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hansi
  Oct 28, 07, 01:56  #1

My parents were Polish and they always used to make sour milk by leaving glasses of milk to go off and then leave them in the fridge for a few days. Mmmmmmmm... delicious. I have tried to make it but with the treatment of today's milk, it dosen't work. But, by heating up the milk first, letting it cool, adding two spoons of Kefir to it and putting it in the airing cupboard for few day, it's superb. Just like the old days!

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zuzi0mail
  Oct 28, 07, 03:12  #2

Bleh, my parents do this too. Not that devine. Makes the house smell. I usually try drink out all the milk BEFORE it gets sour so that they have nothing to work with. Its worked so far.

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Snow Queen
Edited by: Snow Queen  Oct 28, 07, 08:47  #3

It used to make my stomoch turn when my dad did that. Eehwww

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z_darius
  Oct 28, 07, 09:07  #4

that method can be also used to make your own cottage cheese. One difference though - you don't just heat it up, but instead keep it on low heat for a few hours until you see the white stuff is separated from the watery (yellowy color) fluid. The next step is to drain the whole thing with cottage cloth (ususaly overnight) , and thus be ready to make a real cheese cake.

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JustysiaS
  Oct 28, 07, 09:47  #5

Quoting: hansi
My parents were Polish and they always used to make sour milk by leaving glasses of milk to go offand then leave them in the fridge for a few days. Mmmmmmmm... delicious. I have tried to make it but with the treatment of today's milk, it dosen't work. But, by heating up the milk first, letting it cool, adding two spoons of Kefir to it and putting it in the airing cupboard for few day, it's superb. Just like the old days!


mmm kwaśne mleko. i love it!

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krysia
  Oct 28, 07, 12:06  #6

My dad would go to a farmer and get raw milk straight from a cow then he would make the kwasne mleko and eat it with potatos and koperek.
YUK!!!!

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z_darius
  Oct 28, 07, 12:28  #7

Quoting: krysia
kwasne mleko and eat it with potatos and koperek.
YUK!!!!

yummyyyyyy!!!!

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krysia
  Oct 28, 07, 13:18  #8

Quoting: z_darius
yummyyyyyy!!!!

OK, so maybe it's not that bad, but I never did like it. Some Polish dishes are made by letting them stand for days, like żurek, bigos, serwatka, kwaśne mleko.
I like the fresh stuff. The other junk does funny things to your bowels.

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z_darius
  Oct 28, 07, 13:20  #9

Quoting: krysia
Some Polish dishes are made by letting them stand for days, like żurek, bigos, serwatka, kwaśne mleko.

They are not "let" stand for days. That's how you make them, or how you make them acquire the right taste. (think wine)

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krysia
  Oct 28, 07, 13:24  #10

Quoting: z_darius
They are not "let" stand for days.

OK. They are "ordered" to stand for days.
Cheese too. That's why cheese and wine go together.

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osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Oct 28, 07, 13:27  #11

Quoting: krysia
They are "ordered" to stand for days.

Be firm with them. Otherwise, they might run away.

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CrazyFarmer [Guest]
  Nov 22, 07, 10:22  #12

We used to have a gentleman buy RAW milk off from us that had NOT been cooled at the farm.... He used it to make Kwasne Mleko.

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plk123
  Nov 22, 07, 11:04  #13

Quoting: z_darius

that method can be also used to make your own cottage cheese. One difference though - you don't just heat it up, but instead keep it on low heat for a few hours until you see the white stuff is separated from the watery (yellowy color) fluid. The next step is to drain the whole thing with cottage cloth (ususaly overnight) , and thus be ready to make a real cheese cake.

you actually heat it after it has separated. in the US the milk and all associated products are pasteurized so letting it stand only makes it spoil not move on to another phase. there are natural products available at the "health food" stores that an addition of helps with natural cheese making process.

btw. it takes a lot of milk to make cheese. 1gal makes maybe one serving of farmer's cheese.

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beckski
  Nov 22, 07, 11:28  #14

Quoting: plk123
it takes a lot of milk to make cheese


I was astonished at the amount of milk required, when we made a small amount of cheese, in a biology lab at school.

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osiol ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 22, 07, 12:01  #15

I had thought about making cheese at home this year but it didn't happen. I'm not sure how to get hold of unpasteurised milk and I didn't have enough cardoon flowers (rennet substitute, traditionally used for cheese-making in some Mediterranean parts). So maybe next year.

I don't so much like the sound of just leaving some milk to go off. Maybe you need untreated milk and the right stuff floating around in the atmosphere. There is some Belgian beer I have heard of that is made with natural yeasts from the atmosphere rather than cultured strains used in nearly all brewing. Looks like I have some work to do.

Quoting: beckski
biology lab

Doesn't make it sound appetising.

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cyg ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Nov 23, 07, 10:21  #16

I've been wondering about why some people turn up their noses at sour milk, but will eat yoghurt without any problems. The name makes all the difference, I guess. Call it "organic yoghurt" and watch it become the next health food craze.

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lukkija
  Nov 23, 07, 10:32  #17

Sour milk is not that bad rich in vitamins and proteins.
I presume that was the main reason why Slavic tribes started to make it centuries ago.
It just makes you full quickly, provides energy from proteins and calcium along with vitamin C (sic!) produced through the process of bacterial fermentation.
You need them when it's so cold out there :)
Same with sour kraut, gherkins and pickles.
Enjoy :)

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Annya [Guest]
  Sep 29, 08, 22:20  #18

Hello. Does anyone know about how sour milk was used and then fried in a pan to make a soft, spreadable cheese? I'd be interested in finding a recipe if someone can lead me to a site. Thanks :)

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plk123
  Sep 29, 08, 22:31  #19

z_darius:

yummyyyyyy!!!!

that's what i was thinking too.

and yeah, the homo milk likes to spoil instead of sour. :(

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Polonius3
  Oct 17, 08, 15:38  #20

Zsiadłe mleko (clabbered sour milk) is now commercially available and packaged as such in Poland and in Polish shops abroad.

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Polonius3
  Oct 18, 08, 05:40  #21

Twaróg (white curd cheese or farmer cheese), whether home-made or shop-bought*, undergoes what is known in Polish as zgliwienie. That means it is on the verge of fermentation and starts getting a bit slimy round the edges. In that form it is fried until melted. Traditonally it is seasoned with pepper, sweet paprika, possibly caraway and simmered a while longer. When it cools the gooey, rubbery mass can be spread on bread or, if it is stiff enough, sliced. It's not bad, esp. with generous vodka or beer accompaniment.

*Nowadays the comemrcially sold white cheese may be lace with spoilage retardants and may therefore not produce a palatable end-product.

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