PolishForums   Poland Now and Then 
Home . Polls . Search Witamy,  [Guest 38.103.63.58]  Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts . Random Topic
 Please register or login below:

 » Username  » Password 

Polish Forums / Poland Politics & History /

What are Polish-Serbian relations like?


  «« 1 2 ... 9 10 [11] 12 13 ... 30 31  »»
messages: 926
celinski
  Feb 23, 08, 16:31  #301

Crow wrote:
USA and EU destabilizing Serbia and our children dying


Crow there are more constructive ways to voice how you feel. The Serbs must take full responsability for his death and any other youths that feel they are doing the right thing by causing destruction. Adults must take the lead and teach their children a better way.

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
southern
  Feb 23, 08, 16:32  #302

Crow wrote:
or maybe security killed him?


No.Maybe the doors were automatically locked when he was inside or something like that.

 
Member
Posts: 4217
Joined: May 17, 07
jones101
  Feb 23, 08, 16:34  #303

You are missing the point...HE BROKE INTO THE US EMBASSY AND DIED WHILE VANDALIZING IT! That is not heroic or even good...it is criminal and a bit moronic

 
Member
Posts: 582
Joined: Jan 14, 08
Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 23, 08, 16:39  #304

Grzegorz_ wrote:
but Donladu knows better...

maybe he should tell truth to the Poles, as Serbian PM said truth to the Serbs

ADDRESS BY PRIME MINISTER OF SERBIA VOJISLAV KOSTUNICA TO SERBIAN PARLIAMENT
http://www.mfa.gov.yu/Policy/Priorities/KIM/kostunica261207_e.html

And here, in parliament, we can support this with firm evidence already presented to the whole world, namely: it was America and not Serbia that said negotiations should stop, while Serbia supports the continuation of negotiations; it was America and not Serbia that said no compromise is possible, while Serbia is advocating reaching a compromise; it was America and not Serbia that said it will use unilateral solutions, while Serbia is explicitly against unilateral acts; it was America and not Serbia that said it will act disobeying the decisions of the Security Council, while Serbia is advocating that all decisions must be brought by the Security Council; it was America and not Serbia that threatened to violate the valid Resolution 1244 and UN Charter illegally recognising the unilateral independence while Serbia requires strict respect of the Resolution and the UN Charter.

Massive Kosovo rally held in Belgrade

21 February 2008 | 10:30 -> 18:43 | Source: B92, Beta
http://xs4.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&dd=21 &nav_id=47869

Serbian PM said:
"For as long as we live – Kosovo is Serbia and our brothers in Kosovo are not alone and forgotten! While we reject ultimatums and accept friendship – Serbia is free! The pledge has been made, and the whole world has heard it. And everyone knows the value of a Serbian pledge," the prime minister said.


 
Member
Posts: 2249
Joined: Feb 14, 07
Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Feb 23, 08, 16:48  #305



STIĆI ĆE TE BOŽIJA PRAVDA...

SMRT FAŠIZMU SLOBODA NARODU!

Anyone try to put yourself in Zoran's position, who is a Kosovo Serb, from his perspective, that one day you wake up and find out that the home your grandfather and father had built is now in a different country, that you need a visa to go there, because of a decision of one lunatic - illegal and immoral annexation of your territory in violation of international law, I repeat there was no UN resolution authorizing it.

After 78 days of NATO bombing and the withdrawal of Serbian Army troops, Zoran was forced to leave his home by Albanian Muslim terrorists who had unleashed a reign of terror on the Serbs in Kosovo that American troops failed to secure.

You wouldn't be outraged?!?

 
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sep 21, 07
Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 23, 08, 16:52  #306

celinski wrote:
Adults must take the lead and teach their children a better way.

you see, Serbian children grow up with epic and lyric poetry based on Kosovo battle (1389) mithology and tragedy of Serbs after downfall of Serbian Empire after Turks arrived

when child don`t want to eat, mother say to child: ``eat and you would be strong as Miloš Obilić was`` Then, child ask mother: ``Who was Oblić?...`` and mother talk to child. Its from one generations to another generation. That`s how Serbs survived Turkish occupation

Now, when hostile powers destroying Serbian lands, what should mothers told to children

Serbian people is united arround Kosovo issue. We would win. Our graweyards and Churches are on Kosovo-Metohija, same as our people in agony and all our loyal citizens. Christ is with us after all

 
Member
Posts: 2249
Joined: Feb 14, 07
celinski
  Feb 23, 08, 16:53  #307

OK so where can the other people live? You must live and let live. Serbia still has a home they just are not happy unless they have it all. In order to go forward everyone must respect rights of the other.

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
jones101
Edited by: jones101  Feb 23, 08, 16:54  #308

Your history must be week, SERbs and Albanians have been back and forth at each other for generation upon generation. Both sides have done nasty things yet overlook their own transgressions while spotlighting their "enemies". It's a huge war of hypocrisy...the HYPOCRIWAR!!

 
Member
Posts: 582
Joined: Jan 14, 08
celinski
  Feb 23, 08, 17:00  #309

jones101 wrote:

Your history must be week, SERbs and Albanians have been back and forth at each other for generation upon generation. Both sides have done nasty things yet overlook their own transgressions while spotlighting their "enemies". It's a huge war of hypocrisy...the HYPOCRIWAR!!


So lets keep it going?

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Feb 23, 08, 17:17  #310

celinski wrote:

Your history must be week, SERbs and Albanians have been back and forth at each other for generation upon generation. Both sides have done nasty things yet overlook their own transgressions while spotlighting their "enemies". It's a huge war of hypocrisy...the HYPOCRIWAR!!


So it is fine for George Bush to unilaterally and illegaly impose a solution without UN Security Council approval, where he gives to one side 100% to the Albanians demands and 0% to the Serbs the other side? Is this what you call a compromise? Serbia today is in a position of Germany after the Versailles treaty, the whole country is outraged and feel a historic injustice was done. An imposed solution didn't work then and neither will it work now. From what I saw and felt on the streets, there will be no peace in the Balkans in the next 50 years. If you Americans are asking why is your embassy targeted, when you are only one out of several other countries that recognised the false state of Kosovo - because your administration had led the whole illegitimate process.

I remind you, UN resolution 1244 which Milosevic signed with NATO to end the war in 1999 guarantees the sovereignity and territorial integrity of Serbia. This was brutally stamped on by USA and its sattelite states who decided to set a dangerous precedent by unilaterally recognising false state of Kosovo on occupied Serbian territory and is equal to an act of war.

For every Serb since 17/02/2008 the time has stopped and a new dawn will not come until Kosovo is restored to Serbia. If you wanted to award Albanians with land then you could have settled them in Nevada, no one gave you the right to gift something which is not yours.

 
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sep 21, 07
jones101
  Feb 23, 08, 17:20  #311

MMMMM I think that little ethnic cleansing thing ol Slobodan got going lost him anything in the way of friends in the USA.

 
Member
Posts: 582
Joined: Jan 14, 08
Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Feb 23, 08, 17:56  #312

jones101 wrote:
MMMMM I think that little ethnic cleansing thing ol Slobodan got going lost him anything in the way of friends in the USA.


Dayton

Yep, this is the Dayton peace accord in 1995 which ended the Bosnian war, Bill Clinton then described Milosevic "as a garrantor of peace and stability in the Balkans."

In Kosovo, since Milosevic came to power as Serbian president in 1989 until his removal in 2000, in the battle between Serbian police and Albanian separatist guerillas the toll was 7,000 Albanians dead and 3,000 Serbs dead in 12 years. In Iraq there are between 700,000 to 1 million dead as a direct result of US millitary intervention since 2003.

It's just that most Americans listen to CNN and read New York Times where 100 times fabricated lies become the truth.

And as far as ethnic cleansing in Kosovo is concerned watch this:



Canadian Ambassador of Serbia exposes U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark's lies and fabrications

 
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sep 21, 07
celinski
  Feb 23, 08, 18:04  #313

Grudge on USA so lets destroy a building. OK if you feel better to bad a young man had to die.

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 23, 08, 18:59  #314

something nice for good night, from Serbia to Poland...

Nataša Bekvalac - Mali signali


Nataša Bekvalac - Nikotin


Nataša Bekvalac - Ne mogu


 
Member
Posts: 2249
Joined: Feb 14, 07
Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Feb 24, 08, 04:48  #315

Nataša Bekvalac - Ponovo



I like this one, Crow you are very lucky this girl is from Novi Sad your home town, do you know her address by any chance? ;)

 
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sep 21, 07
southern
  Feb 24, 08, 05:06  #316

Serbian girls cause constant mydriasis.

 
Member
Posts: 4217
Joined: May 17, 07
lesser
  Feb 24, 08, 08:19  #317

Crow, this is photo from Kielce, translation please.

http://www.mfoto.pl/uploads/1990/add_logo.php_e9873.jpg

 
Member
Posts: 1361
Joined: Oct 19, 07
lesser
  Feb 24, 08, 09:04  #318

Another one from Lodz.

http://www.foto.widzew.org/foto/IMG_0916.jpg

 
Member
Posts: 1361
Joined: Oct 19, 07
Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Feb 24, 08, 09:08  #319

@ Lesser the transparent means Kosovo is Serbia in cyrillic.

Poland - Legia Warsaw
Legia
Naš glas za Kosova spas = Our voice for saving of Kosovo

Lithuania - Lietuvas
Lithuania

Greece - Olympiacos vs. Chelsea
Greece

Romania - Dinamo Bucharest
Romania

Romania

Slovakia
Slovakia
Kosovo je sveta srpska zemlja = Kosovo is holy Serbian land.

Russia - CSKA Moscow
Russia

Russia
Kosovo je srpska zemlja = Kosovo is Serbian land

Greece - PAOK Salonica
Greece

Greece
The Greeks held a banner ZORAN VUJOVIĆ NO SURRENDER the other one says Sini sjajno sunce sa Kosova, ne damo te zemljo Dušanova = Shine bright sun from Kosovo, we will never surrender you land of Dušan (Serbian Tsar)

 
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sep 21, 07
lesser
  Feb 24, 08, 09:30  #320

Crnogorac wrote:
@ Lesser the transparent means Kosovo is Serbia in cyrillic.


Looks different than this one. Because of capital letters?
http://i26.tinypic.com/2z6f0yh.jpg

 
Member
Posts: 1361
Joined: Oct 19, 07
Filios1
  Feb 24, 08, 10:14  #321

Crow wrote:
Nataša Bekvalac - Ne mogu


Wow! What a girl... I need to make a trip out to Serbia again : )
Crow, can you tell this girl that she has at least one admirer in Greece?

 
Member
Posts: 1551
Joined: Nov 13, 07
southern
  Feb 24, 08, 11:36  #322

Albania is Albania(till now).

 
Member
Posts: 4217
Joined: May 17, 07
lesser
  Feb 25, 08, 04:33  #323

Tusk basically admitted that position of the "Polish" government on Kosovo was made in Brussels and Washington and not in Warsaw. This is a fact that Poland is independent on the paper only, they don't even hide this anymore. Tusk dare to compare Poland with Baltic countries which recognized Kosovo, this clearly shows where is Poland's place in the EU according to him.

Tusk on Kosovo

And below former stance of his foreign minister Sikorski, guess what? Nine months ago his stand on Kosovo was exactly opposite. Those people are foreign lapdogs and don't represent interests of Poland.

Sikorski on Kosovo

 
Member
Posts: 1361
Joined: Oct 19, 07
Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Feb 25, 08, 05:17  #324

lesser wrote:
And below former stance of his foreign minister Sikorski, guess what? Nine months ago his stand on Kosovo was exactly opposite. Those people are foreign lapdogs and don't represent interests of Poland.


I think in our business is to be on side our government is. Defianately not on Russian.
Independence of Kosovo can cause Independece of countries like

Bask country

North Italy

Catalon country

Scotland

...

(btw I mentioned true nations who have the law to be independent, Alabnian imigrants living in Kosovo is different case but it wasn't our idea to create this country)

And it is in our business because of many different reasons.


Serbs have choosen Russians and Russia is their protector not EU, thay have made their choice. They have done everything to lose their reputation on west, and they are Russians satelite because they sold whole energetic sector for Russians and in future they will do what Russians will tell them to do, so they are rather our opponents than alies. They have paid for Russians for help , it is Russians job to protect them. it is not possible to be in the same moment Polish and Russian friend.

Yes Serbs are right in some points, but what kind of dialoque they have choosen ?

 
Member
Posts: 2580
Joined: Sep 1, 07
lesser
Edited by: lesser  Feb 25, 08, 05:50  #325

Lukasz wrote:
I think in our business is to be on side our government is. Defianately not on Russian.


Our politicians babbling many years about how we want to transport oil and gas from Caspian Sea areas. We want to buy oil from Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, the first have big Russian minority in the north and the second problems with Armenians in Upper Karabah. We want to transport this oil via Georgia and Ukraine, the first have problems with unrecognized republics of Abkhazja and South Ossetia, the second have autonomous Republic of Crimea populated by Russians. Neither of these countries recognized Kosovo and we indirectly undermine their territorial integrity. In the name of what? Greater Albania? Policy of our government have no sense at all.

 
Member
Posts: 1361
Joined: Oct 19, 07
celinski
  Feb 25, 08, 08:41  #326

Crow wrote:
i going to revange my grandmother now``



And you feel his grandmother would have approved?

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
southern
  Feb 25, 08, 08:47  #327

celinski wrote:



And you feel his grandmother would have approved?


No.His grandmother enjoyed the raping by the Albanians.You seldom have such a chance.Idiot grandson.Now he is again with his grandmother.
This time as an identified dead body.

 
Member
Posts: 4217
Joined: May 17, 07
celinski
  Feb 25, 08, 08:50  #328

southern wrote:
This time as an identified dead body


So very sad, how are things there now, I stayed away for the weekend, any good news?

 
Member
Posts: 2762
Joined: Nov 14, 07
southern
  Feb 25, 08, 08:52  #329

celinski wrote:
So very sad, how are things there now


Let's ask Crow.

 
Member
Posts: 4217
Joined: May 17, 07
jones101
  Feb 25, 08, 08:54  #330

Crow is busy burning some flags and chanting slogans.

 
Member
Posts: 582
Joined: Jan 14, 08
 
  «« 1 2 ... 9 10 [11] 12 13 ... 30 31  »» Similar Threads | Latest | Unanswered | Random  Go UPtop of page

Home / Poland Politics & History /


Only registered and logged-in users may post here. Please login or register.

Newer thread in this forum: Older thread in this forum:
PIS and PO - what is the difference in their programs? Ketrzyn camp


70 users online in the last hour [Guests - 52 / Members - 18] All times are CST (GMT -6)

Home . Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts . Random Topic . Statistics

© 2005-08 PolishForums.com | About Us | Contact Us | Privacy, TOS, Rules | Poland Advertising |