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setanta
  Jan 9, 08, 05:15  #1

Hi!
I'm starting research into Polish kids entering the UK education system. Do any of you have kids now in the UK primary school. How are they managing? Are there enough resources to help them, e.g. learning English?
Thanks in advance.
Michael

 
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hello GOLD MEMBER
  Jan 9, 08, 21:53  #2

Polish kids are said to be smarter overall than their British peers. Not sure about their English though since they most likely speak Polish at home and watch Polish TV/games.

 
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Cricket [Guest]
  Jan 10, 08, 03:54  #3

Perhaps the language barrier may actually prove an advantage. The fact the kids have to learn another language other than their own immedately forces the child to pay more attention if they want to understand what is being taught. Secondly perhaps like the Indian and the jewish communities there is a greater value placed upon gaining a good education. These reasons might explain why Polish kids seem smarter. The children of economic migrants learn from an earlier ag the need for hard work. Whilst native English kids take it as a given that they will find a decent job, because they are English. However, this being the global market place this is no longer the case

 
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ShelleyS
  Jan 10, 08, 05:36  #4

Cricket wrote:
jewish communities there is a greater value placed upon gaining a good education


Education is generally better in Jewish schools - classes are smaller, private funding is always a bonus and teachers are generally more strict - so you cant really compare them with the 'local comp'!

 
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Michal
  Jan 12, 08, 13:00  #5

I know one or two Polish school children and in fact they are very lazy. They waited as long as possible to start school in the first place and have made no attempt at all to learn the language.

 
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Grzegorz_
  Jan 12, 08, 13:11  #6

I know three or four British school children and they are even dumber than Michal's stupid kid.

 
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z_darius
  Jan 12, 08, 13:14  #7

Michal wrote:
They waited as long as possible to start school in the first place and have made no attempt at all to learn the language.

Why would they need the language? After all, according to your theory, all Poles are good at is riveting and welding things together.

I hope someone some day welds your jaws together once and for good.

 
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Michal
  Jan 12, 08, 13:15  #8

I know of quite a lot of dumb English school children but even so, I can not think of any English school kids dumb enough to live in Poland.

 
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z_darius
  Jan 12, 08, 13:16  #9

Michal wrote:
I can not think of any English school kids dumb enough to live in Poland.

You married someone like that.

 
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JustysiaS
  Jan 12, 08, 13:17  #10

Michal wrote:
I know one or two Polish school children and in fact they are very lazy. They waited as long as possible to start school in the first place and have made no attempt at all to learn the language.


was that another example of what Poles were like 5 thousand years ago, or did you just make it up? as far as im concerned kids dont have anything to say about when they start school, their parents send them to school. maybe their parents arrived in UK when they were in the 3rd year in a Polish school, and since they dont speak the language they had to start from the 1st year in UK? ever thought about that? or was it just too comfortable not to?

 
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Michal
  Jan 12, 08, 13:18  #11

z_darius wrote:
You married someone like that.

How do you know? Who says that I am even married? What do you know?

 
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JustysiaS
  Jan 12, 08, 13:20  #12

Michal wrote:
How do you know? Who says that I am even married? What do you know?


you said you were married and that your wife never takes you to poland because you always complain. did she finally divorce you?? well done her!

 
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Shawn_H
  Jan 12, 08, 13:20  #13

Michal wrote:
Yesterday my wife was watching Polonia television and even she complained. No longer do they say warsztat sztuczny but now they say 'workshopy'!!


 
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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Jan 12, 08, 13:23  #14

Kmiot, aren't you getting tired ? It's nor funny neither irritating after someone saw It hundreds of times, It just shows how fecked up you must be.

 
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Michal
  Jan 12, 08, 13:25  #15

Grzegorz_ wrote:

Kmiot, aren't you getting tired ? It's nor funny neither irritating after you saw It hundreds of times, It just shows how fecked u

This topic has been discussed to death-wystarczy!

 
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Grzegorz_
  Jan 12, 08, 13:30  #16

Michal wrote:
wystarczy


No. Dude, you need professional help, I'm not kidding.

 
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JustysiaS
  Jan 12, 08, 13:32  #17

he thinks that he is anonymous here because its the internet

 
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Michal
  Jan 12, 08, 13:33  #18

Grzegorz_ wrote:
No. Dude, you need profe

For a start, you are not American, you are Polish. Your bad grammar gives you away. I am certainly not your 'dude', you do not even know what the word means. If you continue to be rude and personal you may get another ban. Teraz koniec.

 
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Lady in red [Guest]
  Jan 12, 08, 13:38  #19

Michal wrote:
If you continue to be rude and personal you may get another ban.


Thta's surely got to be more applicable to you BECAUSE you are mostly rude and very offensive to Polish people and to quite a few posters on here....... do you actually understand what you write or are you on some sort of drugs or medication ?

 
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z_darius
  Jan 12, 08, 13:44  #20

Michal wrote:
If you continue to be rude and personal you may get another ban.

To be rude he would have to learn much more from you, chamie!
Słomę w twoich butach az przez Atlantyk czuć.
(I can smell the straw in your shoes all the way across the Atlantic, you boor)

 
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Grzegorz_
  Jan 12, 08, 13:54  #21

Michal wrote:
For a start, you are not American, you are Polish.


O RLY ?

Michal wrote:
Your bad grammar gives you away.


My English grammar is definately better than your Polish. Anyone, who saw your "translations" would agree with that.

Michal wrote:
I am certainly not your 'dude'


I know and I know what you are but I tried to be nice.


Michal wrote:
If you continue to be rude and personal you may get another ban.


Scary...

 
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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy  Jan 12, 08, 14:03  #22

Having lived in Poland for two years I can safely state that Polish people are not as smart as English or western European people. I have met many a Polish wannabe entrepeuner but unfortunately their ideas fall some what short of the mark. After dealing with highly so called eductaed Poles on a day to day basis it really is a breath of fresh air to have a UK investor visit and generally do business with non Poles to bring me back to reality and restore faith in the EU society.

Polish people are well educated without a doubt, I believe it is brainwashed into them at an early age by thier parents to study, study, study or you will not amount to anything. This is the case in Poland, if you do not have a degree you WILL clean toilets period. On the whole in my opinion English people and certainly Western Europeans are better educated in the cultures of life and not just a university school book on Chopin or Darwins theories of relativity thus creating the drive and ambition required for success in the real world.

Polish kids doing well in the UK school system, of course they will.

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noimmigration
  Jan 12, 08, 14:09  #23

give a pole a universiry education and he willstill crawl to britain to clean our toilets. education is wasted on the poles

 
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scarbyirp
  Jan 12, 08, 14:18  #24

noimmigration wrote:
education is wasted on the poles


It was certainly wasted on you, you thick hun tw@t

 
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southern
  Jan 12, 08, 14:21  #25

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Having lived in Poland for two years I can safely state that Polish people are not as smart as English or western European people


In my opinion they are often smarter.

 
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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Jan 12, 08, 14:22  #26

Guess who's back, back again? Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back?! A bit of info noimmigration. The value of the pound has dropped. 1 pound is 4.8 złoty now so many Poles are talking about heading home. It was 6.2 złoty in 2005. Cleaning toilets will get them even less now. I did a CPE class yesterday and my student reckons that the British government is actually paying out more than ur figures would suggest. Back to the thread, many Polish kids are sharp, the teachers here say so anyway. I know some personally and they are cluey

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Jan 12, 08, 14:22  #27

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
After dealing with highly so called eductaed Poles on a day to day basis it really is a breath of fresh air to have a UK investor visit and generally do business with non Poles to bring me back to reality and restore faith in the EU society.

it is related to the fact that Polish people are still learning to do bussiness with the Western people. Just because you don't like and have a problem in dealing with Polish bussiness people does not put them into a category of unskilled bussinessmen - there is a culture differance and I know some really smart Polish bussiness people - my sister is one of them and she is doing very well trading with Germans and French - so.....
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
On the whole in my opinion English people and certainly Western Europeans are better educated in the cultures of life

western type of life - which I think is not a big loss in general for Poland since not all the western values are that good even for westerners;). I would not call a value lack of good manners for eg, which you haven't showned yet, so perhaps the eucation of so called life in general is not that beneficial for you after all.

 
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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Jan 12, 08, 14:26  #28

noimmigration wrote:
give me a universiry education and I willstill crawl on all fours and stink like dirty toilets. education is wasted on me


 
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scarbyirp
Edited by: scarbyirp  Jan 12, 08, 14:30  #29

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
I can safely state that Polish people are not as smart as English


Bollix

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Jan 12, 08, 14:32  #30

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Polish people are not as smart as English

You're talking about my trilby here!

scarbyirp wrote:
scarbyirp

IQ is bollox.

I'm not sure if I quoted noeducation properly. It must be my eyesight. I can't get close enough to its posts for the smell of sh!t.

 
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