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Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK


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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 18:21  #61

osiedle-Ruda you guys should immigrate come over to Las Vegas.
we need a polish population out here.

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Osiedle_Ruda [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 18:32  #62

Quoting: AmirahJanowitz
osiedle-Ruda you guys should immigrate come over to Las Vegas.
we need a polish population out here.


Why do you "need" a Polish population???? Genuine question, btw.

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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 18:34  #63

becuase there are a lot of asians and mexicans and other people here.
I would like some Polish people here. there is a lot of money jobs and oppertunity here. vegas would be a funner place.cuase I want to be involved with the polish community.

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kasia12 [Guest]
  Oct 26, 07, 20:50  #64

I´m Polish and I live and study in Spain,I´m terrified,because what I read is difficult to understand.what is going on in England is far from normal.I hear about such agression from part of British people to Polish people.what about you?you can rarely find a message about British woman raped and murdered in Poland,so why you are behaving in such a brutal way???????a teenager raped and killed,other one raped and murdered,next one raped and burnt alive.in Poland we have much more culture and tolarance as far as I know...unless we consider our nation as very closed and traditional,sometins xenofobic.but we raise our children to be polite and good people,maybe before calling Polish inmigrants ¨trash¨ just think what a peace of¨s*** are you

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truebrit
  Oct 27, 07, 00:45  #65

Quoting: kasia12
I hear about such agression from part of British people to Polish people.what about you?you can rarely find a message about British woman raped and murdered in Poland,so why you are behaving in such a brutal way???????a teenager raped and killed,other one raped and murdered,next one rape


Over the past 3 years over 1.5 million Polish people have spent time living and working in Britain.As far as I am aware 5 Polish women have been murdered during that time.One was killed by her Portugese boyfriend,one was killed by a paedophile in Scotland,one was killed unintentionally during a gunfight between black youths,one 14 year old girl was killed by a neighbour(now awaiting trial) and the 5th was horrifically killed by burning.These are all terrible crimes but they had nothing to do with the victims being Polish.
If 1.5 million British people came to Poland and lived in the poorer,rougher areas of Polish cities do you think none at all would suffer violence?
I agree that most of the Polish I meet are polite but I know that not all are because there are a small number that have come to the UK and also murdered people.

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wildrover
  Oct 27, 07, 05:53  #66

Quoting: kasia12
agression from part of British people to Polish people.


I may be wrong , but i don,t think there has been any Polish person killed in uk , just because they were Polish.....Most Poles don,t have any problems with UK people.....A lot of people in UK are a bit worried about the large numbers of Poles coming to England.,,, but i don,t think there is any great racial problem......


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Giles [Guest]
  Oct 27, 07, 06:42  #67

My missus was mugged three times and burgled in London when she first came over. She was living in the Brixton area. Her naivety is probably what led to these episodes. As for the burglry, well that was a nasty episode with one of her female flat mates being robbed at knife point. i shall not mention the colour of the attacker since I'll be alled prejudice, b ut have a guess.

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Grzegorz_
  Oct 27, 07, 06:44  #68

Quoting: Giles
b ut have a guess.


N. ?


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Giles [Guest]
  Oct 27, 07, 06:49  #69

No comment. Am off to pub. Hi Greg I'm in Poland now and I love it great country.

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osiol
  Oct 27, 07, 06:53  #70

Quoting: Giles
flat mates being robbed at knife point

When I was a student, I had a gun pointed at me in a robbery that was actually in someone's house.

Quoting: Giles
i shall not mention the colour of the attacker

I shall. They were white. Heroin addicts.


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 27, 07, 07:06  #71

Quoting: Giles
I'm in Poland now and I love it great country.


But the weather sucks...


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liverpoolfan [Guest]
  Oct 27, 07, 08:04  #72

Hell to all those people who have been touched by this brutal and pointless killing of a young girl.
I myself am married to a Polish Girl,i am English, but does it amke any difference?
Yhe Polixh community in England have bought so much to England, expertise,humour and a love of life.
I send mu condolences to the family,i just cant imagine the pain and anguish they must be going through.
May you have strength in the days ahead.

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liverpoolfan [Guest]
  Oct 27, 07, 08:11  #73

Giles what part of Poland are you now residing in

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BubbaWoo
  Oct 27, 07, 08:33  #74

hes in wejherowo

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telefonitika
  Oct 27, 07, 08:44  #75

Quoting: kasia12
maybe before calling Polish inmigrants ¨trash


never have, never will ... but i guess your message is for the minority eh?

Quoting: Giles
living in the Brixton area


not a classy area only been once to an athlete gig at carling academy and even then loads of groups of lads walking around together .... then when finished the gig loads of police about for crowd safety.


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BubbaWoo
  Oct 27, 07, 08:50  #76

i grew up in and around brixton... its a special place...

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wildrover
  Oct 27, 07, 11:05  #77

Small world Bubba..I lived for a while in Elm park Brixton , just off Brixton hill.....opposite the prison.....


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Wroclaw
  Oct 27, 07, 11:30  #78

I lived opposite the big Tesco store. Up the road from the town hall.


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BubbaWoo
  Oct 27, 07, 11:34  #79

i lived just off railton rd - the frontline...

spent a number of years just up the road in tulse hill

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Shawn_H
  Oct 27, 07, 11:41  #80

Clash - guns of brixton - great song.


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Frank
Edited by: Frank  Oct 27, 07, 12:46  #81

Sad to note guys, it always goes to my heart when the innocents of the world are treated so brutally, and a young girl whose family went to try and make their lives better is so savagely murdered.

I hope the board doesn't mind me posting this link....

http://somebodygotmurdered.blogspot.com/2007/10/jane-doe.html

Odds are, judging from the name that the murderer was of Irish origin.

I do hope her family can recover, but I suspect their lives will be blighted by this memory for an eternity.......somethings you can never put behind you.



Unfortunately I note other murders of Polish(?) people.

Again apols if this annoys or upsets board members.....

http://somebodygotmurdered.blogspot.com/2007/10/jane-doe_03.html


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wildrover
  Oct 27, 07, 17:19  #82

Quoting: BubbaWoo
railton rd - the frontline...


Did you know the song ( we gonna rock on down to elecric avenue ) was written about Railton road Brixton..


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Oct 27, 07, 19:11  #83

it wasnt called the frontline for nothing... and then we'll take it higher... ;-)

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Patrycja19
  Oct 27, 07, 21:10  #84

Quoting: kasia12
so why you are behaving in such a brutal way???????a teenager raped and killed,other one raped and murdered,next one raped and burnt alive.in Poland we have much more culture and tolarance as far as I know...unless we consider our nation as very closed and traditional,sometins xenofobic.but we raise our children to be polite and good people,


yes so does the british, but your forgetting that britian has more then one nationality
immigrating, so it could have been anyone.

just because it happened in britian, doesnt mean it was someone british.
we had a guy who murdered three young teens near a school and he wasnt even
American and was here illegally still. so remember it could be someone who isnt
even a citizen.

keep a open mind and wait for the truth.. let the authorities do their jobs.


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Patrycja19
  Oct 27, 07, 21:14  #85

Quoting: Frank
Odds are, judging from the name that the murderer was of Irish origin.


as i suspected.. not that he was irish, but it shows that it could be anyone, and
its not always going to be british or Polish that it happens to either.. its just unfortunate that we have sick saddistic bast*rds who dont deserve to walk this earth
with any breath of life in them when they feel no remorse for the life they took!!!!

arghhhhhh..


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osiol
  Oct 27, 07, 21:21  #86

Surnames in the UK don't always say much about the origin.
For example, some Irish names have been here for quite a long time.


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wildrover
  Oct 27, 07, 21:41  #87

It really does not matter if the guy was from the planet mars , he is a murderer who took a young life , and brought a lifetime of pain for her family.....Scum are not confined only to one race or colour....I am not sad and angry that a young Polish girl died in the country of my birth , i am just sad a angry a young girl died........


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Frank
  Oct 28, 07, 04:46  #88

Quoting: wildrover
It really does not matter if the guy was from the planet mars


So true......but trying to give some Polish members a flavour of what the mix is in the UK, ie someone noted the less than salubrious area they had moved to...always a likelihood of more crime, more risk; plus the hugely diverse and difficult to understand make up of UK society.

But perhaps the perception of migrants is that UK is a safe, well behaved society......not very true, the rates of criminality is unbelievable.......and in certain areas more dangerous than downtown Baghdad!!


700 plus murders in UK pa.....tiny compared to USA 18000...but the rates of assault/attack are much higher in the UK....cos you might just get shot in the USA!


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bfc1980
  Oct 28, 07, 13:20  #89

I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but the murder of the 19 yr old was the second murder of a polish girl in a month. The first was Zuza (14) and now this 19yr old. I live in Leeds with my Polish g/f and I have to say that it's quite worrying to hear that 2 polish girls have been murdered in suc h a short space of time. She's a student, I work and with the days getting shorter I'm worried about her coming home from uni alone. Fortunately we live in Alwoodley (considered to be a nice area of Leeds) although we are aware that these terrible things can happen anywhere.

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Oct 28, 07, 14:03  #90

Quoting: bfc1980
it's quite worrying to hear that 2 polish girls have been murdered in suc h a short space of time


- Yes it is. I haven't heard of a murder of young girls of other foreign nationalities in the UK. By the way, the hate-spreading media hacks in the UK create the climate of permissiveness to abuse Poles. They are as guilty of abuses against us as the criminals themselves.


Quoting: bfc1980
I'm worried about her coming home from uni alone


- You are right to be worried. Don't trust the seeming safety of the nice neighbourhood, but keep an eye on your girlfriend whenever you can. And perhaps both of you try to leave Leeds as soon as possible. I hope you'll be moving back to Poland eventually?

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