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Will Polish names eventually become popular in the UK?


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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Dec 28, 07, 16:21  #1

Do you think that with the large influx of Polish people into UK society that in the next few years Polish names might be more commonly used by British parents when naming new born babies?


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adelina
  Dec 28, 07, 16:25  #2

mmmm
i dont think so, some are quite hard to pronounce
i think they will stick with polish families.

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PinkJewel
  Dec 28, 07, 16:38  #3

adelina wrote:
i dont think so, some are quite hard to pronounce


OK. Fair point. What about the easier ones though? There are many Polish names I would consider for my eventual child. I've also considered an English forename and a more difficult to pronounce Polish name for the middle name.


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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 16:41  #4

PinkJewel wrote:
Do you think that with the large influx of Polish people into UK society that in the next few years Polish names might be more commonly used by British parents when naming new born babies?


Polish Brits have a long way to go yet. I read the other day that Mohamed is now the most popular boys name in England.

The influence of names seems unpredictable to me. I think it's possible that British people might choose a name with a variation in spelling. But what do you do when the alphabet doesn't allow the name ? You just rely on the English version.
One or two names translate to old fashioned English names [Agnes.. for example]
And how would these names get chopped and changed in the school playground ?


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adelina
  Dec 28, 07, 16:43  #5

well yah some polish names are absolutely beautiful and the ones that are easier to say
will probably be used, its kind of like the large number of hispanics in the united states.
There are so many but you dont see many americans giving their children spanish names.
its not that the names aren't nice, and many are very easy to pronounce but they are
also really cultural.

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noimmigration
  Dec 28, 07, 16:51  #6

Wroclaw wrote:
Polish Brits have a long way to go yet. I read the other day that Mohamed is now the most popular boys name in England.


you mean amongst muslims.

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Seanus
  Dec 28, 07, 17:07  #7

I'm sure that a Paul wouldn't mind calling himself Pawel. They could become popular


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telefonitika
  Dec 28, 07, 17:19  #8

Kasia is a name is circulation among british families as to is the name Asia (my former stepmum's daughter to her current non polish british husband has this name)

:)


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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Dec 28, 07, 17:28  #9

Wroclaw wrote:
But what do you do when the alphabet doesn't allow the name ? You just rely on the English version.


Hmm this is true. Then again, spellings can change and the name can still be Polish without reverting to the English version, can't it?

telefonitika wrote:
Kasia


I like this name and it's one I would consider.

The name Christina is not a name I would consider for my child but the name Krystyna is. Seems a bit strange but I prefer the Polish version.


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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 18:49  #10

Strange. Krystyna is what you might expect someones mother to be called.

Many young women called Kasia actually don't like their name, because it's too common.
I've even known one person change her name from Kasia because she hated it so much.

I'm sure there are those who beg to differ.


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Polson
  Dec 28, 07, 18:58  #11

telefonitika wrote:
Kasia


Keysha :) Doesn't it already exist ?...


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telefonitika
  Dec 28, 07, 19:05  #12

Polson wrote:
Keysha :) Doesn't it already exist ?...


Both do Polson Keysha and Kasia (my daughter has a school friend british english with Kasia as her 1st name)


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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 19:08  #13

Kasia... Katarzyna... Catherine

In England the name Kasia will just get shortened to 'Kash'


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Polson
  Dec 28, 07, 19:11  #14

telefonitika wrote:
Both do Polson Keysha and Kasia (my daughter has a school friend british english with Kasia as her 1st name)


I know that Kasia exists, i know at least one Polish friend called Kasia...I thought i invented Keysha though ;) LoL
This British girl called Kasia, how do people pronounce it as it is still uncommon in Britain ? [keysha] or [kah-sha] or [keyża] ("ż" like the "s" in "usual"...)

:)


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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Dec 28, 07, 19:16  #15

Wroclaw wrote:
In England the name Kasia will just get shortened to 'Kash'


If you allow it to be shortened. I know people with names such as Robert or Madeline who won't allow their names to be shortened. If I named my child Kasia then that is what they would be called. If I call her Krystyna they will be known as that. Different when they become older as a teenager or something.

Wroclaw wrote:
Strange. Krystyna is what you might expect someones mother to be called.


That's what I mean though. Can these names take off in UK culture even though they may be considered "old" in Polish culture. They are new to UK culture.

Interesting I would consider "Christina" as a name a Mother may be called...


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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Dec 28, 07, 19:21  #16

:) I'm Kasia and many of my Polish friends my age are Kasia. Americans spell my name in many ways, most popular is Kasha, Kasa, Kasya... I don't like to be called an English version of my name, like Kate or Kathy... Yes, my name is popular in Poland but no, I don't want to change it. It's my name since I was born, so it would be weird to use a different one...
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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 19:27  #17

PinkJewel,

I see a problem. Kasia is not a name it is a short form. So the British would be using foreign names without understanding them and turning them into something new.
Or is this a good thing ? maybe yes.

The same thing happened when Elton John sang about Nikita and there was a French film with a woman called Nikita.
It's a nice name, but it's a mans name.


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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Dec 28, 07, 19:29  #18

Wroclaw wrote:
Kasia is not a name it is a short form.

Kasia=Ka¶ka=Katarzyna

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plk123
  Dec 28, 07, 19:32  #19

a name it is a short form.

there are plenty of joes, bills and petes around, no?


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PinkJewel
  Dec 28, 07, 19:32  #20

Wroclaw wrote:
I see a problem. Kasia is not a name it is a short form.


Yes I know this but it's similar to how Kate has become a name in it's own right although it derives from Catherine/Katherine. Kasia has become a name in it's own right.

polishgirltx wrote:

:) I'm Kasia and many of my Polish friends my age are Kasia. Americans spell my name in many ways, most popular is Kasha, Kasa, Kasya... I don't like to be called an English version of my name, like Kate or Kathy... Yes, my name is popular in Poland but no, I don't want to change it. It's my name since I was born, so it would be weird to use a different one...
:


One of my favourite names :) So it's your birth name or the shortened version of your birth name but Kasia was always used? You shouldn't use an English version of your name when Kasia is you actual name :) I have seen it spelled as Kasha here.

I think Kasia can become a popular name for British parents.


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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Dec 28, 07, 19:35  #21

PinkJewel wrote:
So it's your birth name or the shortened version of your birth name but Kasia was always used?

My birth name is Katarzyna, but everybody calls me Kasia...
PinkJewel wrote:
You shouldn't use an English version of your name when Kasia is you actual name :)

Many has tried, but i stick with Kasia ;)

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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 19:39  #22

plk123 wrote:
there are plenty of joes, bills and petes around, no?


Yes, but many of them have the full form on their birth cert.

I don't mind if people chop and change names. If that's what they want and it's legal...good for them.

I just think it's wise to find out more about a name before you use it.


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Polson
  Dec 28, 07, 19:39  #23

polishgirltx wrote:
Kasia


Swedes (and other Skandis i guess) have the name Kajsa...

Okay, time has come to go ;) LoL

Good night everyone :)


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plk123
  Dec 28, 07, 19:41  #24

Wroclaw wrote:

Yes, but many of them have the full form on their birth cert.

in america many, and i mean MANY, have the short as their proper name.. i have also known a few individuals that had just initials as their legal names.


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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Dec 28, 07, 19:42  #25

polishgirltx wrote:
Many has tried, but i stick with Kasia ;)


You should. It's a nice name, as is your birth name. It's why I think these names can become popular in UK culture. I know that if I have children (haha) I want them to have unique names and not follow a trend. My sister and I both have unique names and throughout school we were the only ones with our names. Still in our workplaces we have unique names.

So although if I were to give a child a Polish name is would be unique, I still wonder if names like Kasia, Jacek etc can become popular in UK.

Wroclaw wrote:
I just think it's wise to find out more about a name before you use it.


Yes I completely agree with this. This should be done with any name of course.


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Wroclaw
  Dec 28, 07, 19:51  #26

PinkJewel wrote:
Kasia has become a name in it's own right.


Not in Poland. The registrar would never accept it.

The law only changed here a few years ago to allow foreign names. And then you have extra paperwork. The foreign name must have a Polish equivalent.


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PinkJewel
  Dec 28, 07, 20:04  #27

Wroclaw wrote:

Not in Poland. The registrar would never accept it.

The law only changed here a few years ago to allow foreign names. And then you have extra paperwork. The foreign name must have a Polish equivalent.


Fair enough. Generally though, I'm asking about UK.

Maybe this is why many Poles are called "Kasia" as a nickname, it may have been their proper name had it been allowed.

Aside though...what if the foreign name didn't have a Polish equivalent?


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z_darius
  Dec 28, 07, 21:15  #28

PinkJewel wrote:
I think Kasia can become a popular name for British parents.

for a native English speaker this might be too close to kasha. The word is also present in Polish as kasza.


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telefonitika
  Dec 29, 07, 05:24  #29

Polson wrote:
British girl called Kasia

Polson wrote:
pronounce it as

Polson wrote:
[kah-sha]


:D


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Polson
  Dec 29, 07, 05:37  #30

Thanks Telefonitika ;)


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