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Polish Visitor to Vancouver Canada killed by RCMP TASER on the Airport


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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 14:58  #31

Quoting: European view
European view


- You're quite right you prefer not to travel to Canada. There are tons of far nicer places to travel to in the world.

By the way, I hear that in some Internet survey (?), Canada was voted the most hospitable country in the world!!! SIC!!!!

Boy, oh boy!!!

... 'The most hospitable' to whom, I ask? To Third World creatures, such as the brownoser calling himself Dnalop?

See how good surveys can be?
:)

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nauczyciel
  Nov 15, 07, 15:02  #32

Puzzler... you have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands.

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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 15:02  #33

Quoting: plk123
especially in france. lol


- Well, Americans, including Canadians, are certainly being treated incomparably better in Europe, including France, than Poles are being treated by them.

I hope this will end one day.
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cleo14 [Guest]
  Nov 15, 07, 15:07  #34

i just saw the video and i think using the taser gun by that cop 3 or 4 times was totally uncalled for. that Polish guy had spent almost 10 hrs at the airport, was stressed out and at his wits' end. yes, he was acting strange, but when that cop tased him he was already sourrouned by 3 or 4 officers. please, they couldn't just knock him down? what's really disturbing though is what i saw at the end of the video, when one officer, who was sitting on the victims head took a baton ( or something of this kind) and did something that looked like hitting that dude.! And he had already been handcuffed!!! what the f***? can somebody please explain? here's the link to the article with both videos: before the cops showed up and what happend when they tased him.

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80269,4674297.html

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Wroclaw
  Nov 15, 07, 15:36  #35

The CTV report seems balanced.

This guy needn't have died.


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plk123
  Nov 15, 07, 16:16  #36

Quoting: Puzzler
Canada was voted the most hospitable country in the world!!!

that's kind of bunk man.. canadia is super beautiful, peeps are way friendlier then the yanks... the border guards however, i found on par with ZOMO. :D


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Filios1
  Nov 15, 07, 16:31  #37

Quoting: cleo14
took a baton ( or something of this kind) and did something that looked like hitting that dude.! And he had already been handcuffed!!!


I believe this officer was just retracting his "wand" or baton by hitting it into the ground to put it back into his holster.

Oh and Puzzler, you crossed the line with all your anti-Canadian comments man. Why don't you fly over to Saudi Arabia and see how you're treated there. Canada does have many incidences like this, but it's still a safe haven, FOR ALL NATIONALITIES compared to the rest of the world.


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KALISZ
Edited by: Admin  Nov 15, 07, 16:41  #38

CONDOLENCES TO ROBERTS FAMILLY!

JETT, come to Poland and say it once again!!!!!

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jd1655 [Guest]
  Nov 15, 07, 16:56  #39

If you are such a 'high level education man' you might actually come to Canada and learn something. While this incident is an absolute embarrassment ( and I completely disagree with it), it is an extreme rarity. Police here are pretty lenient, and crime is no doubt lower than in your country..

If you were as educated as you say you are, you'd know better then to judge a country based on one thing. If I did the same, I would have never spent a year living in 'violent' Italy after I saw police there, on international TV news, kill a globalization protestor with a gun and then proceed to run over his lifeless corpse in their jeep. Fortunately I know better than to judge an entire country on one bad, bad decision by very few.

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krysia
  Nov 15, 07, 16:58  #40

How sad. And his mother was waiting for 10 hours not knowing if he arrived or not. that's terrible.

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malgosia [Guest]
  Nov 15, 07, 17:37  #41

Forget about your different opinions regarding Canada and Canadians. The fact is that a Polish man was murdered by the RCMP. He was murdered and we want answers. And we want answers in previous RCMP murders in BC and Yukon. They are calling for inquiry that will likely last two years. Why so long? What is going to happen to the murderers in this case? Are they going to be suspended with or without pay?

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Nov 15, 07, 18:29  #42

Quoting: Filios1
Oh and Puzzler, you crossed the line with all your anti-Canadian comments man. Why don't you fly over to Saudi Arabia and see how you're treated there. Canada does have many incidences like this, but it's still a safe haven, FOR ALL NATIONALITIES compared to the rest of the world.


- I lived many years there, pal, so I know what I'm talking about. What do you mean I crossed the line? So if Canada has 'many incidences like this,' how can it be 'a safe haven , FOR ALL NATIONALITIES' (sic)? Don't you contradict yourself, pal? Facts show it certainly isn't a safe haven for the Poles. I will repeat what I stated before: Canadians are the most Polonophobic motley I've ever met, and I've visited tens of countries. These psychopaths, these hollow robots, seem programmed to hate Polish people. If you say to any one of them you're Polish, you either see a stupid ridiculing smirk, or his or her snout becomes grumpy and hostile. What the fuk? What have we done to these brutes? They're so firmly convinced they're the best people in the world they believe they can get away with any sort of abuse with impunity, simply because nobody will believe such nice chaps can do anything bad. And if citizens of any EU country can be tried in Strasbourg, Canadian citizens aren't legally accountable anywhere else outside Canada. Therefore they can do whatever they please to anybody whom they pick as their target, e.g. Poles. A bunch of degenerate hypocrites and bandits. First they murdered Indians en masse, then cruelly psychopathically mistreated numerous nationalities: Irish, Chinese, East Indians, Germans, Poles, Ukrainians, Russians (Dukhobours). It's crap, not good people; it's a horrific entity built on the sea of human blood, on piles of human bones. But just like other Americans, they preach noisily about human rights and attempt to punish others for real or imagined abuses of those rights. They apparently hope that by doing so they can hide their own horrific abuses.

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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 18:49  #43

Quoting: nauczyciel
Puzzler... you have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands


- I already replied to this comment, but the forum censor has apparently removed my comment. I wonder why? Out of solidarity with one of his own? I repeat, nauczyciel: I wish types like you left Poland and returned to the murderous Polonophobic dump called 'Canada.' I remember your comment about Poland, where you depicted us as nation of envious thieves. That's the Canadian perception of Poles.

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slick77
  Nov 15, 07, 18:54  #44

Quoting: polishcanuck
He got off the plane and started yelling and throwing chairs around.


According to TVN they had him waiting for 10 hours on the airport. He did not speak English and he did not know how to ask for help. He finally tried to break the glass and get out but somebody called the police and they used teaser twice on the guy.

All in all, a very sad event.

Quoting: Puzzler
I deeply dislike Canada indeed


Puzz, as somebody rightfully pointed out. You "dislike" everybody. Don't be surprised when you find out that everybody dislikes you.

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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 18:55  #45

Quoting: Filios1
I believe this officer was just retracting his "wand" or baton by hitting it into the ground to put it back into his holster


- I myself don't believe so. It can be clearly seen the cop hit the man he was sitting on with the club.

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Filios1
  Nov 15, 07, 18:57  #46

What the fuk are you talking about you twat? They cruelly mistreated numerous nationalities, Dutch, Poles, Russians, etc?? Who the hell are you talking about then, the English and French? Have you seen the statitistics? Half of Canada is made up by these "mistreated" nationalties. So you're saying they're mistreating themsevles? Lol, you're a ******* idiot man, absoulately no basis whatsoever in what your saying. Maybe your an ugly bastard, maybe thats why "their snouts" become grumpy. There is obviously something wrong with you. I lived in Canada for 15 years before moving to Athens, and NEVER did I have an incident where someone ridiculed me for being Polish, except for when I was in elementary and we would all make fun of each others nationalties, whether they be Egyptian, French, Italian, Polish etc.


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dtaylor
  Nov 15, 07, 19:00  #47

this is something to do with technology, are you honestly saying because someone is polish they will die because of this. find out the the stats then come back
Quoting: Filios1
by these "mistreated" nationalties.


oh shut up, mistreated, aint it the english and french who colonised this counrty?


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Filios1
  Nov 15, 07, 19:02  #48

Quoting: dtaylor
oh shut up, mistreated, aint it the english and french who colonised this counrty?

I'm simply stating what puzzler said earlier, and I was being sarcastic, that is why I had it in the quotations. I'd appreciate if you read through before making comments.


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dtaylor
  Nov 15, 07, 19:06  #49

still, i would find it hard too find any mistreated nationalties in canada, if you were sarcastic, you have my apologies:D


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Filios1
  Nov 15, 07, 19:07  #50

thats ok, puzzler is a true idiot


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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 19:25  #51

Quoting: Filios1
What the fuk are you talking about you twat? They cruelly mistreated numerous nationalities, Dutch


- I've never said they mistreated the Dutch. By the way, re 'twat,'I can also call folks names, quite good. Would you like to have a $hit-slinging duel with me, primitive creep? Let's go (if you're brave enough) to the Random Chat thread, we'll see what kind of tough guy you really are.

Quoting: Filios1
Half of Canada is made up by these "mistreated" nationalties


- It doesn't change the fact many nationalities, including the Poles, were cruelly mistreated there.

Quoting: Filios1
Maybe your an ugly bastard, maybe thats why "their snouts" become grumpy. There is obviously something wrong with you


- I think in social sciences they call it: blaming the victim (it's not that I expect an elementary education ignoramus to comprehend the expression). What if I'm not ugly? What if it's not my fault, the Polonophobia in Canada? So you're saying the killing of the Polish man by a Canadian pig was the Polish man's fault...?

Quoting: Filios1
I lived in Canada for 15 years before moving to Athens, and NEVER did I have an incident where someone ridiculed me for being Polish


- Are you really Polish or just pretending to be one? And if you are indeed Polish, or rather born in Poland, or of Polish parents, and you allegedly lived in Canada 15 years and didn't notice any Polonophobia there, it means you're stupid, or coward who prefers not to notice insults in order to live in peace, or you don't consider Polonophobic insults as being insults, which would mean you're a Polonophobe yourself.

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Nov 15, 07, 19:27  #52

Quoting: Filios1
thats ok, puzzler is a true idiot


- Being called an idiot by something like you is actually a compliment to me. In your personal Cretin's Dictionary the word 'idiot' must mean the opposite of what it means in an intelligent man's dictionary.
:)

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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 19:33  #53

Quoting: dtaylor
i would find it hard too find any mistreated nationalties in canada,


- Well, your disbelief doesn't change the fact such nationalities really exist. You know, you may doubt it whether Mount Everest exists, but would it change the fact the mountain is actually there?

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Puzzler
  Nov 15, 07, 19:37  #54

Quoting: dtaylor
aint it the english and french who colonised this counrty


- I'm not talking about English or French as those who mistreated other groups, but about Canadians. Being Canadian is not the same as being English or French. Not only English and French colonised Canada; there was a very large number of, for instance, Scots.

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Sorry [Guest]
  Nov 15, 07, 19:44  #55

I would just like to express my deepest condolences and apologize for the behavior of our national police force.

I have served on UN tours with polish troops and found them to be exemplary.

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Shawn_H
  Nov 15, 07, 20:58  #56

Quoting: Puzzler
Polish people are publicly ridiculed for their nationality, names, etc., with utter impunity.
As are Chinese, Pakistani, Indian, indigineous peoples, and any other person of any "ethnic" background. I'm not aware of any mixed culture where tensions do not exist. It is not just a Polish thing.

Quoting: Puzzler
Third World immigrants learn this racism from the Canadian natives with gusto
And they are victims of it as well, maybe that is where they learn it from...

Quoting: Puzzler
How would you like to be served by a Chinese bank teller, barely speaking English
And how does that teller feel when someone asks her where she learned her "Engrish"? Just as bad as any one would feel who is the target of racist attitudes.

Quoting: Puzzler
Canadian customs brutes treat Polish visitors as enemies - the brutes must be instructed by their superiors to do so, mustn't they?
Trust me, they are equal opportunity brutes. Good old "American as Apple Pie" colleagues who travel to Canada on business also are harrassed by them.

Quoting: Puzzler
Canada seems the worst of all the American
This is like saying that Ireland is a province of Outer Mongolia.

Quoting: Puzzler
seen as fellow human beings by the vast majority of people,
And I can assume by this statement that you have lived in a vast majority of the communities in Canada to come to this conclusion? I won't debate your particular experiences in Canada, but it is not as bad as you portray, In My Opinion.

Quoting: Puzzler
Canadian government seems to wink at and encourage this perception
This is your perception, and I am sure you have had an individual experience to formulate this perception.

Quoting: Puzzler
generally a bunch of psychopaths
50% +1?

Quoting: Puzzler
I am surprised that any Polish person is able to live in Canada.
Many do, and quite comfortably. It is difficult for all immigrants whose first language is not English to adapt, but if it were that bad, do you think they would send for their extended families to join them?

Quoting: Puzzler
What the hell do we need Canada
Maple syrup, back bacon, and Hockey Players.

Quoting: Puzzler
I have actually seen in Canada also types from Arabic countries putting down Polish people. As I have mentioned above, racism is contagious.

As I have seen Poles putting down Jews, Blacks and others. One rotten apple does not ruin the barrel.

Quoting: Puzzler
national identity in this great sovereign country is American: the language, the schoolbooks, the TV, the fashion, the industry, you name it.
Language inherited from the English and the French, school books use metric, and reflect our "diverse" culture, TV - You got me there, Industry is industry, we all need to make stuff for our economies.

Quoting: Puzzler
Your military, or rather lack of it, is also American: you reduce spending on the army knowing full well that in case of any attack against Canada the Yanks will defend you all the same.
. Years of Liberals in Power eviscerated the military. The Conservatives have started to take it more seriously, and started the reinvestment in the Forces. What kind of attack do we expect? Hordes of Chinese? What can you do about a million invaders, with a population of ~32 Million?, What are we going to do about errant Russian Missiles given our geographic position?

Quoting: Puzzler
with the (awful) Canadian flag
Petty.

Quoting: Puzzler
how horrible the Americans are. Hehe, when the Yanks boycotted the murderous Castro regime, you travelled to Cuba en masse for cheap cigars, prostitutes and liquor, believing you were thus opposing the Yank imperialism.... A nice loyal bunch you are indeed. :)
Just more Liberal, not Lap-dog.

Quoting: Puzzler
In reality, you're an American state with a kind of special rights, special autonomy. Besides, you're torn apart culturally and ethnically: part of the place is (a funny jargon of) French-speaking Quebec, the other part so-called English (sic) Canada; both parts despise and hate each other wholeheartedly.
Couldn't think of anything negative to say about Polish Politics / Society?

Quoting: Puzzler
murdered with impunity by Canadian coppers
For the sake of Justice, not just Justice for Poles, but for simple Justice, I truly hope these RCMP Officers answer for what they have done.


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tome111 [Guest]
  Nov 15, 07, 20:58  #57

Yea, if you want to behave like other polish bums you better do not come to Canada. I've seen some polish hobos at the Hamburg bus station...Yuuuuuuk. Drunks, yelling and swearing. Thank good the RCMP took some action.

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Shawn_H
  Nov 15, 07, 20:59  #58

Quoting: tome111
good the RCMP took some action

Fuk U


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Filios1
  Nov 15, 07, 21:00  #59

**** YOU TOME, I SPIT ON YOUR NAZI ASS


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Polish_Goral
  Nov 15, 07, 21:21  #60

i dont care how many officers took to supdue him...tasered him after he was already laying on the floor...officer even had the time to recharge the taser and kept on doing it.....i hope dumb ass rcmp gets law suites right up their ass.....

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