Quoting: joepilsudski
WE ARE BEING OVERUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO & THE THIRD-WORLD

Overrun? LOL what in gods name are you babbling about?? Where in the backs of diners and restaurants? Hey, my lawn looks nice.... ok?


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Great Leader [Guest]
  Apr 27, 07, 14:09  #66

12 million illegals

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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Apr 27, 07, 14:43  #67

Quoting: Great Leader
12 million illegals

So what...doesn't really afrect me so much. I have a good job. No need for me to compete to work in the fields or a golf course. The only really bad thing is illegals generally don't pay income taxes, but do use schools and other government services...that's a bit of a drain on the economy. We have larger issues, such as the increasing use of automation in manufacturing or growth in global trade. These have more on an impact on wages, prices and the health of the US economy.

Anyway...what was this topic about?


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europe awake [Guest]
  Apr 27, 07, 18:46  #68

So fisz you would just write off those who are less fortunate them you and have their jobs taken by illegal immigrants? The land of the free is a joke! A police officer can't even ask if some one is illegal or not. They fill our prisons , clog our court systems suck off of our welfare the list goes on.Futhermore Mexicans don't become americans, they bring Mexico with them. Importing a fast breeding, permanent underclass into america
will destroy the nation. But who cars as long as well are all politically correct :)..

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europe awake [Guest]
  Apr 27, 07, 18:47  #69

None of this would be happening anywhere if the western world didn't have ZOG governments.

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europe awake [Guest]
Edited by: Admin  Apr 27, 07, 18:54  #70

"THE TIME HITLER CAME TO POWER IN GERMANY, IT WAS TOO LATE; THE NATIONAL SO-
CIALISTS WERE DETERMINED TO ELIMINATE THE BOLSHEVIK STATE & POLAND LAY IN THEIR PATH...OF COURSE, STALIN WHO HATED, BUT WAS ALWAYS READY TO USE 'JEWS'
FOR HIS DIRTY WORK, SAW WHAT WAS COMING; HE BOUGHT TIME FOR RUSSIAN BY CUTTING A DEAL W/HITLER & POLAND WAS PLUNGED INTO HELL...AFTER THE WAR, STALIN PUT HIS LOYAL POLISH 'JEWS' IN POWER IN POLAND & THE TORTURE CONTINUED...IT IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE CURRENT EVENTS IN POLAND FROM U.S."


I agree STALIN was a two sided man. In one way he kissed the jews but in others secretley had them knocked off. He knew who would never be intertwined into the hebrewism of it all.

A good article sample on the topic

"Putin has committed a far greater crime in the minds of the Jewish media. He is Russian. A real Russian. Although he came to power with back door political manipulation and with the aid of some Jewish allies, underneath he has always had a Russian soul waiting for the chance to assert itself.


davidduke.com/general/the-attack-on-putin_261.html

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john sobieski [Guest]
  Apr 27, 07, 20:24  #71

Why won't anybody answer my question, is Waltz a slavic name or not?

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witek
  Apr 27, 07, 22:02  #72

Quoting: john sobieski
Waltz

Waltz is not a slavic name, it is German


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john sobieski [Guest]
  Apr 30, 07, 00:10  #73

Does this mean her husband is German?

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festron [Guest]
  Sep 8, 07, 06:29  #74

tHIS IS AN EXCELLENT POST BY BABYLON. Those who critisize this post are 100 % Zionists who support the aggression of Israel. BABYLON, dont feel let down by these critics as they are themselves zionists. Continue ur work.

Jewish are people of great history until the period of Jesus Christ, but after him they embraced Judaism instead of thier own book (Torah). Unfortunately most of the zionists are running the world now with their neo-con view and they even changed thier names (the older generation)and plot a lot in order to control the countries around the globe. The zionists are the root cause of the major problems in the world. If their dominance is eliminated, the world will be a peaceful place not only for us but also for them.

The Zionists even have a plan to build a greater Israel and to rebuild the temple of solomon in the place of a moslem mosque, which is sacred to moslems around the globe. The zionists are using us (US,EU and ''allies'') to fight the moslems around the globe in the name of '' War on Terror'' (Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 8, 07, 07:35  #75

Quoting: festron
tHIS IS AN EXCELLENT POST BY BABYLON.


Well, saying that for example Kczyński twins are Jews is simply idiotic...

Quoting: festron
Those who critisize this post are 100 % Zionists who support the aggression of Israel.


I've got nothing against Israel and people living there. I see rather a problem with Jews living in Europe and America, who often are commies with no respect for their host country and use the victim card so much that in fact they create antisemitism.


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Grzegorz_
  Sep 8, 07, 07:40  #76

Quoting: festron
The Zionists even have a plan to build a greater Israel and to rebuild the temple of solomon in the place of a moslem mosque, which is sacred to moslems around the globe.


Aren't these rather American protestant fundamentalists... ?


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Lukasz
  Sep 8, 07, 07:45  #77

Quoting: Grzegorz_
I've got nothing against Israel and people living there. I see rather a problem with Jews living in Europe and America, who often are commies with no respect for their host country and use the victim card so much that in fact they create antisemitism.


You are sick ... now I m sure what do you mean by saying PO has wrong people ...


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Grzegorz_
  Sep 8, 07, 08:05  #78

Quoting: Lukasz
You are sick ...


LOL ! And exept this crap what else you've got to say ?


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Daisy
Edited by: Daisy  Sep 8, 07, 11:04  #79

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Aren't these rather American protestant fundamentalists... ?



yes, this is the kind of stuff they believe. Al Qaeda isn't the only group with some weird ideas

bibleprophesy.org/introtrumpets.htm


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 8, 07, 13:31  #80

Ehhmmm, ok I will show my point of view.

Just beffore the II WW jews were about 9,4 % of population. It was the bigges Jews coumunity in Europe, second all over the world (in USA there were more jews)

So thats why I think Poland wasnt so bad for them, just because they choosen to live in Poland not in Germany, France or England. We werent the richest country in Europe, but they have choosen this place to live... WHY? I just think that in those times we were more tolerant than others.

Yes I think thre are antisemits in Poland (like everywhere) but even those twins who are supported by antysmits and natioanlists, aren t rasist

Kaczyski in Israel

kaczysnki

Kaczysnki again :

kaczorek

even Dorn one of main faces of PiS (Kaczysnkis party) is jew convertet in to catolic (his wife is catolic and persuaded him to change religion) and he hasnt any problems with that ...


So even on the right side of our political scene there is no place for antysemits.

Our antysemits are rather easy to manipulate, and Kaczysnki just uses them as the tool. He is supported by radom maryja and Trwam, just because he has just to persuade Rydzyk to his party and Rydzyk is persuading the rest of his dumb supporters ...

Giertych who could be consdered as rasist doesnt have big chances to stay in parlament any longer.

And conections between PiS and Radio Maryja should be rather seen as the "real policy" than ally or something like that ...


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 8, 07, 14:07  #81

It shows the origin of flustration of antysemits in Poland (we can see it in this forum)
They can only writte stupid things on internet, and in elections they go to the pools nad vote on US ;-)))))))


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isthatu
  Sep 8, 07, 18:34  #82

Quoting: Lukasz
So thats why I think Poland wasnt so bad for them, just because they choosen to live in Poland not in Germany, France or England.


er,thousands of Jews have lived in England for centuries,while jews were confined to gettos and shtetls in Poland in Britain they were totaly free citizens,we even had a jewish(descended) Prime Minister in the 19th century,Benjimin Disreali, so Poland hardly has some gilded spot as the uber tolerent haven for jews some would belive. Many choose to change their surnames to English sounding ones for much the same reason many Poles of the 45 generation changed theirs,because the "locals" couldnt pronounce them,hardly the basis for some master plan of world domination is it?

The origional thread of this whole section just seemed a bit odd to me,As though J Korczak had any reason to "hide" his jewishness ,isnt he best known for going with his charges to treblinka?
Mind you,this sort of anti semitism has an almost quaint(though repugnent) air to it,its all so mid last century,Oswold mosely and silly 'tashes conjouring up global conspirecies to make up for their own shortcomings as men.
Im sure many people will find much amusement in the theory put forward by some on here that " The jews are cunningly ruling the US(world etc) for their own profit/gain" is this the same US(WORLD ETC) that the same posters imply is going to hell in a hand basket and economically failing? Kinda turns your arguments of "jews being financial experts" upside down. Surely if a secret group of people were running things theyd do it a little more efficiantly? or am I just a zionist puppet/lacky running dog/lover of untermensch?


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osiol
Edited by: osiol  Sep 8, 07, 18:43  #83

Quoting: isthatu
Jews have lived in England for centuries

Oliver Cromwell invited them back in 1657, over 367 years after they had been brutally evicted by Edward I in 1290.
There was a small number of Jews living secretly in England in the intervening years, particularly in later times.

Quoting: isthatu
little more efficiantly

I agree that most grand conspiracy theories don't add up because everything seems to be more of a mess than a well organised elite would possibly settle for.


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Grzegorz_
  Sep 8, 07, 18:53  #84

Quoting: isthatu
while jews were confined to gettos and shtetls in Poland


How were they "confined" ? They simply didn't want to assimilate and live with goys.


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 8, 07, 19:30  #85

Quoting: isthatu
thousands of Jews have lived in England for centuries,while jews were confined to gettos and shtetls in Poland in Britain they were totaly free citizens



Ehhh ot be honest concetration camps and gettos were made by GERMANS !! WE WERE UNDER OCCUPATION, they came to our country and send all jews to certain parts of cities (gettos) with jewis comunity, than started killing them. Durring this war we lost about 6 milion citizens (3 milions of them were jews, just gues the nationality of the rest) Members of my famili were killed in concentration camps too and they were Poles. Just before the war jews were free, they voted in elections, they had their representation in parlament. I think there are some reasons why jews setteld in Poland and I dont think the reason was money ...

War started in 1939, our dear German neighbours noticed that they dont have enought space in their own country, so inviaded Poland and started murdering Jews and Poles to make space for pure Germans. Created Gettos and gas chambers.



Maybe different question ... Planes in 1941 starting from occupied France to bomb London were French or German ?

You know, after the war it was so easy when western Germany become ally, and Poland was given as a gift for Stalin. To change history and start even talking about Polish dead camps, call German soldiers Nazist. And now we have what we have: Jews were killed not by Germans but by Nazists in Poland in Polish concetration camps.

And accusing our society about anty-semitism is just harming. Because we never had bigger problems with that, than other countries. And if some occupators German ('39-'45)
or comunistic regimes imposed by Moscov (45-89) did something bad for jews. You shouldnt accuse Poles because those forces did for Poles many bad things too.

I showed in my previous post that people with jews origin dont have any porblems in our country. They are on both sides in our parlament. And anty-semits/natioalists/rasist ect. are marigin.


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osiol
  Sep 8, 07, 19:38  #86

I believe that in WWII, there were both Poles who sheltered Jews (therefore risking their own lives) and those who collaborated in the killing.

I don't know about numbers in population, but many Jews lived in ghettos so they could stick with their own community and practise their own traditions. In Russia, where Jews could live was prescribed by laws. In Britain, there were no such laws. I'm not certain as to the position of other countries, but these two cases are the two opposing ends of the spectrum.

Poland had had the largest Jewish population in Europe for a long time until the middle of the last century.


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Lukasz
  Sep 8, 07, 19:40  #87

Quoting: osiol
I believe that in WWII, there were both Poles who sheltered Jews (therefore risking their own lives) and those who collaborated in the killing.


yes. like in every occupied country.


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osiol
Edited by: osiol  Sep 8, 07, 19:50  #88

The starkest contrast being between the Jedwabne pogrom and the liberation of a camp in the Warszawa uprising.

Antisemitism in Europe began - with the restrictions laid down by the church on how Christians (ie. the entire population of Europe minus the Jews) could deal with money. The work had to be done by someone, and this laid down the basis for the Jewish 'bogeyman'.
Modern day conspiracy theorists aren't doing anything new.

It is old, sad and pathetic.


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Grzegorz_
  Sep 8, 07, 19:52  #89

Quoting: osiol
I believe that in WWII, there were both Poles who sheltered Jews (therefore risking their own lives) and those who collaborated in the killing.


And there were Jews, who collaborated in the killing of both Jews and Goys.


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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 8, 07, 19:53  #90

Quoting: osiol
I don't know about numbers in population, but many Jews lived in ghettos so they could stick with their own community and practise their own traditions.


You know it is hard to call getto parts of towns where jews were about 40 % of those towns population, and there were a lot of that towns (especialy in eastern Poland)

But in this meaning, gettos existed in Poland, but it was just the issue of sb choice live with their own society or no . Durring II WW Germans forced jews to live in small gettos surrounded by walls and german soldiers, it was used by them to exterminate jews.


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