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Do Polish people feel there is a danger of communism growing stong again?


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celinski
  Jan 29, 08, 09:54  #31

Sometimes we must just step back and laugh.





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outintheyard
  Jan 29, 08, 10:12  #32

Celinsky You are A'OK that is good

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celinski
  Jan 29, 08, 10:19  #33

You will love this one. Laughter makes us grow.




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hairball
  Jan 29, 08, 10:41  #34

and You voted for this guy? Twice.


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celinski
  Jan 29, 08, 10:52  #35

hairball wrote:
and You voted for this guy?


No, I can say I never voted for Pres. Bush. But you must admit I bet he would be a blast to have at a party. It reminds us that they are people just like us, they make mistakes and they are human.


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BubbaWoo
  Jan 29, 08, 10:55  #36

what did he say... fool you once shame on you, fool you twice shame on you again

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Zgubiony
Edited by: Zgubiony  Jan 29, 08, 10:58  #37

BubbaWoo wrote:
what did he say

"There's an old...saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says Fool me once...Shame on...Shame on you....Fool me...Can't get fooled again."

classic ;)



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BubbaWoo
  Jan 29, 08, 11:00  #38

but he managed to fool the american public twice... shame on them :-P

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hairball
  Jan 29, 08, 11:56  #39

BubbaWoo wrote:
but he managed to fool the american public twice... shame on them :-P


That's a good point Bubba!


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southern
  Jan 29, 08, 13:01  #40

West hates the fact that Putin uses both western and communistic methods making it difficult to react to his strategy.

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szkotja2007
Edited by: szkotja2007  Jan 29, 08, 13:06  #41

Putin Vs Bush

( Hey admin - can you re-size the Bush photo for me? Thanks ! )

Putin Fishing
Putin Fishing
Bush_Fishing_Norlean.jpg
Bush_Fishing_Norlean.jpg


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Seanus
  Jan 29, 08, 17:13  #42

Can u imagine Putin being called Bush? Putin the Bush. Communism will not rise up again for a very long time


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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Jan 29, 08, 18:06  #43

lesser wrote:
This internationalism cause that they are closer to communism theory than Putin in my opinion. I have lived under communism and now I live under Brussels bureaucracy. If you disagree then share with me your arguments.

putin is a de facto dictator.


outintheyard wrote:

The US is called in the closet socialism

US isn't even close to socialism.


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southern
  Jan 29, 08, 18:07  #44

Can you imagine Bush becoming communist if Putin catches more fish after a bet?

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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Jan 29, 08, 18:23  #45

hairball wrote:
and You voted for this guy? Twice.

technically it was a 4:3 vote the first time as fla folks can't punch a piece of paper.

the second time around.. well, who knows.. buckyes are nuts. :D

besides americans' votes don't actually count anyway... look into electoral collage sometime.


celinski wrote:
Laughter makes us grow.

i surely won't miss that foker..



celinski wrote:

Sometimes we must just step back and laugh.


a true slav who didn't hide his love of drinking. :)

go boris


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celinski
  Jan 29, 08, 18:58  #46

plk123 wrote:
a true slav who didn't hide his love of drinking. :)


I love happy people.


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outintheyard
  Jan 30, 08, 06:16  #47

Ah yes keeping people happy. The key to control. Agood government keeps the masses happy It is the better way Less cahnce of revolt. You don't here much revoting in the US We are all happy people. If we don't like our house or can't pay for our stuff, We burn it and let insurance pay for it

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celinski
  Jan 30, 08, 06:33  #48

outintheyard wrote:
Ah yes keeping people happy


I also like to believe my voice is heard. In the USA this is difficult.


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southern
  Jan 30, 08, 06:55  #49

celinski wrote:
In the USA this is difficult.


In Europe it is impossible.

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RussianEmp
  Jan 30, 08, 06:57  #50

Russians don't want communism so there will be no communism

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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Jan 30, 08, 07:04  #51

plk123 wrote:
putin is a de facto dictator.


Putin would win elections if he decided to compete. You will say that he control mainstream media. Yes he does. How the EU bureaucracy is different? In other thread in this section I'm exposing true face of their "democracy". Pro-EU propaganda is not worse than Putinist for sure. I don't remember any anti-EU programs in Polish public TV or mainstream private media like Polsat or TVN. This is already became comical, I watch little TV but every time I do what I see? Nearly every commercial break in these TV stations is filled with pro-EU advert, the message is that thanks to their cash Poland will become Eldorado. Recently I noticed these spots even on "Extreme Sport" channel that probably few people watch. This propaganda campaign cost fortune and is financed by money from European taxpayers, no matter what they think about the EU. Both in Russia and the EU people opposed to these regimes can communicate via small media outlets not subsidized by the EU. This is clearly a tie between both regimes on this issue.


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celinski
  Jan 30, 08, 07:19  #52

lesser wrote:
"Extreme Sport"


This would be to target the younger voters.


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southern
Edited by: southern  Jan 30, 08, 07:20  #53

lesser wrote:
EU people opposed to these regimes can communicate via small media outlets not subsidized by the EU.


In EU if you disagree with basic directions of policy you get marginalized.If you want to get heard you have first to agree with every basic requirement.
There is always the call to public opinion.For example do you lesser represent the public opinion?Do you represent the average person?
If you find the average person I will be glad to confront him.

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celinski
  Jan 30, 08, 07:21  #54

southern wrote:
marginalized.If you want to get heard you have first to agree with every basic requirement.



Then what, you can propose a differant direction?


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southern
  Jan 30, 08, 07:23  #55

celinski wrote:



Then what, you can propose a differant direction?


You cannot doubt the founds of the system.It is not like USA.There are tight rules you cannot disobey.

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celinski
  Jan 30, 08, 07:28  #56

southern wrote:
There are tight rules you cannot disobey.


But you must have a way to change parts of the system? What was positive yesterday may not be the need for long term.


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southern
  Jan 30, 08, 07:29  #57

celinski wrote:


But you must have a way to change parts of the system? What was positive yesterday may not be the need for long term.


Very naive american thought.

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celinski
  Jan 30, 08, 07:32  #58

southern wrote:
Very naive american thought.



I assumed EU was alot like your version of NATO on a smaller scale? I have not spent much time looking into EU.


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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Jan 30, 08, 07:40  #59

southern wrote:
There is always the call to public opinion.For example do you lesser represent the public opinion?Do you represent the average person?
If you find the average person I will be glad to confront hi


Obviously you are right. Still this "call" is only eristic trick, they don't care about public opinion just realize policies planned long time ago.

celinski wrote:
I assumed EU was alot like your version of NATO on a smaller scale? I have not spent much time looking into EU.


This is not military alliance. Average citizen in the EU knows little about this organization. They will provide him only "what he does need to know" according to them. My advice is to take a look on this part "what he doesn't need to know".


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southern
Edited by: southern  Jan 30, 08, 07:47  #60

lesser wrote:
they don't care about public opinion just realize policies planned long time ago.


In fact they take the decision in Brussels,give governments directions to follow and government's role is to smoothen the reactions of public against them,to pass them unnoticed in every way possible to avoid massive confrontation.Of course all parties participate in the trick cause the benefits are obvious.

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