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miranda
  Nov 19, 06, 09:37  #31

Quoting: Wroclaw, Post #13
You may think me naive on this subject but I'm willing to learn.

There is a long history of hatered between those 2 nations due to conflicts over the centuries.
At one point Ukraine was inhabited by a Polish population, especialle the western part of it.

Since Polish had a lot of land and lost it, the feeling of hatered, especially on Polish side have escalated. Some Polish people still want to claim those lands nowdays.
I don't desregard the crimes both of the nations have comitted against each other.

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Bartolome
  Nov 19, 06, 10:16  #32

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #40
Spaniard’s and Hispanics don't think much about Polish people.

My pal was a quite long time in Spain, and told me that if a Spaniard wants to isult a Catalonian, they call them a 'Polish'.

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BubbaWoo
  Nov 19, 06, 10:36  #33

i moved to poland after 3 years in madrid... was really suprised at the similarities between the two cultures... the joie de vivre especially...

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Bronek [Guest]
  Nov 23, 06, 09:56  #34

The opinions, observations, likes and dislikes posted are as revealing as the Country of Poland. A recent visit to Poland revealed that there are people, young people, who are intent on modernizing the Country overnight and there are others, the elder generation, who make an equally determined effort to return the country to pre WWII standards.

While in Poland we visited the cities where our ancestors lived, where we were born, and the City where we lived at the onset of WWII.

It is the contrast between the cities and rural Poland that was most stricking. Rural Poland relies on living horse power, candle power, and outside wells; in contrast the cities are modernising at breakneck speed to become more and more like the rest of Western Europe.

We perceived many Polish People as exhibiting feelings of rejection by the West. If possible they would errase the 50 years of Communist Rule to join the Western states of Europe. Alas, that is not going to happen overnight. There are too many remnants of that rule still present, not the least of which is the expectation of the retiring population that were promised everything by that state. There is also the exploitation of the ex-Commust polititians of the elderly in Poland, 'I will restore everything promised as soon as you elect me.'

There is no "Marshall Plan" for Poland! Have we forgotten that it was the "Marshall Plan" that rebuilt Europe? To include such states as England, Germany, France, Belgium, Holland, etc., virtually every country adversely affected by the war on the Western side of the Iron Curtain.

It will take the next fifty years for Poland to regain its stature, respect of neighboring states, and economic viability on the European continent. It is painful to observe the Country of my birth, fifty plus years after the war, still adversely affected by the devastation visited upon it by the German and Russian onslought to start WWII.

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 3, 06, 17:40  #35

Americans don't like the French and it is mutual. My sister went to Poland via Paris and stayed there a few days. When she talked in English to the ordinary French people she met, and was asked where she was from (accent) she was saying - "from United States". She could 'feel" the chill in the conversation after that, but when she said she was Polish, they were much nicer. Isn't it strange?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 4, 06, 08:51  #36

I’m not Polish but my Polish friends have all indicated a dislike of Russians, Germans, and French in that order- I’ve never heard a Pole say a kind word for a Russian, but I also note they don’t class Ukrainians as Russian.

And I have heard plenty of nasty things said about Roma and Jew, in that order.

I’m not saying all Poles [I only have met about 100 to the extent of having deep conversations] fit this mould, but I imagine that these prejudices are common among Polish.

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dulciana
Edited by: dulciana  Dec 4, 06, 09:26  #37

I hope (and think) that you may be wrong about the 50 year developmet of Poland.

The young Poles I have met are sooooo energetic, such natural winners in the workplace and often extremely well educated, they hold the key to the future. OK....we may have to loan Poland a few from here in the UK....but you know what I mean.

The EC development funding could do for Poland what it did for Ireland, and that hasn't taken very long.

I also think that the Polish/English connection is going to be very strong in the financial and banking sectors, and that will hand Poland a great deal of real expertise on a plate.

If only you could get rid of the terrible twins!!

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WloskoPolski [Guest]
  Dec 6, 06, 03:52  #38

Quoting: Kowalski, Post #8
Poles feel symphaty toward:
1. USA
2. Italy

Well...good news

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LOlek [Guest]
  Dec 6, 06, 11:48  #39

Im Polish,I Like Russians, Ukrainians, Czechs, I love my slavic brothers. Stop saying Poles dislike Ukrainians you dumbass. As long as we are Germany neighbours(so, from the beginning) we hate them, and this wont change. Die Germans.

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dulciana
  Dec 7, 06, 09:04  #40

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #26
Czech’s on the fifth place? All my friends that visited Czech rep. had really bad experiences with it’s inhabitants. As long as they spoke to them in German they were really polite, but the minute my friends started to talk among themselves in Polish the attitude of most Czech’s they had met changed drastically for worse.

I suppose they must have met the wrong people though.



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That's interesting, because I've had a few bad experiences with Czechs as an Englishman.

One turned out to be quite a thief and a liar.

What amsued me was the fact that the thief and liar called Polish pople, "More stupid than chickens"

When working last year with many young Poles, I was very popular because I talked to them about Poland and always listened to any problems they had.

One boy would stand in the background saying nothing, and I guessed he was just shy or something. The one day he walked up to tme and asked, "Do you like little Luithuania?"

"Yes, I'm sure I would," I replied.

"Oh good! I need CV in English writing!"

He got it done of course....how could I refuse?

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aleksy [Guest]
  Dec 22, 06, 01:02  #41

kowalski, i wouldnt say polish and german culture is the same, i can understand if you said polish and russian/ukrainian culture is the same but german? i think poles and all east europeans tend not to like each other. poles and russians ( very similar, hate each other) serbs and croats (very similar, hate each other) its weird and doesnt make sence but whatever. i think its more of the older slavs that have this feeling towards each other or the ones who live there still obviosly, i live in canada and alot of my buddys are poles, russians, serbs and no body cares were all slavic and thats it.

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Tom_Poland
  Dec 22, 06, 01:24  #42

Personally speaking, I don't like overgeneralisation - Poles hate Russians, Pakistans hate Indians, etc. The truth is that this is rather a "state's policy" expressed by media and many people tend to see it as a general attitude of the whole nation. It's wrong. We can hate just individuals (and this is something normal, for there are a lot of freaks who are so hostile and prejudiced against others), but not the whole countries. That's all.

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Frank
  Dec 22, 06, 04:58  #43

Yeah...but thats all that is reported from lots of states.......cos individuals are not allowed to express their own opinions...if they do, its jail or harassment........so as its the perception...that no one contradicts the current nutter in power ....then everyone thinks the whole country thinks the same.......!

PS...about 100 of the worlds countries are run by "nutters"...do I have to list them?....lol

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Yakushi [Guest]
  Dec 27, 06, 17:36  #44

******** is what you are saying ,'Polish dilsike that'like that'
OMFG ,gyus i can say same about every other nations ,stop saying that everyone is the same ...
iam not polish ,neither bristish/american etc etc ,sorry for english

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 27, 06, 22:09  #45

Quoting: aleksy, Post #62
east europeans tend not to like each other. poles and russians ( very similar, hate each other) serbs and croats (very similar, hate each other) its weird and doesnt make sence


You forgot to mention that Germans and French hate each other too.

This kind of general statements is pretty obsolete nowadays. Children are not born with their hate toward a certain nation. This comes later when some people begin to hate based on the history between the nations.
Just watch the Palestinian 5 year old boys throwing stones at Jews.

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Lonestranger [Guest]
  Jan 4, 07, 08:04  #46

Quoting: FISZ, Post #2
I know that there are a lot of poles that dislike Germans....the one's that I've met anyway. They say that Germans still think they are superior.


You have heard true...germans do think that they are superior.
Although I do not hate germans, I have nothing really to do with them. I dont love nor hate them.

Lithuanians... its like any other country, and its good to know that wentka has some lithania in herself aswell

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kitten
  Jan 4, 07, 09:18  #47

Quoting: krysia, Post #35

Do many French speak english?

my friends had bad experiences with that .. some told me that french want to use french language even if they understand english and so they r not very hospital( i speak about the shops and offices) ...and i also heard 1 thing : people from paris are very linked to paris way to pronounce french words and they often pretend not to understand other french speaking their own way.
in italy i know many people that like french language for its looking elegant ( i don't agree) ,but many others dislike them because they r too proud of themselves in many things : food, culture, monuments... and they r always in competition with us italians.
...u all know Monica Bellucci,right? well , she is italian but since she has been living in france she magically '' forgot'' italian and now she only speaks french...isn't that a ridiculous ,fool thing too?

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Grzegorz_
  Jan 4, 07, 09:34  #48

Quoting: Lonestranger, Post #67
Lithuanians... its like any other country


I like them

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Lonestranger [Guest]
  Jan 4, 07, 09:55  #49

Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #69
I like them


...good then!...i

Id like to visit there someday!...lol i like to visit everyplace someday ... but hm... lets see...

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Lonestranger [Guest]
  Jan 4, 07, 09:59  #50

Quoting: aleksy, Post #62
kowalski, i wouldnt say polish and german culture is the same, i can understand if you said polish and russian/ukrainian culture is the same but german? i think poles and all east europeans tend not to like each other. poles and russians ( very similar, hate each other) serbs and croats (very similar, hate each other) its weird and doesnt make sence but whatever. i think its more of the older slavs that have this feeling towards each other or the ones who live there still obviosly, i live in canada and alot of my buddys are poles, russians, serbs and no body cares were all slavic and thats it.


Ur right... and even being slavic should stop us from meeting other people... however, I feel kowalski has something to do with german... if so... then so sorry to say that germans are not like Poles in any way whatsoever! And let german be away from the warmth of friendship and the heat of hatred from any nation. You dont deserve hatred, sympathy or love (atleast that is my personal opinion, which i share with many poles, and also probably with many people around the GLOBE!!!).

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 4, 07, 10:06  #51

i like germany greatly - i am fortunate enough to have lived there for some time and have had the pleasure of dating some beautiful german women... well... one in particular...

that said... i am hardpushed to see many similarities between the two countries... other than at a pretty base level... which suprises me to an extent given their proximity and the history they share...

i of course understand the animosity of many poles towards germans... i think its a pity though as both a great countries and potentially have a lot to give and share with each other...

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Casper [Guest]
  Jan 4, 07, 10:55  #52

I've lived in France (being half french) and lived in Germany JHQ Rheindalen. France rocked, I enjoyed Germany but being stuck on a military base wasn't too exciting, however, we were only 20 minutes from Holland So Germany was quite hazy for me

True the Poles and Germans have history but hey don't we all. Europeans in general get along with each other. it tends to be us English that cause problems especially the travelling chav element. They have practically ruined the South of Spain. Costa Del Crime etc.

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David_18
  Jan 5, 07, 09:49  #53

Everything will be good when we will get back Lwow Minsk Kiev And Riga and ofcourse Vilnius. Polish people are greedy people we like to qonquer other slavic so called "brothers" and let them work on our big plantages as slaves. just read about how we the threatet ukrainan peopleon our plantages in our glory days

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jakub [Guest]
  Jan 10, 07, 22:20  #54

Your comment is a classic illustration of a gross gegeralisation. To put things into perspective, would you mind illustrating the master-slave relationship between the Poles and Lithuanians under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

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jakub [Guest]
  Jan 10, 07, 22:26  #55

Funny that you say that about the Germans. Germans can't be compared to Slavs because the idea of a "german" is something relativley new. Germany as a state, was only formalized in the late 1800's by Bismark. If we agree to say that they think they are superior, it could be explained by the fact that their need for discipline comes from their need of structure. Without structire and a hiarchical system they can not function and fall into chaos. The down side of the German nation is that at times they are vounreable to negative types of structure (nudge, nudge, wink, wink you know what I mean)

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curyus [Guest]
  Jan 14, 07, 16:17  #56

I have been reading the posts and all are interesting, but what I want to know is what is Poland's idea of beauty and are their views of what is beautiful unique to place????

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professays [Guest]
  Jan 16, 07, 06:34  #57

I wonder what nations feel sympathy to Poles? To my mind there are no such nations. In the USA Poles are considered to be morons. Just think of the huge number of biting and even brutal anycdotes about mental abilities of Poles and their other qualities. In fact the polish nationality plays a role of a laughing-stock there. In Italy, France, England and Sweden they usually do some dirty, low paid jobs and the attitude to them is appropriate to their position in these countries.

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kaka
  Jan 16, 07, 11:27  #58

Quoting: miranda, Post #80
I like Germans - never had a bad experiance with them, although a lot of people from Poland will not agree with me.


I totally agree. dont know why but some of polish people dony like Germans.
but frankly speaking, I dont know if I'm strange or just I'm too exotic for Germans, but I cant make German friends. and I couldnt even when I was leaving in Germany... my friends from Germany are Australians !!

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Matyjasz
  Jan 16, 07, 21:04  #59

Quoting: kaka, Post #84
dont know why but some of polish people dony like Germans.


The truth is that it will take some time before both sides will completely forget about our history. On the surface everything is OK, we have the XXI century and we are civilized people. But the fact is that somewhere inside Germans do fell superior to poles, and poles feel hate to Germans. It's stronger than us.

For almost 200 years Germans were being taught that Poles are inferior, and some beliefs are hard to uproot. Especially since there are still people living that remember the WWII. I don't hate Germans. I see the similarities between us, and I have some German friends, but at the same time I know that it would take only one spark to get back to the previous situation.

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Frank
  Jan 17, 07, 03:12  #60

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #90
I know that it would take only one spark to get back to the previous situation.



Is this something personal or all you friends feel this way?

Is their an undercurrent at higher levels as to how the country feels in its dealings with German, especially the recent debacle where they insulted to your president?

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #90
For almost 200 years Germans were being taught that Poles are inferior,


Was this at school, political level at home or all three?

Have German views towards your country really changed?


In Ireland, EE people were almost "exotic" by there rarity until about 6/7 years ago.....now we realise they are long lost cousins who just speak Irish/English with an accent!

The feelings of being victims/exploited/supposedly inferior......are powerful bonding mechanisms.....but things are and have changed....

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