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Why do Polish women always have to be house-maids or cleaning ladies?


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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 15:52  #1

why do Polish women always have to be house-maids or cleaning ladies?why? From Chicago to New York to London, England we see most of the cleaning ladies being polish.

even girls with university degrees are cleaning homes and apartments. it is sad as they are wasting their lives. yet i rarely see Russian girls as cleaning ladies why? are they more ambitious?

then there are the polish men abroad. 90% of them work construction jobs which often pay good however why can't we see more Poles in banking, engineering or computer science fields?

Polak ciagle jest robolem

it is no wonder the Jews in Poland used to say "nasze kamienice , wasze ulice"

 
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Grzegorz_
  Apr 10, 07, 16:27  #2

Quoting: witek
why do Polish women always have to be house-maids or cleaning ladies?


I don't know, maybe they just like cleaning

 
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Frank
  Apr 10, 07, 16:37  #3

Greg ...you tart....lol

Partly cos, their ablities to speak in English are poor, no need to talk to a floor, secondly, its easy to get into, its pays 20-25zls an hour...as opposed to 5zl back home......so why not?

Until their levels of English improve and their qualifications are given EU/Uk equivalancies this will continue, plus they are largely migrant workers...not staying for ever...so don't want that responsiblity..................perhaps...

Witek...plz write in English....

Polak ciagle jest robolem

it is no wonder the Jews in Poland used to say "nasze kamienice , wasze ulice"

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 16:43  #4

sorry franek

nasze kamienice, wasze ulice means The Jews own the buildings, whereas the Poles own the streets.

Polak ciagle jest robolem means that the Polish person is always the labourer

 
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Frank
  Apr 10, 07, 16:53  #5

Was this a racist slur, denigrating to the Jews living in your country for several hundred years......Witek.......?

Polish people I suppose need to be a little bit more pushy........and raise their English/German/French speaking abilities...the world/EU is their oyster...as it is for the Irish.

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 17:04  #6

franek,

what racist slur?

this was a Jewish saying "nasze kamienice , wasze ulice"

i meant to emphasize that "Poles" prefered to be laboureres both in Poland and abroad. While other ethnic groups in Poland such as the Jews, Germans and Russians owned the capital, factories and production.

i am interested why us Poles cannot break away from the "labourer" mind set.

 
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Patrycja19
  Apr 10, 07, 17:35  #7

Quoting: witek
even girls with university degrees are cleaning homes and apartments.


some of these girls are only doing these smaller jobs to pay for school if needed.

and I see all kinds of women doing cleaning jobs. not polish. maybe in other countries
but not in my workplace. i think theres more Polish with degrees at my work doing
very well !

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Apr 10, 07, 17:40  #8

I have broken away from that mindset, I have never had that mindset
Frank, I am very pushy and I speak the laguage

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 17:41  #9

Quoting: witek
i am interested why us Poles cannot break away from the "labourer" mind set.



We're just good at it. I'd rather be good at making the product than selling it

 
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miranda
  Apr 10, 07, 17:44  #10

speak for yourself Arturo

 
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Patrycja19
  Apr 10, 07, 17:45  #11

Quoting: witek
why us Poles cannot break away from the "labourer" mind set.


Witek,

this was something that happened like years and years ago, but now to be a laborer
is not a bad job and is also as good paying as a job which requires a college degree.

and now some labor jobs also require schooling, and your benefits are awsome.
if you were to compare, depending on some jobs. A laborer in say 1920 vs 2007
there is technology. and let me tell you knowing some of these laborers who work
at say one of the big 3 automakers, some of these guys have it made. machines
do the work, they watch the machines. what/who wouldnt want to work and get
paid top dollar to sit and watch a machine, keep it running ? But you have to like
what your doing too, even if the job is easy, some dont fit the work force as a team.

IMHO

and in a laborer job, theres options to work overtime, if you become salaried
you work long hours without that pay. if your going to work this time, it should
be paid, so having a title sometimes doesnt benefit in the long run.

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 17:46  #12

Quoting: Patrycja19
this was something that happened like years and years ago, but now to be a laborer
is not a bad job and is also as good paying as a job which requires a college degree.



Union job. The Union has the power now

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 17:48  #13

Patrycja said

" let me tell you knowing some of these laborers who work
at say one of the big 3 automakers"

sorry to inform you but there have been major layoffs in both Canada and the USA IN THE Auto manufacturing sector

 
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miranda
  Apr 10, 07, 18:06  #14

Witek,
I promise you - I will never be a cleaning lady - actually I hate cleaning

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 18:07  #15

good Miranda i am proud of you

polish lady with ambition

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 18:08  #16

Quoting: miranda
I will never be a cleaning lady



HAHAHA......you'll wear the outfit



It won't be used for cleaning though.......

 
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miranda
  Apr 10, 07, 18:10  #17

Witek,
actually I am Ukrainian, but was born in Polandm maybe that's why I am more ambitious

Artur,
I prefer the man to clean, somhow they seem to be better at it, nothning sexist, just facts

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 18:12  #18

Quoting: miranda
Artur,
I prefer the man to clean, somhow they seem to be better at it, nothning sexist, just facts



So I will have to spawn the "Sexy Maid" outfit? Sounds like a plan......when and where?

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 18:26  #19

a man cleaning

i have to see it to believe it

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 18:27  #20

Quoting: witek
i have to see it to believe it



You haven't cleaned????? Ever? In your entire life?

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 18:32  #21

yes i have cleaned

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Apr 10, 07, 18:37  #22

Witek,
you don't trust my abilities to persuade people?

see, Artur is willing to grab the mop

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 18:38  #23

Quoting: miranda
you don't trust my abilities to persuade people?



Hey man, she's got me wearing the outfit

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Apr 10, 07, 18:39  #24

of your choice Artur, doesn't look like you need cleaning tips

 
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ArturSzastak
  Apr 10, 07, 18:42  #25

Quoting: miranda
cooks and animal haters!!!



Hey now....my cat was hunting to survive

 
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bookratt [Guest]
  Apr 10, 07, 19:08  #26

Yes, they got hit bad and there are more jobs to be lost, any day now. You can't have a $1.6 billion loss last year, then in the first quarter of this year, pay out $23 million to a new CEO, who has been there only 4 months, and hope to make a profit.

That's what just happened at GM in Detroit.

money.cnn.com/2007/03/23/news/companies/bc.gm.bonuses.reut/index.htm?p ostversion=2007032306

In the same period (2006), Toyota increased profits by $3.5 Billion.

Daimler Benz is selling their stake in Chrysler (probably to a French or Japanese owned company, though a Korean firm is a possibility also).

Unions in the US (except in state-run enterprises and in education) are on their way out, as are the "big three" auto makers, GM, FORD and Chrysler, like it or not.

money.cnn.com/2007/02/28/news/card_check/index.htm

I am an American living between Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Youngstown, Ohio, in the "rust belt". A very pro-union area.

But if we don't get our heads out of our butts and fix things, instead of complaining about it, we will only see more layoffs and relocations to other places and countries, where labor and building and maintenance costs are less.

 
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kkustron [Guest]
  Apr 10, 07, 19:18  #27

Not all Polish women are cleaning ladies.

I am an engineer, employed, and just need to finish my thesis to complete the requirements for my doctorate.

My cleaning lady is not Polish.

 
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witek
  Apr 10, 07, 19:19  #28

good for you kkustrom

 
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Patrycja19
  Apr 10, 07, 23:40  #29

Quoting: witek
sorry to inform you but there have been major layoffs in both Canada and the USA IN THE Auto manufacturing sector


yeah, and then they hire again..my brother works labor, makes alot of money
no layoffs. Im not saying it isnt impossible, but degree or not degree, layoffs
happen, hillary save us!!!!

 
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Patrycja19
  Apr 10, 07, 23:42  #30

Quoting: bookratt
But if we don't get our heads out of our butts and fix things,


get george out of office. i dont know about you, but I noticed the downhill stretch
since his inaugeration... hes not for the people of America. not in my belief.

 
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