Why do Polish women always have to be house-maids or cleaning ladies?

hey who am i to stop you from cleaning anyway im off from work. take care everyone cheers

Miranda !!! You are just as bad as I am. Pitty I had to hurt your national pride to make you produce such a eloquent answer to Witek's nerrowminded question - I hope he read it. As for me - my english is realy bad indeed, I complated my education in 1995 since than I got merrid and my husbands affairs takes us to other language zones, so english isn't the most important for me any more.

Based on what I pay my non-Polish cleaning lady and assuming an average of 30 hours per week of cleaning, (another 10 hours for traveling between clients) her gross salary is over $65K USD. That is more than the starting salary for most four year college engineering graduates.

Luka tell me why is my question narrow minded?

i am just curious why Poles are always labourers such as cleaners, masonry or construction workers. the labour jobs pay good $$$? maybe. we Poles don't know English that well? maybe.

look at the Jews. have you seen a Jewish plumber or carpenter? why not?
Jews are over -represented in fields like medicine, banking and law. why?

To generalize, all people have the same basic “needs”: food, shelter, and clothing for survival. . The difference or gap comes to the level aspect of “wants”. The “wants” drive the career choices, education, salary, and ultimate benefits. The level of the “wants” come from life experiences and exposure of opportunities.

I find most Polish people are humble and find it perfectly acceptable and content to get by with the basics of needs. They don't find it necessary to flaunt their wealth. They would rather keep their money in the bank or invest it safely.

Jews are over -represented in fields like medicine, banking and law. why?

Ho ho man surfing into anti-semitic land.

Giles, yet again, banking on your side of the fence! In basic (and I mean this in its most of basic forms! kkustron, You are pointing out the fact that the Jewish faith has an ability to provide the education and support network that is needed to give a proper educational system?

Back to the origional thread.... It's easy (bardzo, bardzo). Go for the available jobs. A traditional available job for a man is labour. The same is true for a woman. It has always been the case of a 'trade skill' for a man. E.g. Plumber, Electrician, brick layer etc... and the same for the woman. These skills need little qualifications. I do not want to sound sexist. I personally find that women are much more important in society than men, after all, who raise the next generation of both female's and male's?

Ashkenazi Jews or Jews of central and eastern Europe have made disproportionately large contributions to intellectual pursuits. Though they are about a quarter of a percent of the world's population, they comprise 28 percent of Nobel Prize winners in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, and Economics, and have accounted for more than half of world chess champions. In the United States, Ashkenazi Jews represent less than 2 percent of the population, but have won 40 percent of the Nobel Prizes in science awarded to U.S. citizens, and 25 percent of all Turing Awards. A significant decline in the number of Nobel Prizes awarded to Europeans and a corresponding increase in the number of prizes awarded to U.S. citizens occurred while Nazi persecution of Jews drove them from Europe during the 1930s and drastically reduced their numbers in Europe in the 1940

Tell me, how many polish women of second, third, ect generation do you know that actually do work as cleaners in the US?

Not many around here (NY-NJ). These women are typically in the 40+ age group that do the cleaning; however, we do have a lot of PL people that own mason/construction/plumbing businesses in the area.

Matyjasz,

how many Polish lawyers, bankers and surgeons do you know?

i myself know some proffesionals ( 1st generation) but they are the minority

We do have a large amt. of Pl nurses and doctors I"ve forgot to mention They are some of the best and most respected for their knowledge.

Many, but I do live in Poland though. Personally I don't believe that there are 2 and + generation poles in the US that work as cleaners.

usually the most ambitious people are the 1st generation they work 70-80 hour weeks and invest their $$$ in the stock market and real-estate and buy their homes for cash.

the 2nd and 3rd generation? some are hard working but most have a Canadian or American mentality and are lazy

That's pretty good for cleaners if you ask me.

cleaners that work for themselves owners of bigger cleaning companies

Watch it. I work my ass off. Not all of us are fat and lazy..just most

FISZ maybe you are hardworking American

but you don't know how to "kombinowac" like us Poles

witek,
I don't know where you get his info, but you are talking about my cousins and friends and you are totally off.

PS. Sorry, you are not talking about them, but you are off

on this forum

Miranda,

usually the 2nd and 3rd generation are much lazier they don't have the same drive to suceed. the 1st generation are more driven, more ambitous

you have a point there, however I wouldn't use a word "lazy" - they are just more comfortable and don't have to prove anything, also they don't have to fight for survival, as their parents did. I am much more "ambitious" in comparison to my born in Canada cousins and sometimes it causes missunderstadings and conflicts. I am also more resilient due to hardship, although I don't know if that's good sometimes.

sometimes 1st generation immigrants gets lazy also

such as yourself?





working on my PHD in laziness as we speak

sometimes we get frustrated

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no more cleaning for you tonight Witek?

I don't remember giving you time off

i thought you might come over and give me a hand

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I would, but I promised you that I would NEVER become a cleaning lady. Got to keep my word, sorry.

i will let you dress for the role if you like

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sorry, first you complain about ladies not being ambitious enough, then you change your mind.
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