Polish Thoughts on Britain and the British

I know what you mean, after my coming back to Poland I wanted run away from Poland after watching news. Internal rows (on the governmant level) have been our attitudes since Poland exist. I hate it. And I really envy British that they have really stable governmant with intelligent people. Look at Beger, Leper (their names are even hopeless

do you mean the British government are intelligent or the British people? I saw a recent study that said that the Polish had the 2nd highest IQ score in Europe (after Germany) with Britain coming 8th. We have people in our government who certainly aren't the brightest (I only need mention John Prescott!!!!!)

Walking back from Wandsworth Town today (Chav central).
I noticed sprayed onto boards surrounding a building site the graffiti "******* Poles stole our jobs". I'm assuming by some out of work chav.
I couldn't help laughing even my missus was laughing. These sad sad Brits who are angry at Poles don't desserve jobs. fat over weight kebab munching larger swilling louts with there fat, mcdonald craving wives and kids. I hope more Poles come over and this untermensch in British society suffers mass heart failure.
The basic fact is this those Poles that come to the Uk come to work. many lower class Brits exploit the benefits system and never aspire to **** all. I hate them.
I think we should give benefits to disabled people, single mothers. But men of working age especially in cities like London should work, no excuse.
They will claim the dole and moan about Poles and other nationalities stealing "their" work.
But will they do the jobs the immigrants do, nope.

Nice to know that
But I didn't say about polish people generally. Our education is really good but we have in our governmant people who are after primary schools.
There is so much corruption, nobody who is normal goes involved themselves into politics in Poland because they have no honour. It is difficult to explaine but I really disappointed. I remamber that it used to be worse when i was a child but lost my hope for living in stable and wise country.

E. you get them everywhere....

Poles support,

Be careful what you wish for. The last time the brits found themselves out of work, due to immigration, they took matters into their own hands. I see a lot of Polish people ending up in hospital and very soon. Certain sections of the community can only take so much.
This is not a threat. It is just the way I see things. But as usual, we have discussed this all before.

That was bright!! have a little bit of respect for your fellow countrymen, of course there are those that are not worth the air that I breath but you really dont need to put people down in such a way...



Why on earth should I give my money to someone who decides to have kids...not my problem...sorry!!

While we're on about benefits you will be happy to know that our govenment has finally decided that these people in England that cant even speak English will no longer get benefits....YEAH!!!

Mr W, I dont mind the Polish being over in the UK, yes they work hard but the labour pool has been filled and still more people are coming to the UK and now the new arrivals that will work for less than the Polish...I do honestly see something happening and something not very nice...

I dont really understand why british are so much against polish, we have not been first and for sure not the last there. What about people from Pakistan, india, and other Asian and african countries and other countries from Europe... it makes my laugh

What with british muslims from Birmingham who were born there and they dont feel any britishness, I have been there and city looked like skid row

E. on building sites at the moment men are being told that their contracts are up and on the Monday, Polish contractors are coming in - for less money, this is what is causing the problem.

My friends husband lost his job a couple of weeks ago in this kind of situation...

Maybe I can put in these terms

10 Polish men working on a building site, they are all married couple of kids and a mortgage and are living comfortable working for say 15 zl an hour

Then

10 Bulgarians come along and offer their services for 7 zl an hour, they are young they dont have families with them to support, they live together so the bills are minimal and they dont have the comfortable life style...they are saving all the money that they are earning...

I am sorry that he lost a job. I am not proud that sb was hurt because of other Poles.

But........he lost his job because of other british man who decided hire polish for less money, so who is worse that polish or that british??

That's the world!! World is hard!! And trust me we know it better that any british.

So true there ... but this could be said also of many people in other areas of the UK as a whole .. many of them out of work wouldnt do what the Polish do ie work shifts in factories etc etc ... but because the Polish are hard-working, highly attentive at work (ie i have never known any that i know take a day of work for nothing) and puntuatual etc they find that somewhat downgrading and say all the b*ll*cks that they say ... like f*c*ing polish taking all our jobs ... polish get rent free fully furnished houses etc etc -- i hear it all the time ... it amounts to nothing more than plain and simple jealously at end of the day in my mind.

I have a lot of respect for them as many have degree and have skilled that could have them having better jobs than in warehouses, factories and such like ... and though they try to get into fields where they are able to use this skills ... i think they are quite happy working where they work ... they have the odd moan like the rest of the worlds population but they get the work done

If that happens, you better take your things and leave.

it is not only English people losing jobs due to the availability of cheaper labour from Eastern Europe. My Polish bf has been in the UK for 5 years and had built up a successful business in painting and decorating.. however since Poland joined the EU and now with the recent influx of Romanians and Bulgarians he is having a hard time finding any work since is is unwilling to work for £50 a day (or less) and there is always someone ready to work for peanuts... however, it is ulitmately the employers who will suffer since if you pay a crap wage, then you must expect to get crap work for it.

When I was a child I loved Monty Python, Hotel Zacisze (Fawlty Towers), Allo, Allo, stories and movies about Robin Hood (not a bit like our Janosik?or Wilhelm Tell and many more. Howeve don't forget we have a knowledge about your history, literature and culture also from our schools and because of private hobby. And we enjoy it. We Polish are ambitious nation, love to feel helpfull and needed and we are also sons of powerfull kingdom which Poland was. My friends who were travelling to UK before our great migration to England, felt much better then now. A lot of Polish LOVED travelling to legendary Albion, because they wanted to discover history, found King Arthur's sword, taste the legend, now can feel made to do it, i.e. economical situation etc. and in the heart they are suffering, because we cannot feel like the partners sometimes and then it starts stupid discussion between us like: polish (beeeeeep) contra english (beeeeep). Maybe we sometimes angry, upset and drunk but never do acts of terrorism against you, cause we don't hate you, maybe sometimes we just feel not understood and no approciated like a nation, like a people, like a workers and like the potentional friends by you.

Foxy, but Isn't there a minimal wage, which is something like 5 pounds per h, so If someone, who is cleaning closets gets 5P/h then better jobs simply have to be better paid ? And If some greedy employers pay less than minimum or employ illegaly Bulgarians or Romanians then who's fault is that ? They would find one way or another to cheat people even without Poles, Romanians or Bulgarians. Besides how many Poles is there in UK ? 600 thousand ? Even If all of them work that's what ? 2% of work force ? And unemployment rate in UK is... 5% ? So in fact there's no unemplyment at all. There's no rational reasons for the whole "Poles steal our jobs" crap and I've got a feeling that we are way too nice for you.

What will you do, throw stones at us or what?


Ill tell you sth you should be grateful for having white non problem ppl who are willing to work and do all **** jobs you dont want and pay benefits for british lazy fat asses (a few pertent of society). You should be really grateful for tha because we saved your economy.

Thanks so much Magdushya, this is fascinating showing what access to British culture you had - "fawlty towers" and "Allo Allo" (which shows our portrayal of the French) and that legends about King Arthur that resonated with you. I always imagined that British history taught abroad would look at empire, the Battle of Hastings and 20th century world wars. I really like the idea that Arthurian legends were told to you.

I understand that many Poles are coming to the UK to make some money but i think it is sad that they feel they can't explore/look for the home of Arthur's sword or visit Sherwood forest.
My experience of Poles in Britain is entirely positive and there are plenty of other people that think it has been great to meet and interact with all the new arrivals too. I live in Streatham (london) and you can notice the influence everywhere. Polish delicatessen are opening, adverts in Polish at bus-stops and Polish beer in shops. I am worried when people assume that immigrants arrive to take advantage of welfare systems, rather than people who want to make a better life for themselves and learn new things and skills. I think many British people would be upset if they felt they were not allowed to move to other countries themselves.
I think Polish immigrants are helping to subtly changing the areas around them. I want to know if people who go back to Poland will be changed by their experience in Britain and if that will then change Poland in any way?

yes, the minimum wage is £4.50 per hour, but many people work for less than that (illegally of course). Official statistics state that there are 600,000 Poles in the UK but it is more likely to be double that (according to a report in the newspaper yesterday). However, I am not complaining, since I am in love with a Pole, just merely stating that it doesnt matter what nationality you are, but that too many migrants flooding the workplace can cause problems for those that are already here. ...and thanks for noticing that Im foxy

A little bit wrong sapphire hun

The minimum wage in the UK (check the hm revenue and custom website for up-to-date information) are the following:
£5.35 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
A development rate of £4.45 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
£3.30 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

These usually go up in October of each year!!

ok thanks.. well I was more or less right... lucky for me I guess that I dont need to know this.

you are, but that too many migrants flooding the workplace can cause problems for those that are already here. ...

Rubbish, you are spouting nationalistic claptrap. The UK has been built on migrant labour. If we sent all the non-British home, our economy would collapse overnight.
The whole point of globalization is the free movement of labour.
Yes, Sapphire you are correct about something going to happen but it will be localized riots and mainly in the North and Midlands and it will be between white working untermensch and muslim untermensch. I doubt the Poles will have any problems.
This will be not because of national lack of work, but specific regional problems.

Aye, they have

...and Essex

How can a bunch of low paid Nannies, Waiters, and Labourers save the British economy???....I take it your just jellous that were much richer than you are?

and no were not grateful either!!

Wearing national emblems on ass, feet and everything is so weird

Unfortunately the world is not ideal, so it's utopia and impossible to talking about healthy economy. We, Polish feel that we are only guests here, but we learn English and I suppose Polish guy prefer working hardly then make 5 or 6 children and live from your benefits. Is it true that child benefit is lower for British then for Pakistani? I'm here 2 years but still don't understand a lot and don't know you. Where are those great! (nomen-omen)British we liked? What about famous British sense of humor? Where are all gentelmen younger then 70 yrs? If somebody is opening the door for me in the shop etc I say: dziekuje. Many guys were suprised how could I know they are Polish. Because I've NEVER met English here who is doing it. Believe me, a lot of Polish felt they are going to FRIENDS, interesting, funny, a bit cold on the first sight, but incredibly intelligent.

Sorry, but a lot of us is changed in depressed, pseudoposh, eager for money and frustrated. Polish who I know enjoying UK only in pubs and shops! Why on many sites many English put under: "hobby" mainly: shopping and clubbing????
What about your famous culture? I want to talk about many things, but, o dear! sometimes I know MUCH more then you about yourselfs! Of course I've met brilliant people here, but too less.

Dear Magdushya,
The British culture is alive and well! In music,literature etc we still (along with America) lead the world.The problem for many Polish people is that they work in lower paid jobs and so the British people they meet tend to be the more stupid ones.Also,many Polish people need to live in the cheaper areas and the British people who live in these cheaper,poorer areas are not usually the ones with good manners etc! Soon I will make a list of the great things about the UK.

It's fantastic idea!!! However I would love to see the list not of your famouse writers, singers which we just know, places, cathedrals, castels which we just know also etc etc . I would like to hear where I can meet openminded and openhearted people, how to understand you, how to be appreciated by you.



Hmmm, you know, it's a bit strange why I cannot find right job if I'm well educated, frequently awarded by Univerity of Education because of my achievements. Why England don't give many possibilities of deserving jobs for Polish? Do you need us only to low-paid and dirty works?