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dianne [Guest]
  Nov 26, 07, 01:57  #121

hello i just joined this group and found it interesting to say the least!!!!!!!!!!! but, i do want to say that i am a polish woman born and raised in the u.s. ,but, i have a story it is to long to go into right now so i will keep it short;and yes i am a polish woman about to marry a muslim man,i am also muslim...... so i would just like to see what the comment are on that, although i think all of it is complete nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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dianne [Guest]
  Nov 27, 07, 22:32  #122

i am a new muslim but from what i know it is against islam for muslim women to marry a non muslim man, while it is accepted for a muslim man to marry a non muslim woman,there is very good reasons for this and it all makes sense,it has to do with the children they raise an the nonmuslim womans family it is all explained in the quron very carefully and it is not in anyway meant to oppress a woman we all wan to follow Allah' and his teachings for Allah not man, it is what is what i want,i know this, but as i say i am still in the baby stages of a muslim, so, please do not send arguments to me i just know that if it were not for God, (Allah) i would be so misguided in life,i am just so happy that i have a chioce that is free that Allah has allowed me



hi thankyou for your words i so agree with you why does everyone jus focus on the 1% percent i believe this is because most of the human nature is to do so, and because of fear, and ignorance,i now that Islam is the one true religion,and Mohammand (pbuh) is the last messanger,of Allah, i jus wish an most importantly pray that nonmuslims of this world will see clearly one day that we muslims are not all terroists,we are a peaceful, people,i just ask that the ones who talk trash an negatively agaisnt muslims would jus look into where they are from there is nonmuslim terroist everywher,all over the world in fact,jus open the eye's an see it for what it really is,not just looking at Isalm...... in fact the most murders an rapes are commited in the U.S. espcially agaisnt children, then women,and yet muslims are given a bad name,yes i remeber 9-11 and will always remember but, also remember oklahoma city bombing two people that were convicted for being solely responsible for that were not even close to being muslims jus think about it they single handedly murdered more then 1800 people ,(men, women,and children, but yet no one here has even grouped them with any relgion or groups of people ,it is scary to think that so many people are so narrow minded they cannot see beyond there own noses, i pray for those,of us who will and continue to be judged for our choice of religion,that we just stay strong in our own faith ,and fight the GOOD fight for GOD ,in peace an harmony,love,and by example,peace be with all of you ..... thankyou

 
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Zgubiony
  Nov 28, 07, 09:08  #123

Quoting: dianne
there is very good reasons for this and it all makes sense

It makes no sense and this is the problem with rules within religions. Any person being human should be entitled to marry any other human they want regardless of faith.

I see no problems with Catholics marrying Muslims as long as there's still a respect for the woman. Too many stories about non-Muslim women marrying Muslim men and being a prisoner in their country. This is abserd.

 
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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Dec 19, 07, 14:44  #124

Quoting: dianne
it is against islam for muslim women to marry a non muslim man, while it is accepted for a muslim man to marry a non muslim woman,there is very good reasons for this and it all makes sense


Sure It makes sense. It's only a matter of time when a man will force Islam on the woman and their children too of course.

 
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olejnik
Edited by: Admin  Dec 26, 07, 21:27  #125

Islam has no place in Polish history, nor it's future.

Polish women, be for warned; Muslims are attempting to infiltrate their extreme beliefs now into Poland through you. Don't be fooled...Allah is not the god of the Christian's, but the moon god, the lord of the kabah.

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.



Also...listen to what the Koran teaches about Jesus Christ and Christians.

The Bible teaches that Christians should not be unequally yokes.

2 Corinthians 6:14

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

Check out these helpful links.
biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
truthandgrace.com/allah.htm

 
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sledz
Edited by: sledz  Dec 26, 07, 21:37  #126

They have plenty of women in thier own country!
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BubbaWoo
  Dec 26, 07, 21:37  #127

yeah... and you better watch out for them caflicks too... specially when theres children around

 
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Eurola ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 26, 07, 22:22  #128

I heard on a polish internet radio that there is a talk about building islamic cultural center in Cracow...are there enough muslims living in the city already to justify it?

 
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hancock
  Dec 26, 07, 22:31  #129

can a moslem convert to any other religion?

 
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Maxxx Payne
  Dec 27, 07, 07:12  #130

hancock wrote:
can a moslem convert to any other religion?


no, penalty for that is death. And they call us "intolerant"...

 
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bellzii
  Dec 27, 07, 12:26  #131

hancock wrote:
can a moslem convert to any other religion?

Maxxx Payne wrote:
no, penalty for that is death. And they call us "intolerant"...


First in the quran it says

"Let there be no compulsion in Religion"
"And say: "The truth is from your Lord." Then
whosoever wills, let him believe, and whosoever wills,
let him disbelieve."


So it clearly states that ur not forced to be a muslim.

here is a link that explains everything about apostasy



And you can check your scriptures in the bible

" . . neither shall thine eye pity him (the apostate), neither shalt thou spare him, neither shalt thou conceal him: "But thou shalt SURELY KILL HIM: thine hand shall be first upon him TO PUT HIM TO DEATH . . ."
DEUTERONOMY 13 -8 9 "

 
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Maxxx Payne
  Dec 27, 07, 13:05  #132

bellzii wrote:
" . . neither shall thine eye pity him (the apostate), neither shalt thou spare him, neither shalt thou conceal him: "But thou shalt SURELY KILL HIM: thine hand shall be first upon him TO PUT HIM TO DEATH . . ."
DEUTERONOMY 13 -8 9 "



lets get the thery part first: Deuteronomy is part of Old Testament not New which is more important to Christians. And Jesus never forced anything to anyone.

"the real life"-part: Why is it that in the christian/western countries no-one who converts is persecuted, while it happens all time in muslim countries. And we are talking about countries and peoples in collective scale here, not individual cases here, so no "my friend converted to Islam and was spat on face by a christian"-examples.

 
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bellzii
  Dec 28, 07, 05:11  #133

Maxxx Payne wrote:
while it happens all time in muslim countries.


strangely ive never heard about some1 being killed in my country because he/she left islam,but ive heard about christians who converted to islam being killed by their relatives !!!

 
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doomic
  Dec 28, 07, 14:28  #134

sledz wrote:
They have plenty of women in thier own country!

What's ur problem?? A woman who went on a demonstration protesting against preventing her from wearing the hijab sure wants to put it on.."human rights" what's ur problem?!
Will u ban mixed marriages from different nationalities? Go on ..try it out ..

 
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oli
Edited by: oli  Jul 22, 08, 18:10  #135

hi i am new to this web but it has a lot in common with my situation I am getting married to iranian guy in about one month i am still not sure is that right decission to do as he want me to go with him on holidays to his country will i ever come back?

 
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McCoy
  Jul 22, 08, 18:33  #136

oli:
i am still not sure is that right decission to do as he want me to go with him on holidays to his country will i ever come back?


lol. if you are not sure dont get married.

 
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Wulkan
Edited by: Wulkan  Jul 23, 08, 12:19  #137

oli:
will i ever come back?


If your family has enough money for Rutkowski team...

 
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glamrockxx
  Jul 28, 08, 20:16  #138

I've dated 2 Muslims; one Albanian, the other Bosnian. I heard there are 2 types of Muslim, but I may be wrong...however, I don't believe they were as bad as Muslim people are portrayed. Maybe middle-eastern Muslims are worse; I don't know.

But just in my opinion (not being a Polish woman lol), I'd prefer to marry into my religion. I feel that you need to be able to compromise and be dedicated to make things work, but that goes for everything.

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 28, 08, 20:19  #139

glamrockxx:

I've dated 2 Muslims; one Albanian, the other Bosnian. I heard there are 2 types of Muslim, but I may be wrong...however, I don't believe they were as bad as Muslim people are portrayed. Maybe middle-eastern Muslims are worse; I don't know.

with respect love, it looks like you should know what your talking about having been out with a few Muslims in your time :).

glamrockxx:

But just in my opinion (not being a Polish woman lol), I'd prefer to marry into my religion. I feel that you need to be able to compromise and be dedicated to make things work, but that goes for everything.

so your a muslim yourself?? why would you not consider a 'non religious' guy like me? does religion play that much a part in your life??

 
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glamrockxx
  Jul 28, 08, 20:28  #140

tornado2007:
so your a muslim yourself?? why would you not consider a 'non religious' guy like me? does religion play that much a part in your life??


I'm not Muslim. I'm Catholic.

I never said I wouldn't consider a non-religious guy. In all honesty, I'm not even hardcore into Catholicism. I guess it would be easier to be with someone with about the same beliefs or just the same practices. Like Christmas or Lent lol Not that it's the most important thing. It's just that if I were to be with someone with opposite beliefs, he would have to be the one to convert. Because I love my religion. lol And I'm selfish. =p

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 28, 08, 20:35  #141

glamrockxx:

I'm not Muslim. I'm Catholic.

ok sorry, i should have known that, i mean about 96% of Poland is Catholic, lol. It ust be because its so late here and my concentration is some what deplenished.

glamrockxx:
I never said I wouldn't consider a non-religious guy.

ok thats my misunderstanding then, i'm sorry for thinking that.

glamrockxx:
In all honesty, I'm not even hardcore into Catholicism

phew, i get enough of the Catholic/Protestant thing when i go to Scotland, its all to do with the football thing up there, i won't bore you with it though. I'm suppoed to be a proddy but i don't really care about religion at all.

glamrockxx:
I guess it would be easier to be with someone with about the same beliefs or just the same practices. Like Christmas or Lent lol Not that it's the most important thing.

i agree, i could not imagine what the year would be like without Christmas that would just be so strange. I guess i could live without lent, its never really been a big mark on my calendar but i once took part in it at school :).

glamrockxx:
t's just that if I were to be with someone with opposite beliefs, he would have to be the one to convert.

lol, well at least a guy with no religion is open to conversion a lot easier than say a hardcore Muslim :):):)

glamrockxx:
Because I love my religion. lol And I'm selfish. =p

fair play, i guess people can love their religions. I've never felt anything for god or any other being that has appeared in religious books. I would describe myself as selfless so totally the opposite to selfish. My mother tells me i'm going to end up with a really selfish girlfriend/wife as i'm so selfless, she will have all the power etc etc. Mothers hay, what are they for?? lol

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 28, 08, 20:38  #142

tornado2007:
so your a muslim yourself?? why would you not consider a 'non religious' guy like me? does religion play that much a part in your life??


his name isnt tornado2007 its Hornado2008 ;)

lmao.. had to ;)

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 28, 08, 20:39  #143

Patrycja19:


his name isnt tornado2007 its Hornado2008 ;)

wow their Pilgrim, i was merely using myself as an example not being suggestive, lol.

However the name is funny :):):)

Patrycja19:
lmao.. had to ;)

its all kool

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 28, 08, 20:44  #144

tornado2007:
wow their Pilgrim, i was merely using myself as an example not being suggestive, lol.

However the name is funny :):):)


:) <BIG GRINS> lmao

I thought you knew I was notorious for jumpin in.. :) sorry it was open and
I took it. lol... hes really nice and hes not a hornado like I said :)

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 28, 08, 20:46  #145

Patrycja19:

I thought you knew I was notorious for jumpin in.. :) sorry it was open and
I took it. lol... hes really nice and hes not a hornado like I said :)

hahaha, its ok, i don't mind 'jump ins' as you put them, it adds to the entertainment :)

There is no problems from me, if you can't be the brunt of a joke then you have no right telling them either so its swings and roundabouts for me

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 28, 08, 21:01  #146

tornado2007:
hahaha, its ok, i don't mind 'jump ins' as you put them, it adds to the entertainment :)


see told ya hes nice guy,, if he can let me mess with him.. hes alright :) lol

 
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glamrockxx
  Jul 28, 08, 21:20  #147

tornado2007:
I've never felt anything for god or any other being that has appeared in religious books.

To each his own ;)
tornado2007:
I would describe myself as selfless so totally the opposite to selfish. My mother tells me i'm going to end up with a really selfish girlfriend/wife as i'm so selfless, she will have all the power etc etc.

You probably will. Oops! Let's hope she doesn't abuse her power! I used to be selfless to my Muslim boyfriends and they walked all over me. Boo! So screw that, it's all about my needs! haha just kidding!! My boyfriend is selfless. But I definitely don't take advantage of it. Scouts honor!

 
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tornado2007
Edited by: tornado2007  Jul 29, 08, 06:07  #148

Patrycja19:

see told ya hes nice guy,, if he can let me mess with him.. hes alright :) lol


see i'm not all blusty strong winds :)

glamrockxx:

To each his own ;)


yeah i think that is important, everybody has a choice and should be allowed to make their own decisions. This is something i didn't feel i had at school as we had Christianity shoved down our throats more than food!!!. Every morning we had to say the Lord's prayer, now that got on my nerves. I mean can you imagine, the whole school hall in prayer and nobody gave a dam, in fact people just used to change the words to get a cheap laugh. I can't imagine what it is like in schools today, there is so much religion about, those RE lessons must be a nightmare. As far as i'm concerned RE should be a lesson of choice, if your religious or have a religious background then attend them, if not, whats wrong it some extra PT or somethng like that.

glamrockxx:

You probably will. Oops! Let's hope she doesn't abuse her power!


I don't mind giving a little power away, i am more than capable of making clear, sound decisions but am not a control freak. Put it this way i would rather be with a girl who likes to make the decisions or likes to have a little control because it shows they care enough in the first place to want to do that. When i lived with one of my previous girlfriends i let her deal with finances etc etc and i just dealt with the trivial things, although i did get to choose the Holidays :).

glamrockxx:
I used to be selfless to my Muslim boyfriends and they walked all over me. Boo!

i'm affraid that comes with the terroitory, the way that the 'woman' is percieved in the Muslim religion is, as you know, much less than equal to a man. They will naturally assume control and full power in any relationship, no matter how sefless you act. I have to be honest if i was a woman i would be giving those Muslim me a wide birth :).

glamrockxx:
So screw that, it's all about my needs! haha just kidding!! My boyfriend is selfless. But I definitely don't take advantage of it

i think there is room for taking advantaage, sometimes people are sefless because they can't or do not want to make decisions, in relationships this can be terminal unless the other half of the relationship is willing to make those decisions. Personally i'm very strong in the mind and have an opinion about everything (You may be able to tell if you have ever read any of my posts :) ) but don't feel the need to control everything, which is something i've learned as i've grown up. I used to want to control everything, that however dosent' work.

P.S. wow i've just read that and its a little long isn't it, lol.

 
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ShelleyS
  Jul 29, 08, 07:01  #149

glamrockxx:
I heard there are 2 types of Muslim


Whilst Muslims would have you believe they are all the same there are several types of Mulsim

Shia, Sunni, Wahabi and Sufi - Sufi are in general very moderate and certainly not representative of Muslims in general - Sunni and Shia quite enjoy butchering each other whilst the Wahabi quite enjoy murdering both Sunni and Shia, but aparently they are all equal in the eyes of Allah!

 
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glamrockxx
  Jul 29, 08, 09:35  #150

tornado2007:
i've just read that and its a little long isn't it

I enjoy reading ur posts. I enjoy other people's opinions.

 
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