what do Polish people think of the USA

Oh My god, i wrote the previous reply on instinct alone.

You seem to have formulated some idea of the problems with America and this world today, i only hope you stick with it.

I was thinking about USA ...

and I think that you have Bush we have Kaczysnki (one of them is still our president) ...

Both of them harmed reputation of our countries, and I think that we should wait for your (USA) elections, and I hope you will choose sb like Kenedy, and we will start different discussion.

Do you think the next US president will come to Warsaw and say "Ich bin ein...", oops "Jestem Warszawiakiem?"?

I dont care. ;)

What is important, Kaczysnki is crazy but inteligent and he was PM of Poland not USA. Bush is an idiot and he is leader of the strongest country all over the world ... his neo-conservatist advisors ehhh, just change them. It is a good friendly advice.

Don't think so. Rather 'Czołem żołnierze' :) (or something that he/she would think would sound like that).

Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. None of the presidential candidates are worth much IMO. They all are making promises they don't intend to keep. They're all hustling to the polls/surveys. They find out what American's want to hear, and they'll regurgitate it.

And then of course, the American people, in general, don't really care and therefore don't hold these politicians accountable for any of it. We suffer from a severe case of short term memory loss.

Seems more and more Americans are content with having someone else do the thinking for them. They don't really care to use that 3lb gray mass sitting above their shoulders, and American culture, on so many levels, promotes this mental lethargy.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying all of America is like this, but the gross majority is unfortunately. I love my country, and I'm a proud to call myself American. I'm proud to have served my country in Desert Storm and Desert Shield. Yet I don't let my pride blind me of the serious issues we face in regards to the direction of this nation. Many folks like to point fingers at the person sitting in the Oval Office, but I think our biggest issue starts in the American home. Every new generation gets less and less education on the origin of America. They grow more and more ignorant on the foundation and ideals for which our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and Constitution were drafted.

It's starting to become the norm that American History isn't even taught until the 8th grade. That's just madness in my opinion. It should be taught from 1st grade till 12th. If we forget our origins, then we lose perspective on our posterity.

you are making a common mistake: you are assuming that he picked his advisors, and unfortunately chose wisely. It is more likely that they chose him, because they knew he would be a loyal reliable puppy...

consider the pattern: Kennedy was chosen and once he really started stirring things up, the men behind the curtain blew his head off. Allende was elected as president of Chile, and once he started stirring things up, they blew his head off. There are many more examples...

Everybody loves us because we r u. Doesn't matter where your from or who your God is we have your people living here as one big fun loving group. And the great part is even I can put down the presidents actions. In the end we are all the same. I strongly admire the Polish (yes me too) with the strong work and family values. Being Polish/American I have a strong sence of missing my fathers birth country.

Shame he's not here anymore, wouldnt have minded finding out exactly what he meant by this remark

Well said Kronx1970!!!

I'm born American but good grief, I'm figuring out what I have to do become more internationally connected because I don't see the horizon going well for our country. It saddens me to see it because I believe we came from great things, but our ignorance seems to grow continuously as education declines and laziness on all levels is strongly supported by an entitlement mindset. Our disconnection from our history and the rest of the worlds history and truth lead us dangerously in the direction of future leaders that take more freedoms and completely remove the face of America that once stood as a beacon of opportunity of hope to many - including my family who escaped the Russian control over their home in Poland 100 years ago.

I also thinks its funny when American's ***** and moan about immigrants doing the low paying jobs as though they were stealing from our economy. The reason there are so many jobs held by immigrants is because Americans cop an attitude that they wouldn't do that job. (e.g. farm jobs in California and hotel jobs in New York).

Interesting but the last bit is not quite right, although it is popular in U.S. media circles (outside affected areas especially). It is easy to say there is no immigration problem when it is happening somewhere else and shutting down someone elses' hospitals. I just moved from San Diego, and anyone there can drive down to Chula Vista and see the Kaiser-Permanente hospital...that is now just a building. It went out of business, for having to treat illegals for free non-stop in the emergency room. Also talk to workers trying to find a job who do NOT have college degrees (not all of us are well-to-do out of high school or have football skills or straight "A's"). See how competitive they feel, when employers in the area, construction, for instance, turn them away for illegals who do the same work at a fraction of the cost, and no liability ("What worker? There is no worker..."). Americans in these areas are not lazy, the work was done by citizens before illegals ever did it, but the constant desire to make things cheaper or have higher profit margins have driven the American worker out into the cold in many cases. Of COURSE engineers and doctors are not clamoring to work in the fields or in construction. But the people who ARE looking for these jobs....have trouble because their competition will work for less than the TAXES the employer would have to pay for a legal citizen....
Sorry. Rant concluded. I basically agree with the rest of your post however!

Still not sure what Polish people think of the USA...I've seen mostly Americans obviously upset by the last elections and willing to compare their country (no doubt with wild eyes, and mouth gasping-believing every story they hear) to the worst days of Nazi Germany just to drag the current administration through the mud...as well as British people living here and in Poland, and people of Polish decent (like myself, although I am an American)....but not too many Polish.....
I really am curious, how do Poles really see us over here?

Yeah, we all know that those Republicans rail against open borders and slave labor, particularly from Mexico, right? Here's a newsflash for you: big business, which the GOP is completely beholden to, lobbied Ronald Reagan's White House and the US Congress to allow 6,000,000 illegals to legalize. Reagan amestied those illegals in '86. Clinton put up a hundred miles of fence and barriers along the US-Mexico border in California. His administration actually enforced workplace ID checks for immigraton status, and pursued jihadists all over the US and, of course, in Afghanistan. During the changeover of administrations, Clinton told Bush that the most pressing matter that he will be inheriting was the activity of Al Qaida in the US. Bush didn't figure that out until he was midway through "My Mother The Goat" or whatever that childrens' book that he was reading to students on 9/11 was entitled. The CIA and the NSA, each with a budget in the hundreds of billions of dollars, an amount more than the GNP's of most countries, publicly stated that Bush was told that Al Qaida in the US was a major problem. The Neocons ignored Al Qaida and relaxed security for nine months after W took office, leaving anyone with two functioning brain cells in his or head to acknowledge that some entity or entities in the Bush govt. did so deliberately, hoping for a provocation on US soil from Al Qaida, which would be an ideal pretext for war against Saddam. They got more than they bargained for on Sept. 11.(BTW, Iraq has the world's second largest reserves of crude oil on Earth, a crucial supply in the coming decades, which will witness the depletion of all cheap oil, forever. This fact is why we are in Iraq.) Bush's advisors were deliberately backing off of pursuing Al Qaida in his W's year. If Al Qaida hit in the US, the White House would use it to their advantage, knowing that Al Qaida was small and could be stopped before they threw around anthrax or a small nuke. In addition, Bush's White House has still done nothing for security! You could walk across the goddamn Mexico/US border right now with no fear whatsoever! You'd that maybe if terrorists were a real threat to the US, he may just want to take a little look at that wide open Southern border.

So wont it be a good thing if Mexicans can be legal and pay their tax? Surely a competitive work market is a good thing, at least thats what we are being told all the time since we opened up our doors to those who entered into the EU a few years back !

USA besides some details is OK ;)

My last statement is to short.
Why USA and Poland should be good friends:
1)Germans are not our friends
2)Russians are not our friends
3)Strong USA means that Germans pretend that they are good USA ally but we all know that they wait for first opportunity to hug with Russia...
4)Do Germans and Russians want strong Poland ?
5)USA needs ally inside EU
6)Do USA has sth against strong Poland ?
7)EU suck
8)EU suck
9)EU suck
10) Do you people really think that Germans or Russians will be better for African nations or sth like that ?
11)USA is stron and will be strong because it is country of hard working people as we are.
12) EU suck
13)When another creatures like Paczka will apear here we will simply tell him to f**** off becuase we are free!

We have business to do togheter we are more than sure ally of USA and Merkel and Sarko are friends of USA now but Germans and French are not. So we will simply help USA to be strong and disturb all silly projects of EU-Russian allies (this idea will comeback sooner or later). We will have safety. Once again USA is last country which has sth agains strong Poland, and it is good they run this world I hope that this crisise will be not painful. It seams that now we will be more demanding partner (in details) but it is good :P

My idea is that we should take as much money form EU as it is possible and be good friend of USA :)

don't listen to this all p**** who find everything wrong you have done ... everybody have done sth wrong I believe that American society wanted good.

(Yes our european friends EU suck)

Now when USA is in troubes we should support them !

USA RUNING THIS BUSINESS AND F***** UP GERMANS AND RUSSIANS. IT IS OUR DREAM !

lay off the crack bra... its making you go cookoo

nah, i think that post was still a bit short. :D :D :D

I have heard that Poland is very successful and maybe a better place to move to The y also are more environmentally friendly. Is this true?? Is there much need for commercial construction in Poland? or has the economy slowed there?

Yes we need everybody who can do sth ;) and you will get good money (construction industry). Yes economy slows from 7% in 2007 of GDP increase to 5% at the end of this year ;)

Don't worry we welcome American people here.

Why so much construction personel needed in Poland ? What about professional help other than labor?

http://www.polishforums.com/new_skyscraper_warsaw-7_17213_0.html

http://www.polishforums.com/euro_poland_ukraine-15_6129_0.html
Unemployment in the bigest towns doesn't exist you will succesfuly find job/settle company as professional.

so, how come everyone is working in the UK or S or N or some other place but PL?

I have seen in TV that emigration stoped and some comeback :))) Now we can forget about EU because we have work for Poles here.

I think the USA is dirty !! Canada FTW !!

14. We are family, blood family, exciled from Poland when communism took over.

Carol Celinska

some are coming back like my buddy but then he went to S because there is no good jobs in PL. that's from the horse's mouth.

I must say when I was in Canada I was very impressed with the way they keep the street very clean. I was in Ottawa and didn't know if this was all of Canada or just where I was? Great job Canada, it looked great.

Carol, USA

Maybe he couldn't. In constraction industry you can earn "good money" and there will be a lot of work to 2012 that's for sure. Of course it isn't UK and USA but home is home and life is less expensive than in UK or Irealand. Emigration stoped there are some reasons.

I like you.

he wokrs in construction has a butt load of experienc.. speaks fluent english and still eneded up in N. so, something isn't up and up like you seem to think. and it wasn't really a choice either.. he said he pretty much had to to make a decent living. he has a baby and a wife in PL.

celinska, yes, canada is very clean.. how do they manage? lol.. they just don't throw stuff on the ground like maericans tend to.