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lesser
  Feb 5, 08, 07:33  #91


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szkotja2007
  Feb 5, 08, 12:26  #92

lesser wrote:
OK, we are balancing around the same arguments from a while, there is no sense to continue.

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.
I have read a bit more through the course of this thread and learned a bit more too.
Deise 07 wrote:
No Pasaran! ;)


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southern
  Feb 5, 08, 12:38  #93

What is the difference of Franco and let's say Pinoset?Or Pinoset is a democratic dictator?

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isthatu
  Feb 5, 08, 13:42  #94

None,Death to Fascists.

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lesser
  Feb 5, 08, 16:56  #95

southern wrote:
What is the difference of Franco and let's say Pinoset?Or Pinoset is a democratic dictator?


From what I know:

Franco never put himself to be subject of voting, he organized some referendums about constitution for example. Pinochet searched for approval of the people, he was a subject of three referendums. He won the first two, lost the last one and allowed to organize free elections reserving for himself the chief of the army post and later became a lifetime Senator. So one cannot say that Pinochet was an enemy of democracy in general. Though neither he was a democrat "no matter what".

Like Franco he did not have a clue about economy, however searching for alternative to communism handed over this sector to liberal Chilean economists educated in Chicago, students of Milton Friedman. I think that their reforms were even better, we in Poland are 100 years behind Chile as far pension system is concentrated. Even socialists which with time handed the power don't dare to reverse these reforms.

Pinochet needed to deal with Chilean clergy which was widely under influence of theology of liberation (condemned by Vatican). Even most of Chilean bishops. He considered them to be simply communists.

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Filios1
  Feb 5, 08, 17:07  #96

Frankly, these veterans from this war shouldn't even be acknowledged by the Polish parliament, if there even are any living today.

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Piorun
  Feb 5, 08, 17:39  #97

There are still 25 veterans of Spanish civil war living In Poland. About a year ago there was a proposal by PiS to take away their privileges and reduce their pensions to minimum. At the same time Spanish parliament has passed a resolution to protect those veterans by giving them a legal help and advice to keep their status as veterans. I never fallowed up on the story so I have no idea on whatever happened.

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Filios1
  Feb 5, 08, 17:58  #98

Piorun wrote:
There are still 25 veterans of Spanish civil war living In Poland. About a year ago there was a proposal by PiS to take away their privileges and reduce their pensions to minimum.


Ahh, good ol' PiS. That is what it was good for, bringing justice to all the former communist rats.

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southern
  Feb 5, 08, 18:06  #99

I prefer the dead nazi rats.

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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Feb 6, 08, 04:58  #100

Piorun wrote:
There are still 25 veterans of Spanish civil war living In Poland. About a year ago there was a proposal by PiS to take away their privileges and reduce their pensions to minimum. At the same time Spanish parliament has passed a resolution to protect those veterans by giving them a legal help and advice to keep their status as veterans. I never fallowed up on the story so I have no idea on whatever happened.


This is fake story. In fact PiS proposed reduce to minimum pensions of communist oppressors. It turned out that some of them fought in Spanish civil war and western media somehow span this story in this direction. Whether it was part of their anti-PiS campaign, expression of sympathy to ideological friends or just paranoia of ignorants, judge yourself...

I personally don't really believe that those PiS people that pushed this idea truly believe that their original plan could be ever realized. This is just populism.

southern wrote:
I prefer the dead nazi rats.


99% of Nazi rats were punished, 99% of commie rats were not punished. Think about it, the latter group is untouchable. Those are two radical parts of the same camp, thus they hate each other much more than they hate their common capitalist enemies.

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Crow
  Feb 6, 08, 19:10  #101

in the Spanish Civil War

here again, as many times before and after- Poles (same as Serbs and other Slavs) were cannon fodders

Slavs should learn not to waste their strength. Only Slavdom deserve our lives. Only our children! False west not for sure

Surrender your life to Slavia, soul to Christ and honor to nobody!

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Deise 07
Edited by: Deise 07  Feb 7, 08, 08:20  #102

Crow wrote:
here again, as many times before and after- Poles (same as Serbs and other Slavs) were cannon fodders


I presume you do realise that Slavs are not unique in that regard?

By the way - thanks Lesser for the links

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espana
  Feb 9, 08, 14:21  #103

francisco franco was more like pilsudski than hiltler musolini stalin or castro

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Crow
  Feb 9, 08, 17:32  #104

Deise 07 wrote:
I presume you do realise that Slavs are not unique in that regard?

with all due respect on others but, i`m focused on my Slavic kind. I have only one life, one heart, one soul

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Filios1
  Feb 9, 08, 17:38  #105

Crow wrote:
I have only one life, one heart, one soul


Truth! Bracie. We only have one life.

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 9, 08, 17:46  #106

Crow wrote:
one life, one heart, one soul

ok mr sarajevo
One love
One life
When it's one need
In the night
One love
We get to share it
Leaves you baby if you
Don't care for it

that for you mr slavic , .......bla bla bla

Is there a time for keeping a distance
A time to turn your eyes away
Is there a time for keeping your head down
For getting on with your day

Is there a time for kohl and lipstick
A time for cutting hair
Is there a time for high street shopping
To find the right dress to wear

Here she comes
Heads turn around
Here she comes
To take her crown

Is there a time to walk for cover
A time for kiss and tell
Is there a time for different colors
Different names you find it hard to spell

Is there a time for first communion
A time for east 17
Is there a time to turn the mecca
Is there a time to be a beauty queen

Here she comes
Beauty plays the crown
Here she comes
Surreal in her crown

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 9, 08, 17:56  #107

espana wrote:
ok mr sarajevo

me? Sarajevo? i`m not from Sarajevo

You should ask Serbs of Sarajevo how they were treated from mujaheedines in Sarajevo. Arabic mujaheedines like to torture White Christian woman, girls, boys and man, you know

espana wrote:
that for you mr slavic , .......bla bla bla

tell me, tell me... Are you on drugs this evening? Or maybe too much BBC, CNN, AL JAZEERA, ITN and DEUTSCHE WELLE sources

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Filios1
  Feb 9, 08, 17:58  #108

Crow wrote:
Arabic mujaheedines like to torture White Christian woman, girls, boys and man, you know


Yes, this is truth you speak of. Disgusting. Those barbarians should have been stopped, unfortunately it came with a high price.

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 9, 08, 18:05  #109

Crow wrote:
Are you on drugs this evening?

No,this thread is for the polish voluntteers in the civil war , francisco franco and spain not for your slavic bull ****
i dont give a **** about slavic, yugoslavia, Tito,milosevic, muslim , bbc etc

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southern
  Feb 9, 08, 18:07  #110

Crow wrote:
Arabic mujaheedines like to torture White Christian woman, girls, boys and man, you know


I recently saw a video of the beheading of a Serb by a mujahedin in Bosnia.

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 9, 08, 18:18  #111

Filios1 wrote:
Those barbarians should have been stopped, unfortunately it came with a high price.

yes, that`s why general Mladiæ likes songs `Stand Up to Your devil`, `Green Roses` and `SINDIDUN` by Orthodox Celts



from Stand Up to Your Devil
`Stand Up to Your Devil or he would look upon you`

from Green Roses
`At the crack of the dawn thunder and lightning crossed the way
The shadow of knight waited to see the bright light of the day
Nobody saw his bitter tears through the dark veil of rain
The river of blood under his feet run wild again and again`

from Sindidun
`With heavy cross upon my neck I ran from hands of hangman's will
Yes I've killed I must admit, bombs and guns my friends have been
That's the bid I have to pay, that's my heavy portion of sin`

http://www.lyricsmagnet.com/lyrics/ORTHODOX+CELTS.html

southern wrote:

Crow wrote:
Arabic mujaheedines like to torture White Christian woman, girls, boys and man, you know


I recently saw a video of the beheading of a Serb by a mujahedin in Bosnia.

you mean this...

Mujahedeen member of Bosnian Muslim Army holds decapitated head of Blagoja Blagojevic as a trophy for the camera in Crni Vrh. Bosnian Muslim Army systematically executed, tortured, and beheaded Bosnian Serbs

Geneva Convention treatment of POWs and enemy combatants violations. Muslim mujahedeen soldier in Bosnian Muslim army stands on the decapitated heads of Bosnian Serb soldeirs Blagoje Blagojevic, Brana Duric, and Nenad Petkovic in Crni Vrh near Teslic.

The charred remains of Milomir Prodanovic, killed in Muslim attack on Podravanje.

Dobrina Prodanovic holds the skull of her 17 year old son, Zivan, killed with 20 others in Ratkovici on June 21, 1992 by Muslim forces and the village was burned.

Geneva Convention violation on the treatment of Bosnian Serbs. Muslims roasted and skewered him on a spear and his body was exhibited in front of a hotel.

espana wrote:

Crow wrote:
Are you on drugs this evening?

No,this thread is for the polish voluntteers in the civil war , francisco franco and spain not for your slavic bull ****
i dont give a **** about slavic, yugoslavia, Tito,milosevic, muslim , bbc etc

not only over Slavic connections but also, unfortunately via NATO Poles are deeply involved in events in former Yugoslavia. They need to know facts

After all, war is war (as, if), Spanish Civil War or Civil War in former Yugoslavia. You wanted war story, you got it

BDW, Spanish soldiers are also involved in events via NATO. Look with how `nice` mujaheedine scum NATO was/is in alliance

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 9, 08, 18:34  #112

**** off crow i dont want to see this things idiot , and why you dont post this in your slavic bull **** threads .
one more time **** off idiot
wanker

this is not a slavic muslim yugoslavia thread , can you post this **** in your slavic bull **** thread

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 9, 08, 18:40  #113

espana wrote:
**** off crow i dont want to see this things idiot , and why you dont post this in your slavic bull **** threads .
one more time **** off idiot
wanker

this is not a slavic muslim yugoslavia thread , can you post this **** in your slavic bull **** thread

you are even more primitive then your `king`

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espana
  Feb 9, 08, 18:46  #114

Crow wrote:
you are even more primitive then your `king`

yes i m
i have a few shirt like this ready for u

1998efsy.jpg
1998efsy.jpg

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southern
Edited by: southern  Feb 9, 08, 18:47  #115

Cool,Crow,leave this thread.There is no reason to upset the Spanish.They have nothing to do with Kossovo.Open a new thread and show only the photos you just showed.(and more).

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 9, 08, 18:47  #116

espana wrote:
1998efsy.jpg

aaaa, for me? How nice of you. Thanks

Do you have pants, too?

southern wrote:
Cool,Crow,leave this thread.There is no reason to upset the Spanish.They have nothing to do with Kossovo.Open a new threat and show only the photos you just showed.

all right. Let Admin move that in - What are Polish Serbian relations thread. I won`t compalint

here:
http://www.polishforums.com/polish_serbian_relations_like-34_13254_5.h tml

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 9, 08, 19:06  #117

Crow wrote:
primitive

pimitive?,,,,,,,i had a white muslim refugee from bosnia living in my home in your silly war, i m catholic and i didnt care.
yes one live but what we have to do? .......love not hate
what you was doing at this time ?

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 9, 08, 19:21  #118

espana wrote:
in your silly war

pardon

NATO and EU (particularly Germany) started Civil War in former Yugoslavia. Its not even for discussion, its a so big fact

espana wrote:
what you was doing at this time ?

can`t sleep, listen music, surf

friend of mine has been mobilized in army. Arabic Mujaheedines and wehabies appeared in Southern Serbian regions, guerrilla warfare (attack and then retreats on Kosovo where NATO protects them)

Also, Albanian mujas are very active these days, on Kosovo-Metohija and in Moravska (South of Serbia, around Kosovo-Metohija).

all smell on another war. just this time, much bigger then in Bosnia, Krajina

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Filios1
  Feb 9, 08, 19:24  #119

Crow wrote:
friend of mine has been mobilized in army. Arabic Mujaheedines and wehabies appeared in Southern Serbian regions, guerrilla warfare


Unfortunate, my friend. Hopefully God can watch over him and keep him safe from those savages.

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 9, 08, 19:33  #120

well good luck with Tomislav Nikolic, Boris Tadic etc

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