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Are polish pupils harming native british childrens education?

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JustysiaS
	Dec 3, 07, 14:12 #151 Quoting: noimmigration the british are paying for poles in this country NOT the other way around blame the british for paying, not the polish for taking the money then.	Member Posts: 2006 Joined: Oct 14, 07

JustysiaS
	Dec 3, 07, 14:13 #152 Quoting: slick77 Do all Poles in the UK live in groups of 5+ in one bedroom? i live by myself, i share a house with my British landlord and done so for the last 2 years	Member Posts: 2006 Joined: Oct 14, 07

PinkJewel [Guest]
	Dec 3, 07, 14:13 #153 Quoting: noimmigration Poles have only been paying tax for about one year, the british have been paying tax their whole lives. Makes sense to me that none of them paid tax BEFORE moving here. And we've not being paying taxes our whole lives...or am I about to get done for all those year I never paid while I was a baby, toddler etc? Quoting: noimmigration 2. poles pay far less local tax because they live in groups of 5+ in one bedroom flats/apartments That's smart to me! The more people in a flat, the less council tax to pay per person, less on bills each...	Guest

noimmigration
	Dec 3, 07, 14:14 #154 Quoting: JustysiaS i share a house with my British landlord and done so for the last 2 years I wonder how you pay your rent.	Member Posts: 889 Joined: Nov 18, 07

noimmigration
	Edited by: noimmigration Dec 3, 07, 14:15 #155 so you think its right that poles have never paid tax here and they get free hospital care, child benefits, free education, housing etc. ? and to top it off they get all the tax they paid back when they leave.	Member Posts: 889 Joined: Nov 18, 07

osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 3, 07, 14:16 #156 Quoting: noimmigration noimmigration A man who wants to live in a nation of dirty toilets. Suits him fine.	Member Posts: 4998 Joined: Jul 25, 07

noimmigration
	Dec 3, 07, 14:17 #157 Quoting: osiol A man who wants to live in a nation of dirty toilets. Suits him fine. our toilets were clean enough before poles came here,	Member Posts: 889 Joined: Nov 18, 07

osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 3, 07, 14:18 #158 It is possible to pay too much tax by PAYE. Fill in a P85 and you can claim back what is owed when you leave.	Member Posts: 4998 Joined: Jul 25, 07

noimmigration
	Dec 3, 07, 14:18 #159 thats not what I am talking about osiol and you know it	Member Posts: 889 Joined: Nov 18, 07

JustysiaS
	Dec 3, 07, 14:20 #160 Quoting: noimmigration I wonder how you pay your rent. i dont. ha ha. i do really, cleaning toilets pays well.	Member Posts: 2006 Joined: Oct 14, 07

osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 3, 07, 14:25 #161 Quoting: noimmigration The Salvation Army has provided the Doroszenkos with food parcels and the homeless charity, Shelter, is trying to find them a permanent home They are charities.	Member Posts: 4998 Joined: Jul 25, 07

JustysiaS
	Dec 3, 07, 14:26 #162 Quoting: noimmigration blame the system you moron, your government admitted themselves it is wrong. Poles are laughing in your face and taking your money even though some of them arent in UK and what you gonna do huh? what can you do? post some more of you crap on here? write a letter to your prime minister see if he cares what a little shi*t like you has got to say.	Member Posts: 2006 Joined: Oct 14, 07

osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 3, 07, 14:29 #163 Quoting: noimmigration noimmigration No immigration, therefore no emigration? Because it is only a matter of where you are standing.	Member Posts: 4998 Joined: Jul 25, 07

wildrover
	Dec 3, 07, 16:29 #164 Quoting: JustysiaS shi*t like you has got to say Steady Justysia , remember you are a lady.... Lemmon curry....is that legal.......?	Member Posts: 1521 Joined: Jun 7, 07

El Gato
	Dec 3, 07, 16:49 #165 Quoting: Lady in red the point is the children can only speak Polish and the Schools have no funding for the influx of non english speaking children. That means ordinary teaching resources are having to be diverted from educating the existing children, whilst they are attempting to teach the other children english so that they can take part in the day to day lessons. This is a major problem and quite rightly exisiting children should not be put in a position where their education is severely affected by this. This Government should quickly identify the area's where this is happening and provide the necessary funds to assist. Headteachers shouldn't have to go and lobby for funds they should be in School !! Well then that's the government's fault and not the immigrants' The government allowed them to come in such large numbers without really thinking it through. Student's shouldn't be getting blamed for this. Thanks for clearing that up. :] I thought he was just being a hypocritical @ss.	Member Posts: 487 Joined: Sep 21, 07

the_falkster
	Dec 3, 07, 17:57 #166 Quoting: noimmigration not that poles need an education as you dont need a degree to clean toilets how god damn stupid is this person actually?? seems as if you got your education on dirty toilets... by the way. did you now that poles when they go back home have to pay taxes for all the years they worked in a different country? it's not them who can be blamed but the governments of both states who need to sort that out. at the end you should pay your tax where you earn... but as i said. it is NOT the immigrants who are to be blamed. even foul language doesn't change that...	Member Posts: 198 Joined: Nov 15, 07

slick77
	Dec 3, 07, 18:09 #167 Quoting: the_falkster how god damn stupid is this person actually?? in the scale from 1 to 10 he gets 15	Member Posts: 171 Joined: Nov 9, 07

ShelleyS
	Dec 4, 07, 05:16 #168 Quoting: Grzegorz_ Are you really so... "unsmart" ? and you're a cock! - like I said turn off the lights on ya way out Dog!	Member Posts: 2561 Joined: Jun 26, 07

ShelleyS
	Dec 4, 07, 05:18 #169 Quoting: the_falkster even foul language doesn't change that... neither does violence, but you seem to revel in the fact that you used to go out kicking tish out of drunkards in Poland	Member Posts: 2561 Joined: Jun 26, 07

Wroclaw Boy ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 4, 07, 05:24 #170 hey slick did you get my response on the thread: poles - the nation of liars	Member Posts: 1443 Joined: Oct 12, 07

Wroclaw Boy ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 4, 07, 05:27 #171 Quoting: noimmigration and to top it off they get all the tax they paid back when they leave. Do they really? i know nothing about that please explain.	Member Posts: 1443 Joined: Oct 12, 07

Wroclaw Boy ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 4, 07, 05:36 #172 Quoting: slick77 Do all Poles in the UK live in groups of 5+ in one bedroom? Im afraid that most do Slick, I remember going to a typical Polish household back in 2005 with my Polish girlfriend in not the best area of Southampton. There were approximately 12 adults living in a three bedroomed house, i saw it with my own eyes. There was (in addition) two babys less than a year old, both born in England. At the time I was a little concerned planning a baby with my then GF and we both had respectable carreers and a two bedroom flat. Got to hand it to the Poles they sure are resourceful.	Member Posts: 1443 Joined: Oct 12, 07

Lady in red [Guest]
	Dec 4, 07, 05:45 #173 Quoting: slick77 Do all Poles in the UK live in groups of 5+ in one bedroom? Do all English live in Council houses, on benefits and get drunk every night. Slob on the sofa all day, watching tv and lazying about ?	Guest

ShelleyS
	Dec 4, 07, 05:57 #174 Quoting: Wroclaw Boy know nothing about that please explain. People from A8 countries can claim their tax back when they leave the UK...	Member Posts: 2561 Joined: Jun 26, 07

Wroclaw Boy ♦ GOLD MEMBER
	Dec 4, 07, 05:58 #175 Quoting: Lady in red Do all English live in Council houses, on benefits and get drunk every night. Slob on the sofa all day, watching tv and lazying about ? Hi Lady. No but some do, in the case of Poles living in cramped conditions to save money and send home, then yes most do.	Member Posts: 1443 Joined: Oct 12, 07

Lady in red [Guest]
	Dec 4, 07, 06:08 #176 Quoting: Wroclaw Boy n the case of Poles living in cramped conditions to save money and send home, then yes most do. Yeah, well thanks for that info Wroclaw Boy but it's not entirely correct ot say 'most do'. The ones you have met or seen may do but that is not 'most' of them in my book. But it's fair enough to post your comments based on what you have seen. Accomodation is expensive in the UK as well. I know some Poles who don't live in 'cramped conditions' and I do mean those who emigrated here recently. Some English people live in cramped conditions and have lived here all their life, some other nationalities also tend to live in small houses and house many family members of all generations. :))	Guest

the_falkster
	Dec 4, 07, 06:11 #177 Quoting: ShelleyS Quoting: the_falkster even foul language doesn't change that... neither does violence, but you seem to revel in the fact that you used to go out kicking tish out of drunkards in Poland there you must have mixed me up with someone else posting in this thread! read carefully before blaming me for things i never did and certainly would never do... apology expected! Quoting: ShelleyS People from A8 countries can claim their tax back when they leave the UK... and as i mentioned above they still have to pay their taxes in their home countries. this is most certainly not going to stay like this forever and is down to bureaucracy, ie immigrants CAN'T be blamed for that! is it really that difficult to understand??	Member Posts: 198 Joined: Nov 15, 07

Lady in red [Guest]
	Dec 4, 07, 06:11 #178 Quoting: ShelleyS People from A8 countries can claim their tax back when they leave the UK... So does that mean English people living and working in another Country can do the same i.e claim their tax back when they come back to England (with their kids who maybe were receiving free education too). Am assuming they would of course have been working in a member EU state ? :))	Guest

the_falkster
	Dec 4, 07, 06:16 #179 Quoting: Lady in red but it's not entirely correct ot say 'most do' 100% of the poles i know live in perfectly normal conditions. but certainly i understand the idea of sharing houses to save money. do not students in the UK do pretty much the same?? ;)	Member Posts: 198 Joined: Nov 15, 07

ShelleyS
	Dec 4, 07, 06:21 #180 Quoting: JustysiaS blame the system you moron, your government admitted themselves it is wrong. Poles are laughing in your face and taking your money even though some of them arent in UK and what you gonna do huh? Nice!	Member Posts: 2561 Joined: Jun 26, 07

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