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plk123
  Oct 8, 07, 13:28  #151

Quoting: randompal
many countries have it, and yes the former Commie nations had it too. Under the COmmunists the state-run health systems were shoddy but they were there, and they did their jobs on a basic level despite many many shortcomings. Better than no healthcare, as they say. Now allmost all industrialized nations have some form of national healthcare except, as we all know, the USA. Polls show over and over again that most (not all, but still most) Americans want it, but they won't get it because Congress in the USA is bought and paid for by the AMA and the insurance industry.


yup and it will be USA's downfall too.

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North Pole [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 15:57  #152

Quoting: plk123
what do you think of America?

It`s over.

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plk123
  Oct 8, 07, 16:00  #153

what's over? america isn't over.. it's just been discovered.. :D

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Oct 8, 07, 16:05  #154

Quoting: North Pole
It`s over.

.. there - on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean.

Unless you're there, in which case it's here.

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1st generation [Guest]
  Oct 9, 07, 09:27  #155

Get a job and you will get healthcare. I don't want the government to dictate about my healthcare.

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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 09:34  #156

Quoting: 1st generation
Get a job and you will get healthcare.


Social Darwinism at its best. Civilisation is overated isnt it?

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randompal
  Oct 9, 07, 10:09  #157

Quoting: 1st generation
Get a job and you will get healthcare. I don't want the government to dictate about my healthcare.

it's not that easy because:
1. you are unprotected when between jobs-sometimes you have a waiting period when you start a new job and you are uncovered
2. low-paid, temporary, part-time, and seasonal workers rarely get health care coverage
3. You can have health insurance but when you develop a serious disease (ie cancer) the insurance company sometimes cancels your policy because the treatment is too expensive (these cases are often challenged in court but the insurers sometimes win their cases anyway)

I for one do want the government to dictate my healthcare...when the private insurers start treating me like an unprofitable piece of meat, I want the government to kindly tell them to F*CK OFF (in the STates often the reverse is true).

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zibo
  Oct 9, 07, 10:41  #158

Quoting: North Pole
It`s over.


he's right. for people who come here for few months to work their ass off and make as much $$$ as possible and go back to Poland, it's not the same country anymore. Dollar is weak as hell, they are better off working in Europe now.

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Oscypek
  Oct 10, 07, 10:48  #159

Quoting: FISZ
She was also wondering where all of the obese people were. She heard that there's an enormous obesity problem, but only saw a few here and there and didn't see it as big of a problem that everyone makes it appear to be. Maybe it's just where we were visiting. NY-NJ-NC.


NY City isn't so bad with the obesity problem--everyone walks everywhere because most people don't own cars. There is a nationwide problem though. The obesity maps are interesting. They show that the biggest problem is in the Midwest and mostly in the South.

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/fit.nation/obesity.map/

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  Oct 18, 07, 11:17  #160

Randompol, you can buy a high-deductible policy from any insurance company and if you are poor, the state has policies based on income. We like private health insurance because we have choices.

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plk123
  Oct 18, 07, 11:25  #161

Quoting: 1st generation
Randompol, you can buy a high-deductible policy from any insurance company and if you are poor, the state has policies based on income. We like private health insurance because we have choices.

yeah, the choice to get screwed.. the best choice of all.. 1gen.. you have really no idea what USA is missing out on.. this health care system, the way it is, is the worst of all industralized nations.

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BubbaWoo
  Oct 18, 07, 11:29  #162

Quoting: Oscypek
They show that the biggest problem is in the Midwest and mostly in the South


seems to have worsened in just the past couple of years

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z_darius
  Oct 18, 07, 12:03  #163

Quoting: 1st generation
We like private health insurance because we have choices.

It looks like you never had much of a health problem. Good for you and I wish you all the best.

But... ask around and see what people have to say. The insurance company will eventually find that a bad case of flu (you may have had years before you make a new claim) could have influenced your current condition. Under such circumstance, if, at the time of signing up for a new health insurance policy, you did not include every single minor malady you may have suffered your health insurance claims may be worth less than the paper they are written on. Add to that all the treatments that insurance companies may deem experimental and you now have a pretty good picture of your choices: keep your house or get the medical care you need.

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randompal
  Oct 18, 07, 12:33  #164

Quoting: 1st generation
We like private health insurance because we have choices.

not much of a choice I'm afraid, face it America's healthcare system is morally bankrupt and it only serves the insurance companies - you can thank Nixon for bringing it all about..

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Oscypek
  Oct 18, 07, 13:09  #165

Quoting: randompal
not much of a choice I'm afraid, face it America's healthcare system is morally bankrupt and it only serves the insurance companies


Yep...

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MGAG [Guest]
  Nov 1, 07, 00:36  #166

I think you all should be deported.

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sledz
  Nov 1, 07, 02:14  #167

Quoting: MGAG
I think you all should be deported.

troll

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Kronx1970
  Nov 2, 07, 17:19  #168

The problem with America, is it's full of Americans that have lost the understanding on the foundations of how our country works. We'll sit and point fingers and Bush all day, but tend to leave out the part about the American people voting him or any other politician in office. It's why they are called 'elected officials.' Americans have quickly shifted into 'autopilot' mode and want someone else to do all the decision making for them. We're generally ignorant and all of the major problems we face now are due to our ignorance being exploited like a sleazy car salesmen. But there is no one to blame but ourselves.

Yet, our American culture has caught this virus in the last few decades of "blame someone else." It's why our court systems are congested with absolutely ridiculous lawsuits, because American people have a hard time accepting responsibility for their actions. It shows itself on every level of our culture. Some are more severe than others.

We can't have a government for the people; by the people -- if those people are indifferent to everything outside of their tiny bubble. That's ignorance(not stupidity) and we've got to change that.

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miranda
  Nov 2, 07, 17:22  #169

Knox,
good post, keep it coming.

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regionpolski
  Nov 2, 07, 17:47  #170

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Of the three, Life seems to be trumping the other two. Patrick Henry didn't say, " Give me Life with tremendously curtailed Liberties, which will greatly inhibit my ability to Pursue Happiness, or give me death." I agree with Kronx1970.

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Lukasz
  Nov 2, 07, 20:46  #171

it seams that Czech rep citizens will travel without visa to USA in 2008 ...

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 2, 07, 22:06  #172

Quoting: Lukasz
it seams that Czech rep citizens will travel without visa to USA in 2008 ...


and how does it make you feel?

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Lukasz
  Nov 2, 07, 22:16  #173

Quoting: Eurola
and how does it make you feel?


I feel good, just because my point of view on PL-USA relationship sticks to reality, and last elections shows that most of Poles stick to reality too.

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 2, 07, 22:31  #174

What's the word on the street then? Answering 'Bush is a moran' will not help. We know that. Why should Chechs have the visa free entrance and not Poles?

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plk123
  Nov 2, 07, 22:39  #175

czechs don't stay past their visa time?

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 2, 07, 22:47  #176

Yes, they do...
(maybe not so many...but because not so many were ever getting out their country)

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plk123
  Nov 2, 07, 23:31  #177

Quoting: Eurola
getting out their country

maybe they don't need to come here as their politicians have their best interests at heart and their country is doing better then poland post commie time?

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 2, 07, 23:38  #178

Well, most of the commie countries dwellers could not leave - even if they wished or wanted to. Poland always had a kind of... an open door - at all times...

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plk123
  Nov 2, 07, 23:53  #179

Quoting: Eurola
Poland always had a kind of... an open door - at all times...

'81-"91 too?

Quoting: Eurola

Well, most of the commie countries dwellers could not leave - even if they wished or wanted to

but now they can and don't seem to want to. why?

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Wroclaw Boy GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 3, 07, 16:46  #180

Quoting: Kronx1970
The problem with America, is it's full of Americans that have lost the understanding on the foundations of how our country works. We'll sit and point fingers and Bush all day, but tend to leave out the part about the American people voting him or any other politician in office. It's why they are called 'elected officials.' Americans have quickly shifted into 'autopilot' mode and want someone else to do all the decision making for them. We're generally ignorant and all of the major problems we face now are due to our ignorance being exploited like a sleazy car salesmen. But there is no one to blame but ourselves.

Yet, our American culture has caught this virus in the last few decades of "blame someone else." It's why our court systems are congested with absolutely ridiculous lawsuits, because American people have a hard time accepting responsibility for their actions. It shows itself on every level of our culture. Some are more severe than others.

We can't have a government for the people; by the people -- if those people are indifferent to everything outside of their tiny bubble. That's ignorance(not stupidity) and we've got to change that.


You seem to have all the answers not unlike another 9,000,000 peolpe not to mention a probable 200,000,000 peolple around the World.

Question is are you fukin yanks gonna be able to anything about it or just continue to moan about BUSH.. the biggest idoit on the face of this Planet.

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USA the land of oppotunity... Prove it vote Obama!

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