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robersts [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 11:27  #91

Wujek_Dobra_Rada

Dear wujek,
With your attitude I’d suggest getting laid immediately , you may feel better.
Best

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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 11:40  #92

Quoting: robersts, Post #93
Wujek_Dobra_Rada
Dear wujek,
With your attitude I’d suggest getting laid immediately , you may feel better.
Best


But before doing so I had hoped I could help you to overcome your disadvantages. Well, I like helping people and I can not do anything about it

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robersts [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 11:59  #93

Wujek_Dobra_Rada
Helping people is great, being arrogant and obnoxious prat is not, try to work on your defects and disadvantages in a positive way.
On a different matter now, the photo shots of pre war Warsaw are fascinating, do you have any more ?

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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada  Jul 26, 06, 12:16  #94

Quoting: robersts, Post #95
Helping people is great, being arrogant and obnoxious prat is not, try to work on your defects and disadvantages in a positive way.
On a different matter now, the photo shots of pre war Warsaw are fascinating, do you have any more ?


Well, I`ve only express the way that I could be more easily understood - and I`ve done that especially for you ..I guess that helping others is not so great - there`s simply no gratitude at the end.

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robersts [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 12:26  #95

Wujek_Dobra_Rada
thaks, I'ii consider your comments

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opts [Guest]
  Jul 28, 06, 19:01  #96

Yes, you are correct, "the United States hasn't been segregated since the 1960's ". I lived in Chicago for about 20 years, and Chicago is a segregated city.

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bambie [Guest]
  Jul 29, 06, 03:07  #97

Quoting: Shelley, Post #79
I think there are a lot of pre-misconceptions, and maybe if people visited Poland they'd see for themselves that it's a pretty damn fine place with nice people

you can apply this suggestion for yourself, go vist another countries, cuz there are a lot of like u said :"pre-misconceptions, and maybe if people visited x country they'd see for themselves that it's a pretty damn fine place with nice people" guess you don't even get your own quotes don't you?

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guest-iwona [Guest]
  Jul 29, 06, 06:10  #98

Yes, you are correct, "the United States hasn't been segregated since the 1960's ". I lived in Chicago for about 20 years, and Chicago is a segregated city.

After my short visit to USA my impression was that this is much racist country than old Europe.

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lef
  Jul 29, 06, 16:11  #99

Quoting: Shelley, Post #55
you contridicted yourself...I am English and proud to be so, I dont like Paki's they're over running my country


It is obvious that racism is well and alive in Britain, where have I heard similiar comments?? oh yeah in Germany in the 30's.. Forget about racism in Poland it is only small compared to British attitude.

I have known people who say they are good good catholics and front church every second day say similiar things about other countries


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rafik
  Jul 29, 06, 17:33  #100

Quoting: lef, Post #101

It is obvious that racism is well and alive in Britain, where have I heard similiar comments?? oh yeah in Germany in the 30's.. Forget about racism in Poland it is only small compared to British attitude

i think you are getting there lef,finally.at last you haven't said anything anti-polish.i agree there is some racism in poland but you have it in australia and western europe too.


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lef
  Jul 29, 06, 20:59  #101

Quoting: rafik, Post #102
some racism in poland but you have it in australia and western europe too


From my experience, I have never come across any racism in poland, however don't forget there arn't too many foreigners living pernamently in poland as in GB ,US0 US or Aust.

Quoting: rafik, Post #102
at last you haven't said anything anti-polish


If you want the best for Poland you must be critical, it dosn't mean your anti polish, quite the reverse, sorry


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rafik
  Jul 29, 06, 23:08  #102

Quoting: lef, Post #103
If you want the best for Poland you must be critical, it dosn't mean your anti polish, quite the reverse, sorry

i agree.i never said that poland is an idle place to live in but it is not the 3world country as you said in a few ocassions.there is still corruption,spending public money on private things,bad politics and even drunks there in poland btu not to degree you have said it is.that's all.
Quoting: lef, Post #103

From my experience, I have never come across any racism in poland, however don't forget there arn't too many foreigners living pernamently in poland as in GB ,US0 US or Aust.

i am a very good example


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truebrit
  Jul 30, 06, 02:35  #103

Quoting: lef, Post #101
Forget about racism in Poland it is only small compared to British attitude.


It should be small because there are very few black people,asians,africans,muslims in Poland.Listen,England is the 4th most crowded country in the world where different races live very closely together-not far apart like USA,Australia,New Zealand.Yes,you might hear some racist comments but the situation is much better here than any other European country(and better than Australia).

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guest-iwona [Guest]
  Jul 30, 06, 13:25  #104

It should be small because there are very few black people,asians,africans,muslims in Poland.Listen,England is the 4th most crowded country in the world where different races live very closely together-not far apart like USA,Australia,New Zealand.Yes,you might hear some racist comments but the situation is much better here than any other European country(and better than Australia).

is it ? I think that it is often your reserved upper-lip attitude. I think that british have sometimes problems in expressing yourselves ( especially in confronation situation) always smile on the face and moan behind back. I am not nasty or malicious just twhat I noticed. But yes England is so densy with people from all over the world. I live in peterborough and sometimes you get to city centre and struggle to hear people speaking English.
My friend has little child and she went to park last weekend - she said "I am not racist by park was full of foreign people i felt nearly intimidated in my own country"
She told me - you at least can go to Poland but me where I am to go it is my country?

I think taht if emigration will grow here so quickly british people will get more and more frustrated and one day just blow up.

I Poland- we don't have so many emigrants and I wouldn't say we are very rasist but yes you can sometimes hear some remarks.
We seem to be quite happy with visitors from west but not so much from east ( or Africa)

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truebrit
  Jul 30, 06, 14:43  #105

guest-iwona

Yes,I agree with most of what you say.The problem of course is with the government that has allowed this.

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Not Polish [Guest]
  Jul 30, 06, 15:33  #106

You are lucky you have so few africans and asians living in Poland, make sure you keep it that way, or they will bring all the problems of their own inferior cultures with them to Poland.

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rafik
  Jul 30, 06, 16:32  #107

Quoting: Not Polish, Post #108
You are lucky you have so few africans and asians living in Poland, make sure you keep it that way, or they will bring all the problems of their own inferior cultures with them to Poland.

we are fully aware of that,thanx.


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lef
  Jul 30, 06, 17:31  #108

Quoting: rafik, Post #104
agree.i never said that poland is an idle place to live in but it is not the 3world country as you said in a few ocassions.there is still corruption,spending public money on private things,bad politics and even drunks


I didn't mean a third world country literally as per United Nations definition.
I was meaning poland has a lot of way to go to get on level with western countries, The biggest problem as I see it is wages and conditons, wages need to be at least three times more. keep in mind some goods in poland are as expensive or more in Poland than overseas. working conditons, awards, and OH and Safety need to be established, once people have a affordable lifes lifestyle issues such as corruption, drunkedness will just dissipate.
One other area is improved social security ie unemployment benefits, the current system is totally inadequate, every person unemployed person should receive sufficient income support till such time he is employed, people not eligible for income support end up stealing, this becomes worse if he has a drug problem.


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truebrit
  Jul 30, 06, 17:43  #109

Quoting: guest-iwona, Post #106
I Poland- we don't have so many emigrants and I wouldn't say we are very rasist but yes you can sometimes hear some remarks.


According to the UN Britain has the highest percentage of mixed race marriages,relationships and children in the developed world so I guess we cannot be that racist.Perhaps when as many Polish women(in Poland) have black/asian husband and as many Polish men have black/asian wife as in Britain then you can say that Poland is no more racist than Britain.

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lef
  Jul 30, 06, 18:06  #110

Quoting: truebrit, Post #105
It should be small because there are very few black people,asians,africans,muslims in Poland.Listen,England is the 4th most crowded country in the world where different races live very closely together-not far apart like USA,Australia,New Zealand.Yes,you might hear some racist comments but the situation is much better here than any other European country(and better than Australia).



what utter nonsense, australia has a multi culteral population with very little racial tensions, unlike that of GB, do your homework before making outlandish statements.
All the people you knock were once part of the British Empire, it may be pay back time for the way England has treated these people?


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truebrit
  Jul 31, 06, 09:15  #111

Quoting: lef, Post #112
what utter nonsense, australia has a multi culteral population with very little racial tensions, unlike that of GB,


How many aboriginal people do you know? Why are there so few aboriginal/black MPs?Why are Australians who come to London surprised by how multicultural it is - more so than anywhere in Australia?When I watch Australian TV its only white faces and a few Chinese ones-unlike here.If you look at your neighbouring countries Australia should be far more multicultural.You have almost wiped out your black people(aboriginal Australians) and the riots between whites and arab australians - I guess that is your idea of racial harmony.

Quoting: lef, Post #112
do your homework before making outlandish statements.


Listen to your own advice.

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SuPeRuNkNoWn [Guest]
  Jul 31, 06, 13:37  #112

iīm a basque guy, and a lot of times people think that iīm a "latino" when itīs obvious that iīm not. Sometimes the ignorance becomes to racism. I have been in poland for 3 months and i have meet great people and stupid people. I saw racists there but not too much, i think that the racism in poland is the same comparing with my country. You can find this kind of people, and people who respect other ethnics. While i was in poland i saw people from asia and black guys, and they were having fun with polish people. To be honest i saw only a few people from this races and this is the reason why i think that people need more time to accustom to foreigners. I felt like at home with polish people so in my case i can say that i didnīt feel the racism in the streets. Maybe this problem is bigger in big cities like warsaw and krakow. i can only say that in podkarpackie where i have lived,isnīt a problem of racism.

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lef
  Jul 31, 06, 17:44  #113

Quoting: truebrit, Post #113
You have almost wiped out your black people(aboriginal Australians) and the riots between whites and arab australians - I guess that is your idea of racial harmony.


Remember the englishman in the name of the king/queen of england was the cause of all these problems,,, The Australian people have cleaned up there mess.
The poms have been the cause of many of the problems which have faced our society.
Remember Australian cities have been voted the most liveable cities in the world, (you carn't beat that?


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truebrit
  Aug 1, 06, 05:37  #114

Quoting: lef, Post #115
Remember the englishman in the name of the king/queen of england was the cause of all these problems


I saw that coming - just blame the English for your own problems.In the 1950s in England there were many black Carribbean people and Indian and Pakistani people -but until recently you had an all whites immigration policy in Australia.Even now you have virtually no black people - why? I guess black people look at what happens to black people in Australia and prefer somewhere less racist -like UK,USA,France,Poland etc.

Quoting: lef, Post #115
Remember Australian cities have been voted the most liveable cities in the world, (you carn't beat that?


Unless you are black.Australians are in denial about racism there.

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guest-iwona [Guest]
  Aug 1, 06, 14:18  #115

what utter nonsense, australia has a multi culteral population with very little racial tensions, unlike that of GB, do your homework before making outlandish statements.


wouldn't agree -firstly Australia is not so populated like England- density brings tension.
Secondly I don;t remember detatails but I was reading while ago about very aggresive rasist behaviour of white Australian towards Asians communities.


All the people you knock were once part of the British Empire, it may be pay back time for the way England has treated these people
?

I will probbaly get in trouble snow but I thought that Enhglish were sending all murderers, criminals to Australia - So what they are to pay back for? Sending there like on holiday? Does it mean that in Australia live now their children, grandchildren?

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guest-iwona [Guest]
  Aug 1, 06, 14:25  #116

I think that rasism is everythere we can;t help it.


Thinking about Poland we can be quite stubborn and proud of our culture. I think that our attitude is different tham some of western countries - we would allow any foreign people to live in our country if they learn our language and culture, just asimilate. I was thinking about Gipsies- there are lots of them living in dirt and poverty in Bulgaria, Slovakia, Romania- Not many in Poland Why? I think that about 30-40 years ago they were forced to stop travelling have proper addrsee send children to school. Some of them stayed I suppose lots of them didn't like it and move abroad.
I don't think it is intolerance just common sense. We would do the same probbaly with Muslims I can imagine court cases in Poland like in England about women- young girls being allowed to cover themselves

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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada  Aug 1, 06, 16:36  #117

Quoting: truebrit, Post #111
According to the UN Britain has the highest percentage of mixed race marriages,relationships and children in the developed world so I guess we cannot be that racist.Perhaps when as many Polish women(in Poland) have black/asian husband and as many Polish men have black/asian wife as in Britain then you can say that Poland is no more racist than Britain.


Perhaps you haven`t realized that but our country since its beginning, more than 1000 years ago had been created by immigrants from various parts of the World: Western Slavs (Poles, Silesians and Pomeranians), Jews, Tatars, Germans, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Dutch, Austrians, Scotts, Armenians, Slovaks, Greeks, Italians, Gypsies. Hungarians and the French - all Poles have some ancestors as well as familynames who originate in one or more of those nations who migrated here in the past.

That, what you can see when you look at our people is a result of intermarriage of people from various cultures and religions (this is actually one of the reasons why Hitler hated us - "we aren`t being racially pure").

That, what is happening in the UK, happened here long ago - not without its problems - but I`d say - all in all - it ended in a succes - and it certainly didn`t involved any appeasing or political correctness.

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Shelley [Guest]
  Aug 2, 06, 04:18  #118

Quoting: guest-iwona, Post #117
I will probbaly get in trouble snow but I thought that Enhglish were sending all murderers, criminals to Australia - So what they are to pay back for? Sending there like on holiday? Does it mean that in Australia live now their children, grandchildren?


That was a long time ago....

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Shelley [Guest]
  Aug 2, 06, 04:37  #119

Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #119
That, what is happening in the UK, happened here long ago - not without its problems - but I`d say - all in all - it ended in a succes - and it certainly didn`t involved any appeasing or political correctness.


I think that it's not a recent thing, Irish, Welsh, Scotish, French, Spanish and German herritage in this country - oh lets not forget the anglo saxons and the Romans that invaded Britain - the problem now is cultures that are here that will not integrate and are too different from the Western world.


Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #119
and it certainly didn`t involved any appeasing or political correctness.


I'm sure that there would have been some form of it about.

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truebrit
  Aug 2, 06, 04:47  #120

Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #119
That, what is happening in the UK, happened here long ago - not without its problems - but I`d say - all in all - it ended in a succes - and it certainly didn`t involved any appeasing or political correctness.


Actually,the same thing happened in Britain a long time ago.We had the Romans,Normans,Heugonots,French asylum seekers and even black people hundreds of years ago.By mixed race I do not mean Europeans marrying Europeans.Poland has never had a large influx of very different cultures like Africans,Asians or(worst of all)Muslims.We too had a policy of integraton until someone (Tony Blair etc)decided Muslims should get special treatment and be allowed segregration.

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