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Apr 11, 07, 03:58 #35
"why do Polish women always have to be house-maids or cleaning ladies?why? From Chicago to New York to London, England we see most of the cleaning ladies being polish.
even girls with university degrees are cleaning homes and apartments. it is sad as they are wasting their lives. yet i rarely see Russian girls as cleaning ladies why? are they more ambitious?
then there are the polish men abroad. 90% of them work construction jobs which often pay good however why can't we see more Poles in banking, engineering or computer science fields? "
1) New immigrant groups often head into cleaning work for the following reasons.
a) They don't need the language.
b) Often the agencies they work for are run by people of their own ethnic group.
c) Part-time work, suits students and mothers. Traditionally specifically in domestic cleaning (flats, houses) as opposed to commercial cleaning (offices, shops etc).
Women have held these positions. Commercial cleaning has as many men as women these days.
d) The skills need to do this job are skills which in more traditional countries have been passed at an early age from mother to daughter.
I could disappear up my own ass in pschobabble about tidy, home tidy mind , etc but I won't.
In central London, a huge amount of the commercial contracts are run and staffed by Colombians. Don't ask, why I don't know. Thats just the way it is.
In the UK and London specifically Russians are of the upper escheleons of society.
Now the Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Belarus, ex-soviet satelite states tend to do much the same work as the Polish.
Again the comment about women who have degrees wasting their lives, well its no where near as simple as that and I think the Polish in the UK are ambitious, it takes balls just to leave your homeland, you've got to want something more to do so.
There are a huge amount of people in the UK who have University degrees, from well recognized Universities, not to mention the plethora of old polytechnics, who cannot find work in banking, engineering, administration, teaching, so called proffesions.
How much more challenging for non-natives to find these jobs, they have to be twice as good.
My french cousin, came to the UK after Grandes Ecole to study for her MBA in the Uk, and then entered publishing and PR. She is a smart cookie, with years of study, but she needed this to compete with the natives.
Slowly as the Polish settle into a more developed relationship with the UK work place, and the language barrier more comprehensively dealt with more and more Poles will assume more proffesional roles.
Already the flight of the Polish doctors and nurses is well documented phenomena.
The legal system, thats self explanatory, but no doubt as European law comes to the fore, there will be more Polish legal begals in the UK and Europe.
The irony will be, that as Poland develops, the proffesional classes in poland will be paid more by the international companies operating their, so the incentive to move for those in this bracket will decrease.
However, for the youth market and the lower less educated, less connected classes, then Europe provides a very plausible employer within the lower skilled markets.
Also many of the Polish are here for temporary work.
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