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Wroclaw Boy
  Jan 12, 08, 16:01  #31

miranda wrote:
it is related to the fact that Polish people are still learning to do bussiness with the Western people.

NO, Polish people are learning on how to make money legitametly instead of lying and cheating their way to an extra few bucks.

miranda wrote:
there is a culture differance and I know some really smart Polish bussiness people

Yes the liars and the not so bad liars. I know them too, funny thing is they dont think we know they are lying, we were pulling those tricks before WWI.

CAVEMEN, Savages.

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miranda
  Jan 12, 08, 16:04  #32

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
CAVEMEN, Savages.

I disagree, but I grew up in Poland, so many things don't seem to bother me.

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southern
  Jan 12, 08, 16:07  #33

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
CAVEMEN, Savages.


They pull their women from the hair publicly.

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isthatu
  Jan 12, 08, 16:10  #34

southern wrote:
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
CAVEMEN, Savages.


They pull their women from the hair publicly.

No they peddle their cars with their feet through the floor

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impamiiz
  Jan 12, 08, 16:17  #35

OT:

lol Michal cracks me the F**k up. How do people take him seriously? Lulz

Anywho, my best friend was Polish, she was the one who introduced me to "polishness" and well... I guess I didn't even acknowledge Poland as a country before then.

So anyway, she was very intelligent, articulate, quick-thinking, had been here for about 6 years (we were in college), and she was studying Chemistry, Biology, Psychology and Sociology A-levels with me.
She didn't do very well in the written exams due to the fact she was a) dyslexic and b) lost interest (she discovered the circus... I'm not making this up! good, quick, immediate money rather than years more of toiling in university). But she COULD'VE done.

I think Poles are more inclined to work or gain a skill than go into further education in the UK, am I wrong? Probably, most generalisations are wrong.

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Wroclaw Boy
  Jan 12, 08, 16:29  #36

impamiiz wrote:
was a) dyslexic

Dyslexia not recognised in Polish universities, they consider it a form of stupidity.

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isthatu
  Jan 12, 08, 16:32  #37

it was only recognised here a few years ago,trust me,I know,as you may guess from my posts lol
impamiiz wrote:
she was a) dyslexic and b) lost interest (she discovered the circus...

right,thats my next career move sorted then,lion tamer,or should that be lama tammer?

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southern
  Jan 12, 08, 16:33  #38

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Dyslexia not recognised in Polish universities


Maybe it is just a myth,a form of cheating as an english proffessor recently announced.

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isthatu
  Jan 12, 08, 17:00  #39

No mate,trust me,its no myth,what it is is a serious ball ache. I was tested for my reading age at 7, I had a reading age of 13 but I spell like a 6 year old,still. I can proof read pretty much anything an pick out the mistakes but when writing simple words such as their or feild I fek up,often starting words half way through,ie fway then adding hal to make halfway....its a larf though :)

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southern
  Jan 12, 08, 17:17  #40

isthatu wrote:
I had a reading age of 13 but I spell like a 6 year old,still. I can proof read pretty much anything an pick out the mistakes but when writing simple words such as their or feild I fek up


It can be reading disorder,not specifically dyslexia.

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telefonitika
  Jan 12, 08, 17:17  #41

isthatu wrote:
isthatu


my brother was kicked out of primary school and labelled a bully by the teacher who actually bullied him because at the time it wasnt recognised as a learning disability (thats what they call it)my now 22yr old brother has dyslexia and my youngest brother whose 15 has it as well ...

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Wroclaw Boy
  Jan 12, 08, 17:26  #42

southern wrote:
It can be reading disorder,not specifically dyslexia.

See what I mean, bloody Savages they dont believe in Dyslexia cos dey dont Deen Dold Dit By De Govenor. Doh, Dah. How many thousand bricks do want lifetd do dere. Do dwat dat.......Do Do I need to be told what to do.. Cos I dick.

EU is in full integration now shouldn't take much longer than 15 years, the EU HOPE'S!!!! To tame these wild dogs.

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osiol
Edited by: osiol  Jan 12, 08, 17:31  #43

My brother was told by most of his teachers that he was stupid. He was put into the bottom set with the other kids who were slow, stupid, lazy, traumatised or dyslexic. One science teacher recognised what his problem was (not a teacher of English).

He now has a phd and spells well only with a lot of hard work and spell-checkers. He sometimes texts me and asks me if we'd like to go out for a bear. I usually say yes because he earns enough to pay more than what is really his fair share of drinks!

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southern
Edited by: southern  Jan 12, 08, 18:17  #44

There was a recent survey by an english proffessor who almost demolished the case of dyslexia and made some interesting observations.

URL

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osiol
  Jan 12, 08, 18:26  #45

southern wrote:
almost demolished the case of dyslexia

Dyslexia seems to be an umbrella term to describe more than one condition. My brother's spelling is atrocious, but that's not from a lack of reading, short attention span, hyperactivity, bad short term memory or any of the other things mentioned in the article.

It does look as though money is thrown at the symptoms rather than the causes.

I have also read that there is more dyslexia amongst English-speakers than with speakers of languages with more phonetic alphabets. We know that if you read a Polish word, when you know the rules, you can be pretty sure how it should sound, which is not the case with English.

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southern
  Jan 12, 08, 18:30  #46

osiol wrote:
Dyslexia seems to be an umbrella


Exactly.It is an umbrella.If there happens any thorough scientific research many people will start screaming.

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z_darius
  Jan 12, 08, 19:47  #47

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Having lived in Poland for two years I can safely state that Polish people are not as smart as English or western European people.

Being not so sharp is one thing, but being as smart as you, and still marrying a dumbass is... well, stupid.

Now that we have established your own intellectual deficiencies, do you still feel you are in a position to say who is smart and who is not?

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Davey
Edited by: Davey  Jan 12, 08, 21:26  #48

Poland's education system is a lot more intense and less slack than in North America, i'm not sure about the UK though.

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Michal
  Jan 13, 08, 07:17  #49

Parrot fashion education where you get the pupil to cram facts from an early age was always the Russian way of doing things. There are advantages and disadvantages to this. In England the primary education system tried to get away from all this and would not even teach the times tables. Now, some of this former rote learning has come back in to fashion. Learning off by heart is one reason why Poles and Russians are not very good at the post graduate level because they are not taught to think for themselves and are therefore unable to create self though, simply a must in Msc and especially Phd study areas.

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Krzysztof
  Jan 13, 08, 14:37  #50

Michal wrote:
Russians are not very good at the post graduate level because they are not taught to think for themselves


FINALLY, Michal wrote something I can sign under with my both hands :)

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lennyd [Guest]
  Jan 13, 08, 18:28  #51

to many polish kids disrupting our own kids education , u don't see any english kids in poland but you see polish kids in english schools but the pollocks say there better than us ? how is this plausable ?

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scarbyirp
  Jan 13, 08, 18:33  #52

lennyd wrote:
to many polish kids disrupting our own kids education , u don't see any english kids in poland but you see polish kids in english schools but the pollocks say there better than us ? how is this plausable ?


Obviously, your education was disrupted a long time before any Poles came to England(whats a pollock anyway?). Get back to the BNP website were you belong with other poorly educated, bigoted mouth breathers.

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osiol
  Jan 13, 08, 18:50  #53

scarbyirp wrote:
whats a pollock anyway

A work by the famous 20th century American abstract expressionist painter, noted for his method of 'action painting' can be described as a Pollock. Only lennyd, unlike many of the BNP (Banque National de Paris) trolls, he doesn't use any capital latters (other only ever use capital letters because they are SHOUTING because they are having TEMPER TANTRUMS like spoilt children who have been told they have to go to their room because they wouldn't eat their CABBAGE).

So without a capital P, I can't answer that.

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Eurola
  Jan 13, 08, 21:59  #54

Miserable trolls - here is a fragment from a URL posted earlier (with all my respect to British friends)

lol.

"The French scored 94. But it is not all good news. Top of the table were the Germans, with an IQ of 107. The British were also beaten by the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Austria and Switzerland"

Can anybody even imagine what they (trolls) would think about themselves, if the Brits topped the list? No wonder they are 'scared" of Polish 'invasion" of UK. They know, they can not match their smarts even with a toilet cleaner...

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Ozi Dan
  Jan 13, 08, 23:57  #55

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Having lived in Poland for two years I can safely state that Polish people are not as smart as English or western European people.


I'm half Polish but I'd hazard a guess to say I'm probably smarter than some and I'd even go so far as to say I'm probably smarter than you. Improbable you say? Try me out - I challenge you - you may even learn something. Pick a topic and lets discuss it. If I dont hear back from you we'll all simply assume that you agree with me and you're not up for it.

noimmigration wrote:
give a pole a universiry education and he willstill crawl to britain to clean our toilets. education is wasted on the poles


The above assertion and challenge goes to you too my 'learned friend'! I'll go easier on you though as you're just a student. A good student always has capacity to learn!! LOL

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Jan 14, 08, 00:27  #56

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Wroclaw Boy


I remember your face form your profile ... maybe one day I will met you ... and we will see ... or I will call you (you posted some adds here) there is something in this stories about complexes ... Wroclaw Boy (businessman) who bought falts in Poland on the peak assimilated Jew learning Jews form Israel what does it mean to be Jew. And no immigration ... no comment.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Jan 14, 08, 01:01  #57

I think I understand opinion about UK on continental europe and Ireland "the most ignorant/arogant people in EU"

as to PL people who work hard in foreign countries ... they buy flats (why not in great UK) and and invest money here ... in 10 years time they will be back and will be owners and no immigration will clean his toilets himself will rent his flat form pakistan people who I prefer more than him. as to culture ... who adpots English culture there ... nobody Indian have their Pakistan people have their so I don't think it is attractive ... it is just place to make money.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Jan 14, 08, 02:04  #58

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Wroclaw Boy


moaning about racist USA ... pfffffff sending me private messages and asking me where he can find Jewish gold (LOL) ...

nazi

I prefer Russians and Germans ... and Gipsies

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abcde [Guest]
  Jan 14, 08, 13:44  #59

English school kids are not dumb. Thats a horrible thing to say. Pitting one nationality of children against each other. Also english kids don't grow up and think 'Oh I'll get a job just because I am English.' They still have to work for it. Why do you hate English children so much?

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isthatu
  Jan 15, 08, 14:35  #60

lukasz,at heart your a nasty,bitter little man arnt you.
Lukasz wrote:
I remember your face form your profile ... maybe one day I will met you ... and we will see

see what,more open threats of violance?
Lukasz wrote:
assimilated Jew learning Jews form Israel what does it mean to be Jew.

Where are you going with this herr obergruppentruppen lukaSSz?
Lukasz wrote:
himself will rent his flat form pakistan people

and whats wrong with that,you rascist slime.
Lukasz wrote:
who adpots English culture there ... nobody Indian have their Pakistan people have

apart from an initial WDF does that stream of vagualy english words mean....Just what do you know about British Asians? How many have you met? Did you go to school with any,work with any,any contact at all with any?
Lukasz wrote:
it is just place to make money.

only for parasites,are you a parasite lukaSSz? no,you havnt been to the UK,oh,theres a surprise......
Lukasz wrote:
I prefer Russians and Germans ... and Gipsies

Oh ,how terribly enlightened you are,humanitarian awards all round. Sorry,you say you prefer the Germans,yet you show a pic of a drunk German wearing a swastika,whats all that about?

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