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Polish Visitor to Vancouver Canada killed by RCMP TASER on the Airport


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CanadaSlave [Guest]
  Dec 2, 07, 18:54  #391

Canada's police supported politicians who wanted to murder sick children around the world. in order to enrich their budgets and corporations. Canada also raped dead children for their organs for 30 years...its not the country you think it is. Do you think they care about compassion...their maple nazis

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Edited by: 255  Dec 2, 07, 21:23  #392

Quoting: celinski
Hey everyone I was just concerned because it looked like he was having a panic attack before the security got there. After Sept 11th I could see that happening in the USA although I hate to admit it. What bothered me worse was seeing the guard with the club at the end of the tape come over keep hitting him.
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I saw that too. I just saw the tape for the first time. They murdered that poor man. He was just agitated and, like you said, having a panic attack. He wasn't hurting anybody. He wasn't threatening anybody. I hope they put those bastards in jail, particularly the one who was beating him on the ground. then I hope they sue the Taser company out of business. I also saw the tape where they tasered that kid who was asking that ******** politician Kerry questions that he didn't want to answer. The kid who said, "Please don't taze me, bro." They think that was ******* funny. The dirty bastards.

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wildrover
  Dec 3, 07, 10:55  #393

In Yorkshire in the UK the police zapped a guy with a Tazer on a bus....His crime , he was unresponsive after blacking out due to a diabetic attack.....Good job he wasn,t having a heart attack , might have shot him.....


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Zgubiony
  Dec 3, 07, 10:57  #394

Quoting: wildrover
zapped a guy with a Tazer on a bus

To wake him? I think those things should be outlawd. What ever happened to the stick or pepper spray?

....well, not for a passed out diabettic, but irate folks.



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wildrover
  Dec 3, 07, 11:01  #395

Quoting: Zgubiony
To wake him


God knows....its hard to see how someone who is asleep or blacked out can possibly be a threat to anyone.....


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arek1109
  Dec 8, 07, 11:37  #396

You can contribute your video at youtube@robertdziekanski.org and help raise further awareness of the extensive use of force in the Robert Dziekanski incident.

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LATINA
  Dec 8, 07, 11:49  #397

Excessive force by the authorities is used everywhere, not only in Canada. The United States is the biggest culprit. The authorities use excessive force on teenagers, women, specially young men, they have also killed mentally handicapped for being too slow. The biggest victims of abuse by the authorities are blacks and hispanics. It is a sad case when everyone thinks that violence is going to get peace or peaceful people.

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miranda
  Dec 13, 07, 16:04  #398

thanks everyone for contributing to this thread. I just finished media review on Dziakanski incidental death and I am done with work for this year.


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rose
  Dec 14, 07, 10:50  #399

In Winnipeg, I was told they go after the weak, elderly and poor people.


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Shawn_H
  Dec 14, 07, 11:18  #400

Quoting: rose
In Winnipeg, I was told they go after the weak, elderly and poor people.

And the aboriginals.


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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Dec 14, 07, 11:54  #401

Oh, jeez... i tried to keep my mouth shut long enough. I just can't do it any longer.

Why are some people so obsessed with this Dziekanski guy, what's a big deal about him? He was vandalizing the airport, stopping the air traffic and what not, resisting arrest, being a danger to the public, a danger to the cops and to himself. The Mounties did what they were supposed to do. Dziekanski had a hart attack because of his own actions - because of his own stupid, dangerous behavior.

There, I said it.


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Puzzler
  Dec 14, 07, 12:04  #402

Quoting: Dice
Dice


- Another Polonophobe and xenophobe from Canada?

Creeps from your 'country' murdered an innocent Polish man. Yet you, psychopaths, show no remorse, only vilify him even after his death. No punishment for his murderers; even their names are being kept secret. The victim is vilified - made to be the culprit - to protect the murderous scum. That's Canada towards Polish people. Polonophobic racists, hypocrites BS-ing about 'human rights,' and liars.

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Shawn_H
  Dec 14, 07, 12:06  #403

Quoting: Dice
He was vandalizing the airport

He was stressed.
Quoting: Dice
stopping the air traffic and what not

He had no impact on planes landing. He was so minor of a distraction to the place that he wandered around for 10 hours, completely off of the radar of our crack security teams.
Quoting: Dice
resisting arrest

The police showed up, he welcomed them, threw up his hands as a sign off surrender, was surrounded by the police (like a school yard mob), and 24 seconds later, he was unconscious. The first words out of their mouths (before they even attempted to communicate with him was "Can I taser him?"
Quoting: Dice
being a danger to the public, to the officers of law and to

He stopped his rant on occasion to attempt to communicate civilly with other passengers in the area.
Quoting: Dice
himself

In the end, he did put himself in harm's way.
Quoting: Dice
The Mounties did what they were supposed to do.

I humbly disagree. It would seem that four officers could have attempted to converse with him. When that failed, assess the situation to see if he is going to calm down (more than the 24 seconds that they did), and failing that, use their sheer numbers to subdue him. I am sure the police were experts in the field of so-called "excited delirium", and should have known that could have been one possible outcome. For goodness sakes, it is an International airport, they should have gotten an interpreter.
Quoting: Dice
had a hart attack because of his own actions

Or could it have been that while the four cops were jumping on the guy, one of them leaned a little too long on his neck causing suffocation? Oh, and what a noble attempt at resucitation these fine Mounties made. Proud to be a Canadian....


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slick77
  Dec 14, 07, 12:16  #404

Quoting: Dice
There, I said it.


You shouldn't have kept it inside for so long Dice. It's not healthy.

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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Dec 14, 07, 16:18  #405

Quoting: Dice
He was vandalizing the airport, stopping the air traffic and what not, resisting arrest, being a danger to the public, a danger to the cops and to himself. The Mounties did what they were supposed to do. Dziekanski had a hart attack because of his own actions - because of his own stupid, dangerous behavior.

I don't know what you know, but what you know is not what happened. Next time, please get the information correct and get out of the box.


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rose
  Dec 14, 07, 16:29  #406

CTV's Mike Duffy stated you can hear on the video that someone said another plane was landing with over 300 people and they have to get the guy out of the way! Where is the COMPASSION and PATIENCE? Why didn't they try to resusciate Robert Dziekanski?


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Wiseman
  Jan 4, 08, 03:17  #407

miranda wrote:
but what you know is not what happened

hi mirand...sorry i am not trying to be rude but...are you trying to be a perfect denyer?


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Seanus
  Jan 4, 08, 06:06  #408

It's AT the airport btw, on the runway maybe. And Canucks don't hate Poles, they are one of the most Pole-friendly countries out there


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PolskoCanadian
  Jan 9, 08, 19:41  #409

Polishcanuck you should get ur facts straight, i take it you didnt see the video, the guy clearely posed no danger to people.When to cops came he put his hands up and turned his back towards them, how come at that point they didnt take him down physically like you said there was 6 of them. They murdered the poor guy with out asking any questions or anylizing the situation, you dont tazer someone thats allready cuffed and onthe ground, bunch of idiot cops.

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miranda
  Feb 2, 08, 09:33  #410

robertdziekanski.org

this is a link on Dziakanski for people who are interested


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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 09:52  #411

I thought this thread was banned


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miranda
  Feb 2, 08, 10:04  #412

Seanus wrote:
I thought this thread was banned

I don't want to state the obvious;)


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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 10:12  #413

My follow up was gonna be that it obviously wasn't/hasn't been but hey!! I tried to contribute sth but the admin said that no additions could be made to the thread cuz 'noimmigration' pulled out comments that were too inflammatory. Was that a hallucination?


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miranda
  Feb 2, 08, 10:15  #414

Seanus wrote:
My follow up was gonna be that it obviously wasn't/hasn't been but hey!!

sorry, I missunderstood you then. There is another thread on Dziekanski on PF.
Seanus wrote:
I tried to contribute sth but the admin said that no additions could be made to the thread cuz 'noimmigration' pulled out comments that were too inflammatory. Was that a hallucination?

I wasn't aware of that.


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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 10:22  #415

Aha, no worries. It's a depressing thread. I c u r from Toronto (or live there), I've heard many good things about it, I'd love to visit. Only the Americans have had a laugh at u guys. Toronto had another bad episode a few years back with SARS. I was in Asia at the time and heard all about it as it was sweeping China, it was a media frenzy.


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Feb 2, 08, 10:26  #416

Seanus wrote:
Toronto had another bad episode a few years back with SARS


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Seanus wrote:
it was a media frenzy.
which hurt a lot of bussiness mind you.

Toronto is a great city, although we have our problems, snow at present.

Canada has been getting a lot of bad press lately: SARS, Dziakanski, Australian and Brtish Turist Board portrayed Canada as a place with many problems when travelling, so I am not sure what is going on.


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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 10:40  #417

U know how it is tho, people like to have a hack at things which are effective. Jealousy!! There may be substance to their claims but I'm sure they are exaggerated. The quarantine efforts were, on the whole, well conducted. The police maybe just had a moment of lunacy, we all have them. Australians and Brits have their problems too, arguably on a greater scale. I still haven't got up for my bottle-opener yet, small problem tho, hehehe


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Feb 2, 08, 11:01  #418

Seanus wrote:
Jealousy!!

could be, Canada is a vast country and not homogenous at all, so describing such big country is almost impossible. It needs to be experianced.

SARS was not out of controll, although people in other places outside Toronto had an image of everybody walking in masks in public. That tells you how media can blow things out of proportion and how people's imagination has no limits. It was a bit scary when travelling on the public transport people moved away when somebody sneezed.


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Seanus
  Feb 2, 08, 11:14  #419

That was my impression. The Japanese authorities were super-protective. I was told that I'd face a compulsory 10-day quarantine if I went to Shanghai. My company would have fired me on the spot for going.

U speak Ukrainian? Nice, any cool words?


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miranda
  Feb 2, 08, 11:28  #420

Seanus wrote:
U speak Ukrainian? Nice, any cool words?

not really, Ukrainians are a somber nation;)


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