Polish Visitor to Vancouver Canada killed by RCMP TASER on the Airport

RCMP Officers, killed all of as immigrants.

i hope they go to jail, the inmates will be so friendly...

at least a year or two in jail, thats a decent death sentence :)

Can someone translate everything that Richard was saying?

NO, **** YOU *****, get the hell out of that country if you don't like it so much. I'm an immigrant, that lived in Canada for 15 years and moved recently to Athens for school. I found it truly FREE. Go back to where you came from then. Why even come to Canada and America then, if all you do is rip it. Do you have it better in your home country?

Beside the obvious I don't quite understand why Richard was upset. I am not blaming him in the least bit. I'm just trying to understand what went on. What was it that he was saying in Polish. Was he free to leave? Why was he at the door with the chair? Was he just waiting for his mother or was customs not allowing him to leave? It is obvious that everything the cops did was wrong. To bully a man just because he doesn't speak the language. This is awful.

Latina,

Richard was stuck in the baggage carousel area for 7 hours, without anyone helping him. He was tired from travelling for over 40 hours, 8 of which were spent in the YVR airport alone. How would you enjoy it, not speaking the language, and no one spotting you, in such a small area to help. Simple courtesy could have saved this mans life, to show him where the next security checkpoint was.

As to what he was saying,
At first he mumbles, but I understand "Rospierdole ta szawke.." which means I'll FUking break this table.
Obviously he was angered at being stuck in there for so long. But he was never a threat to anyone around him.
And then again mumbling that I wasn't paying close attention to, and then when the lady comes up to ask if he speaks Russian etc.. he says, "odejc dupo" I think, which is "Go away" She kept repeating if he spoke RUSKI, that would be enough to **** of a hungry, ****ed off Pole.
And then later, he goes behind the glass wall and I can't make out what there saying. The girl was trying to communicate to him to try and phone the information desk, but it obviously wasn't working.

- As usual, ad hominem attacks, including pseudopsychoanalysis? I wonder why so many kosher psychopaths engage in such a 'rhetoric'? Go and fuk your pork mamma.
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So Richard was free to leave? Customs was not holding him or anything? He just had bad communication with his mother as to where to meet and he was just frustrated with himself for not knowing where to go next. And noone could understand him to help him where to go. Is that why he started throwing the things around because he was angry at himself and his Mom? I totally could understand his frustration the long travel and the wait. And knowing a little about Polish men and their friction with Russians (not liked being called a Russian) But he was waiting out of his own free will for 10 hours? This part of course is the small picture. There is a bigger picture which is how the police totally mishandled this situation.
Thanks Ebi for the explanation and the translation.

- Oh sancta simplicitas. If he had been free to leave, he would have done it, don't you think? It seems clear that he was kept against his will by the psychos from Canadian Customs. Which person who is free to leave the Vancouver airport would stay in that accursed place voluntarily for 10 hours? Have you ever been to Vancouver airport and dealt with its staff from hell, darling? Apparently you haven't. By the way, a few years ago a well-known writer from El Salador was exceptionally brutally beaten up by Canadian cops on Commercial Street in Vancouver, in the presence of his wife. They just ordered him to stop, then started trashing him without mercy. The fat bulls in police uniforms kicked him on the face, trampled on him lying on the pavement. They drove him up to the police station where a woman cop also kicked him repeatedly, handcuffed and lying lifelessly on the floor. (Canadian women cops are an interesting bunch; the behaviour of some of them resembles that of SS women.) As far as I know, the cops haven't been punished for the beating at all.

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Taser Outrage

I wanted to write my two cents worth regarding the death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski. I reside in Vancouver and being of Polish origin it has deeply effected me. I had to force myself to watch the video due to its disturbing content. My heart goes out to his mother who has spent many hours at the airport waiting for her son and no one was able to confirm if he arrived in our Country. I only hope that individuals involved in his death are held accountable, the man had his hands up, it almost seemed that he was relived to see the Police officers, since shorly before he called Policja. Canada is so multi cultural and I can't believe that the airport authorities could not locate anyone able to translate. The Police approach was "Shoot First and Ask Questions Later", well for this man there is not going to be any later. I hope they are able to live with that for the rest of their lives. Yes they are hired to serve and protect but they acted in haste, three man against one, I am pretty sure that they had other options available to them.

- Well, if a scum like yourself denies I'm Polish, calls me 'the scum of the earth' and 'absoulately worthless in life' (SIC!- the ortography! :)))), this only means I'm a good Pole and a valuable person. Why don't you put yourself out of your misery by drowning in the urinal, scum?
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- It actually doesn't mean that. See what a hopeless ignoramus you are?
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Puzzler, you and your paranoid comments are very disturbing indeed. That man from El Salvador you are referring to, was beaten by me, personally and my 2 senior officers. WE beat him good, just like we'll beat any other immigrants, such as yourself.

- Listen to the voice of real Canada.
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I enjoyed reading through this thread and seeing that most people are still blind to it, unlike you Puzzler. You seem to be gifted with seeing right through us. I hope tomorrow's work day will be eventful :)

I would hope the actions of a few Canadians (not sure if they are (THE 4 rcmp officers IN THE VIDEO) dont reflect upon the rest of us Canucks. Unfortunately when one is given power,(that of the rcmp) psychologically it impacts their mental ability to have a professional prospective on situation(s) (goes to their head) These individuals ("members") acted in an unprofessional manner. As an individual i'm all for supporting the people who uphold the law etc etc but when the power that is given by the Gov't of Canada goes to THEIR heads and impacts their professional ability to do their job this concerns me. Its kind of Ironic (see the above) I hope something positive comes out of this extremly negative incident.

- You can kiss my frances with your dumb and kitschy pseudoirony, pal.

- It won't come out so for local Poles, unless it's publicly acknowledged that there is racism against Poles in Canada.

- I'm not an immigrant, creep. And I'd rather die than emigrate or even pay a short visit to where you dwell.

As for you, watch out, you may want to be an immigrant one day.

I agree that the individuals involved in the incident are directly responsible. But the fact that they represent the nation cannot be conveniently ignored.

The police force, the army and the mainline politicians represent and reflect the ideaology, the image and the philosophy of the nation. So while I understand why Canadians or those who love Canada are vehemently trying to defend themselves from Puzzler's wrath, I must inject the painful fact that Canada, as a nation, cannot distance or insulate itself from this heinous and inhumane act committed by their government officials.


Please note that according to Political Science (yes, politics is a science unfortunately), crimes committed by hoodlums, gangsters and the mafia in a particular country, cannot be attributed as a characteristic of the country. Because if that's the case then South Africa - where police statistics say a woman is raped every 26 seconds, giving it one of the world's highest rates of rape - is a country of rapists. Now that's not true and it would be very immature to conclude thus.

But crimes or inexcusable acts of violence perpetrated by the officials (police, army, politicians) who represent the country, are directly attributed to the country's system of beliefs and its political outlook and personality.

These guilty officials have brought a nation to its knees. My heartfelt sympathies for the grieving family.

This incident is a very sad one for Canada and for the family who lost this man. There are plenty of accusations, but nobody really knows what had happened. It is to be determined.
I personally can not believe that in such a big airport, nobody spoke polish or the airport employees made no effort to find someone who does.
I hope they get a good, international lawyer.

I agree. It's very clear that police officers aren't getting adequate training when it comes to quickly surveying a situation and making an appropriate decision. What were they thinking?? Clearly the man was distressed, tired and disoriented from the long flight and being lost in the airport. To him, this land was strange and scary and he was alone. If I was lost in an airport of a strange country I think I would get upset as well. Those RCMP officers should have some serious charges laid against them. Police get away with way too much. We should hold our officers to higher standards than this.
I can't even begin to express how appalling this tragedy is. Recently becoming a Canadian citizen, I must say I am quite ashamed of this country right now. We are supposed to HELPING those in distress, not killing them. Also being Polish, this tragedy strikes me deep. My heart goes out to Robert's mother.

and exactly what do you mean by "crazy"? Without assessing this man's mental health history, to much such claims is ignorant and presumptuous. Clearly, the man was in distress...and it was probably from a combination of things: long flight, being lost, not knowing the language, not getting help etc etc...

everyone needs to be sensitive to this man's circumstances! Being an immigrant myself.. i know first hand coming into a strange country is very difficult!! For his distress to be mistaken for "craziness" makes my stomach churn. People are lacking heart.

I'm sure he did not just get on the plain and... end up in Canada.... Somebody had to invite him, wait for him...plan to pick him up... I saw some of the news yesterday on CNN and..nothing today, so far. The paper stories are just ...well, stories.
My heart goes out to his family. It it tragic. Luckily, caught on tape and someone will get punished, really good.

It will not bring this man's life back, but maybe, just maybe - spare another one.

I took a sociology course on deviant behaviour a few years ago and one of the units was on police brutality. Believe it or not, it's actually worse in the states. Police officers do the craziest **** and no one bats an eyelash. Over there, they can basically pull their guns out whenever they feel like it. My brother who currently goes to school down there (and who's polish although I dont think thats relevant here) had a gun pulled on him by a cop simply for trying to speak out when he witnessed someone he knew being targeted by the cops (they had the wrong guy). In Canada, apparently the cops are supposed to write a full report everyone time they pull out their weapon. I don't think that Polish people are being discriminated or targeted in any way by Canadians. I do agree that Canadians are more weary of people "unlike them" and I think the recent bout of terrorist attacks plays a prominent role in substantiating this. Being Polish, I have never experienced any overt discrimination. I live in a very multicultural part of Canada and go to school where I feel like being white I am the minority.

I just think these cops needs to pull their heads out of their asses, get some better training and learn to critically and quickly analyze a situation before they act.

It could be worse guys....thank god I dont live in the states!

lol you seem to be expressing delusions of persecution puzzler.

Canadians don't have it out for Polish people. This is just an incident where the man happened to be Polish. I'm pretty sure that if a man of any other origin...germany, china, africa, whatever, showed the exact same behaviour, they would have done exactly the same thing!

I mean..where would Canada be right now without our pierogi and cabbage rolls?

Seriously though... the cops were being stupid and werent thinking. They may have been inexperienced..who knows... ! Cops have a tendency to have dominating, orthodox, and authoritarian dispositions.

Oh, come on now Malogosia. I live in the states for well over 27 years. I've never came across a cop I did not like... or had not a good rapport with, even when stopped for a ticket or some other driving violations... hehehehe, I had some of them in the younger years. They have a job to do, but i was always impressed with their composed, proper behavior to an offender. Yes, they have to put their life on the line when dealing with with drug dealers and nasty people, they have to do what they have to do to protect themselves too. Being nice does not always cut it. They are not in the babysitting business. We don't want to live in a world where anything goes, do we?

Pats ler
Spoken like a true sociopath. You keep digging yourself in deeper.

After watching the video fully I am even more upset with what happened if that is possible. A spokesperson for the RCMP stated shortly after the incident that 3 officers were involved and the deceased resisted when taken to the ground. Well we all know now that was just a bunch of BS. To imagine four police officers think it is okay to taser this man rather than just try to restrain him first is beyond belief. Obviously the lack of proper training shows up clearly and it cost a innocent person his life. I persoanlly have had three direct relatives of mine who were members of the RCMP and must say I can't imagine any of them reacting the way these 4 did. They were all professional and of course now being retired "Old School". It is a sad day and to think everything will be done by the RCMP now to justify the actions of the 4 officers. Well I am one person who is not going to let this die, none of us should as who knows maybe you or I will be the next person to suffer from poor judgement of the RCMP. In my many trips to Poland I was always so proud to wear the Canadian flag, no longer will I wear it during my visits. I know my friends in Poland are following this event and watching what is going to happen next. I am going to attend the funeral in Kamloops Saturday, to show support for the family and also to be seen as one of many who are fed-up with a imcompetence of the RCMP. I also think the appointment of a "outsider" as the new commissioner of the RCMP shows the "ROT" that has permiated the force all the way to the Top. It really is time BC went back to having a provincial police force and it would be best not to hire ANY current RCMP member to that force. I know there are many good "mounties" young and old that are troubled by what has happend not only by this event but many others including the shooting death of a prisoner in Houston. To them I say maybe its time to get out while the getting is good. I think there are too many incompetent members to save the "force". In closing I think the best way to describe the RCMP is a bunch of "trigger happy" incompetent people, who up untill this incident spent too much time at Tim Hortons on 25th in Vernon.

yeah that's true....BUT how damn masculine do you have to be to zap-zap a guy with 50,000 Volts!? I bet you this/these police officer(s) are real "tough guys" :)

You know animals are treated in a less harmful and safer manners when being subdued for transport, medical treatment, etc.