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plk123
  Sep 28, 07, 22:53  #91

Quoting: FISZ
Stalemate....



are you telling me we're not winning? ;) :D

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Kaczor Duck
  Sep 28, 07, 22:54  #92

Quoting: Eurola
President Reagan is my hero anyway!

Halleluja!!

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krysia
  Sep 28, 07, 23:14  #93

He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners.

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Patrycja19
  Sep 28, 07, 23:21  #94

Quoting: plk123
kinda as he is saying that people in the US tend to be rather racist. and i surely have to agree.


not any different then anywhere else in the world as it exists in every country
that holds a seperate nationality.

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Kaczor Duck
  Sep 29, 07, 08:51  #95

Quoting: krysia
He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners.

Krysia, wow, that airs it all out. I will have to say I agree, We had Binladen several times, but the way Liberals think that the world is all uner the same rules, they felt they did not have a legal precident to arrest him, What BS##, he bombed the Kole, his group was responsible for many US deaths before 9/11, unlike what a liberal may think, people who are not US citizens do not have the same rights afforded to by our constitution. I am so sick of this "can't we get along crap" They MURDERED our PEOPLE, WAKE UP AMERICA, they hate us and want you DEAD!!

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sledz
  Sep 29, 07, 11:14  #96

Quoting: krysia
Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots


and so his his wife..dont vote for Hillary:)

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sledz
  Sep 29, 07, 11:19  #97

theres been a Bush or Clinton in the white house for the last 25 years
sinse georgie 1 with Regan

its time for a fresh face

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krysia
  Sep 29, 07, 11:35  #98

I vote for President SledĽ!!!!!!

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 29, 07, 11:38  #99

Sledz for President! I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly!

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krysia
  Sep 29, 07, 11:43  #100

Quoting: Eurola
I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly!

lol!!!!
Free piwo to everybody. It'll be on the (white) house!

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 29, 07, 11:57  #101

Quoting: sledz
its time for a fresh face


Yes, it time for a fresh face and i hope we get one. There are a couple of candidates I would not mind to see in the White House, but it's too early to say. I think the next year will be interesting. I'm setting aside some old towels, I'll need them to wipe off the mud dripping off my TV screen.

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Kaczor Duck
  Sep 29, 07, 16:19  #102

Sledz Sledz hes our man if he cant do it no body can!!!

Yes forget ClintonCare we want Sledz Piwo!!!!!
PIWO PIWO PIWO!! Free PIWO!!

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sledz
  Sep 29, 07, 17:44  #103

That will be my platform a piwo in every house :)


Quoting: Eurola
I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly!

Yes indeed, amnesty for kobiety

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Kaczor Duck
  Sep 29, 07, 17:54  #104

Quoting: sledz
That will be my platform a piwo in every house :)



you got my vote!!!

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krysia
  Sep 29, 07, 23:19  #105

Quoting: sledz
That will be my platform a piwo in every house :)

And if you can't afford it, you get a goverment grant.

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 29, 07, 23:59  #106

And if one grant is not enough, then you get two, or three, or four, or a few grants to meet your needs and wants... :) Yeah.

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krysia
Edited by: krysia  Sep 30, 07, 00:02  #107

Right, as long as there's piwo in every citizen's house.
Glad I ain't running for president. I would make sure everyone has a dog in their home and if you're allergic, you get the mexican hairless.

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randompal
  Oct 2, 07, 11:03  #108

Quoting: plk123
what do you think of America?


Its a nation started by opportunisitc bankers who took a good (bad) example from other Europeans and smote the natives into submission (American Indians). As a liberal free-market domain it is run by banks and big business, and the will of the people is either disregarded or manipulated so that they themselves don't know what they want (example: healthcare). The women are fat and the men are clueless and arrogant and they love telling dumb-Polak jokes even though most of them couldn't find Poland on the map. (just generalising). Also, interestingly Americans are convinced that they are the only free"democracy" on the face of the Earth and have a duty to spread this good word to the rest of the poor ignorant masses around the globe. But other than that, it's a swell place, great people, but I wouldn't really want to live there.

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randompal
  Oct 2, 07, 11:10  #109

Quoting: 1st generation
most Americans want to fight the war on terror


Terror is a tactic not an enemy, and that's not liberal propaganda - it's simple logic, which I am a great fan of. Fighthing a war on terror is like fighting a war against bad haircuts. It's nothing more than an excuse to extend America's power and make a lot of money in the process. A loooooot of money. That's great that some Poles consider themselves "patriots" because Polish troop presence in Iraq gives them a boner. But if you don't see the parallels between the US invasion of Iraq and Hitler's invasion of Poland, then go open a history book (you don't even have to read between the lines...)

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Uncle Sam
  Oct 2, 07, 11:44  #110

OMG... the reason Hitler invaded other countries was "Lebensraum" or "living space" in order to expand the German population abroad. At least that made sense in a twisted way. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion. WMD's ???
Nope!!! Terror training camps??? Nope!!! A way to make Halliburton Corp. rich beyond Cheney's wildest dreams??? ----- A personal vendetta against Saddam by Bush??? (after all he DID say he would not rest until Bush the 1st was dead)
Nobody here wants to move to Iraq.... this is NOT an expansionist campaign, just a really stupid war waged for greed and revenge.
Power and money- you are correct.
Parallel to Hitler--- No way...this is wayyy worse!!!
PS Bush is definitely gunna go to hell and Hitler is saving him a seat.

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plk123
  Oct 2, 07, 12:04  #111

Quoting: krysia
He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners.



wow.. do you like snowballs?

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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Oct 2, 07, 12:06  #112

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
people who are not US citizens do not have the same rights afforded to by our constitution.



technically you may be right but if you don't then you're stooping to their level.. and that's not what america is all about.

and please.. they? who are they? they all don't want us dead.. you bought the shrubco bs hook, line and sinker too. please open your eyes and mind. you're giving america a bad name.

shrub is an idiot and one ofthe worst things to have happened to this great nation. it's going to take decades to fix all of this mess.

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plk123
  Oct 2, 07, 12:12  #113

Quoting: Uncle Sam
OMG... the reason Hitler invaded other countries was "Lebensraum" or "living space" in order to expand the German population abroad. At least that made sense in a twisted way. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion. WMD's ???
Nope!!! Terror training camps??? Nope!!! A way to make Halliburton Corp. rich beyond Cheney's wildest dreams??? ----- A personal vendetta against Saddam by Bush??? (after all he DID say he would not rest until Bush the 1st was dead)
Nobody here wants to move to Iraq.... this is NOT an expansionist campaign, just a really stupid war waged for greed and revenge.
Power and money- you are correct.
Parallel to Hitler--- No way...this is wayyy worse!!!
PS Bush is definitely gunna go to hell and Hitler is saving him a seat.


nope.. it's the great menaceand it's very much the same in both cases.. shrub = hitler in more ways then one.

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randompal
  Oct 2, 07, 16:52  #114

Quoting: Uncle Sam
Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion.


He did have a reason. One of them was oil. If you don't believe me, even Alan Greenspan recently came out of the closet and said it publicly. Iraq is a huge oil producer and the first thing the US did after it invaded was secure the Iraqi oil ministry, while Baghdad sank into lawlessness. The oil ministry was immediately privatized and sold off in chunks to BP, Exxon-Mobil, etc. The other reason, of course, is that there are billions if not trillions to be made in reconstructing in rebuilding a country that you have just spent months fcuking up.

Now, if you want some coffee-sipping reading, here are the parallels hinted at:

Before Hitler invaded Poland, he spent weeks moaning in public to the Gemran people about how terrible the Poles and the Polish govt. were, and how terribly the German minority in Poland was being treated (Then on the eve of the invasion, he staged a fake Polish army attack in Gliwice as a pretext for invasion, but I'm sure you knew that already). Sound familiar?

Hitler's officer corps gave their various military operations lofty names such as "Operation Free Europe" "Operation Swift Justice" and other absurdities. Sound familiar?

Polish resistance fighters were refered to as "terrorists" in the German press. Sound familiar?

Most of Hitler's sidekicks and generals had business interests in the military-industrial complex (such as Krupps, IG FARBEN, etc) and they directly profitted by invading countries and then rebuilding them. Cheney, Bush, Rummy, Wolfowitz and company all have stakes in companies that are VERY active in Iraq. Sound familiar?

The parallels go on and on. Hitler, like Bush, had dilusions of grandeur and both men were convinced that they are not only fighting to better their countries, but to better the world. Of course if you are a fan of Reagan or Bush, it doesn't make you a bad person, nor does it make you ignorant or stupid. In a free country you can support whoever you like. In Hitler's Germany, lots of academics, scholars, business leaders and other notables were convinced he was a lovable genius until the Red Army was at their doorsteps. Another future parallel? The dollar is now worth less than the Canadian Loonie and China is America's main creditor. I would worry...

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plk123
  Oct 2, 07, 20:33  #115

you forgot:

freedom

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krysia
  Oct 2, 07, 20:41  #116

Quoting: randompal
The parallels go on and on. Hitler, like Bush, had dilusions of grandeur and both men were convinced that they are not only fighting to better their countries, but to better the world. Of course if you are a fan of Reagan or Bush, it doesn't make you a bad person, nor does it make you ignorant or stupid. In a free country you can support whoever you like. In Hitler's Germany, lots of academics, scholars, business leaders and other notables were convinced he was a lovable genius until the Red Army was at their doorsteps. Another future parallel? The dollar is now worth less than the Canadian Loonie and China is America's main creditor. I would worry...

Such BS. Where are the concentration camps? Where are people transported in trains for mass murder? The ones that the US fights are the ones that want the American people dead. If the US did nothing, there would be more incidents like the 9/11.
You cannot compare one to another. It's Stupid.

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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Oct 2, 07, 20:43  #117

Quoting: krysia
Where are the concentration camps?

guantamo bay and all the other secret detention zones all over the world.

Quoting: krysia
Where are people transported in trains for mass murder?

abu ghraib


he didn't say bush is hitler 100% but he maybe 90% hitler.


sieg heil! :D

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krysia
  Oct 2, 07, 20:46  #118

Quoting: plk123
abu ghraib

military criminals who deserve to die, not innocent people, women and children. Criminals who are brainwashed with their religion and who if not locked up would join together and bomb everyone all over the world who are not their religion.

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plk123
  Oct 2, 07, 20:49  #119

please look in the mirror.. same could be said about americans. military criminals? is that why they AREN"T POWs? is that why shrubco has to hide behind "illegal combatant" label? what's a legal combatant then? i don't think there is even one of those in IRQ. does shrub talk to jesus? ... ... ...

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Lightbulb
  Oct 3, 07, 00:06  #120

Quoting: plk123
guantamo bay and all the other secret detention zones all over the world.


With the minor difference that no one dies. Killing millions for their race vs. inconveniencing a few hundred for "accidentally" showing up on a battlefield in Afghanistan... same thing, right? ;)

Anyway, I'll agree that the president is a stubborn guy, and will never admit that the war in Iraq sort of lost its basis once no WMD were found. However, even the UN weapon inspection team's leader Hans Blix told the British media that he expected us to find weapons once we invaded Iraq. Jumping to a false conclusion is embarrasing, but if we can effect some positive change in Iraq, we might still create a net benefit and trade partner there. The Philippines was much more difficult than Iraq, and nowadays it's great over there, and probably the most pro-American country outside our borders. People who call Iraq a bad situation would probably go into fits if they looked at the Philippines c. 1900 when we fought a 10-year fight against the insurgency there, and that was without airpower, against a motivated Muslim enemy. Nothing is lost yet, contrary to what most Democrats want to believe. :)

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