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Kilkline
  Nov 10, 07, 17:06  #31

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It seems to have gone the other way now in the Polish media. Apparently any stories involving negative experiences of Poles in Britain are well publicised so as to discourage anymore of them from leaving. Some dont believe the hype, most do.


- Is it good that the Polish hacks publish those stories and many Poles 'believe the hype,' or is it bad? I'm asking, because the tone of your post seems to be slightly condemning.


Such stories should be published however making them the centrepiece of the news is unbalanced and illustrates an intended bias. A murder of a Pole in England will make the front page in the Polish media.
A murder by a Pole will not.
The murder of a Pole in Poland will not.
Other murders of people in Britain will not.
There is a filter being utilised to make it appear as though Poles are continual victims of brutality by faceless 'others'.
Contrast this with the recent murder of an English girl in Italy or with the case of Maddie McCann in Portugal. The British meda, for all there faults, never tried claiming that the victim's nationality was a contributing or in anyway relevant factor in their deaths.
Is this the case with those Polish victims of violence in Britain?

 
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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Nov 10, 07, 18:08  #32

Quoting: Kilkline
Such stories should be published however making them the centrepiece of the news is unbalanced and illustrates an intended bias. A murder of a Pole in England will make the front page in the Polish media.
A murder by a Pole will not.
The murder of a Pole in Poland will not.
Other murders of people in Britain will not.
There is a filter being utilised to make it appear as though Poles are continual victims of brutality by faceless 'others'.
Contrast this with the recent murder of an English girl in Italy or with the case of Maddie McCann in Portugal. The British meda, for all there faults, never tried claiming that the victim's nationality was a contributing or in anyway relevant factor in their deaths.
Is this the case with those Polish victims of violence in Britain?


- To begin with, Kilkie, I have an extremely low opinion about media types, whether they are from Poland, or England or whatever. Mostly psychopathic compulsive liars and hate mongers - professional liars and rabble-rousers, that is. If you enter the media dump, you become human crap, even if you're the most decent person. It's similar as when you join the secret police of an oppressive regime: even if you're the best guy, you'll become a monster. The media psychos don't have any nationality; the nature of the media system makes them a wretched cosmopolitan motley. To me, the media braiwashing machine has been the essential factor behind all the oppressive regimes, such as communism, and the horrific wars in the last century and the present one. They are really a bunch of criminals, also war criminals, and thugs. Mankind will never progress as long as the destructive power of this psychological weapon is not curtailed. But I digress. So because I have a strong contempt for the media, I haven't been quoting the psychos from Poland scribbling about Polish life in the UK. Yet I can assure you that what they babble about isn't even half as hateful as the crap that the media psychopaths in UK babble about Poles and Poland. When I say this, it's not any national fanaticism on my part; I'm just stating a simple fact. I have never encountered any news on the alleged British abuses being presented in the, ahem, 'Polish' media as the main headline or story - not yet.

As for the alleged - may I call it national neutrality? - of the 'British' media e.g. in the case of the Mc Canns, well, my own impression is that some of them, especially total rags such as The Sun, have been giving a strongly xenophobic coverage. I don't believe their nationalism to be honest; I see it as a psychopathic manipulation of national emotions in order to generate high sales - and any adverse national sentiment sells well.

Don't defend the media psychopaths in your country out of national solidarity. You shouldn't have such solidarity with them. They are not really part of your nation and of you. The sooner you and more other people become aware of this, the better for the world, for all of us.

 
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Kilkline
  Nov 10, 07, 18:47  #33

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Don't defend the media psychopaths in your country out of national solidarity. You shouldn't have such solidarity with them.


I dont. My point stands however.

 
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Puzzler
  Nov 11, 07, 06:42  #34

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I dont. My point stands however


- I'm glad you don't. But what point do you have in mind? That the hacks in Poland give front page coverage to the (relatively infrequent, actually) abuses of Poles in UK? Well, they don't appear to do that, but if they will, then I don't think the generally positive image of the Brits in Poland should get strongly tarnished as a result. Besides, in Poland there are numerous Anglo- and Britophiles, like myself. We'll never let hurt you. ;)

 
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Kilkline
  Nov 12, 07, 13:25  #35

Quoting: Puzzler

Quote . Yesterday, 06:42 | #34

Quoting: Kilkline
I dont. My point stands however


- I'm glad you don't. But what point do you have in mind? That the hacks in Poland give front page coverage to the (relatively infrequent, actually) abuses of Poles in UK? Well, they don't appear to do that, but if they will, then I don't think the generally positive image of the Brits in Poland should get strongly tarnished as a result. Besides, in Poland there are numerous Anglo- and Britophiles, like myself. We'll never let hurt you. ;)



Everything you say works both ways. Interchange the nations and nationalities you have mentioned above and the same is true.

 
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