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blackadder
  Dec 19, 07, 14:46  #151

as kids like to say ''my Daddy is stronger than yours''

well that's main reason why today we have no tolerancy between religions.we are all just little spoiled brats.


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Grzegorz_
  Dec 19, 07, 15:05  #152

Quoting: bellzii
just give urself a chance by reading in the Quran.


Christ ! Dude, can't you understand that vast majority of non-Muslims simply don't want to "give themself a chance" ? Why can't you just shut up ? You people are like fags. You can't keep that private, you have to run around and scream about It. Can't you understand that most of people in non-Muslim countries don't like this kind of behavior ? Can't you respect your host countries, which gave you a chance for much better life and simply stop trying to push your religion and culture on others, who simply don't want It ? Don't you understand that you are only creating anti-Islamic feelings ? We don't use to discuss about Islam here, we simply don't care about It. Yours come here sometimes, start topics like this one, provokes others and then scream how "arrogant" we are. No, you are arrogant, anyone with a few active brain cells should see that.


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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Dec 19, 07, 15:30  #153

Quoting: Grzegorz_
stop trying to push your religion and culture on others

I agree with that - nobody should try to force their religion on anyone else.

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blackadder
  Dec 19, 07, 16:07  #154

Quoting: _Sofi_
I agree with that - nobody should try to force their religion on anyone else.




can I say Amen to that?
Or it's too provoking for non-Catholics?
Damn,I'm confused:(


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osiol
  Dec 19, 07, 16:42  #155

Quoting: blackadder
Or it's too provoking for non-Catholics?

Not just Catholics say amen.
Either if it rhymes with carmen or with shamen.


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bellzii
Edited by: bellzii  Dec 20, 07, 11:29  #156

Grzegorz_ wrote:
We don't use to discuss about Islam here, we simply don't care about It.

Daa what does the post say :polish women and muslim men

I guess muslim means a person following islam , which as i expected ppl started saying things as: terrorists, women abusers, blood thursty ppl....etc.

Im a muslim and its my duty to clarify and to show the right islam not what as some did , just copy paste some urls with anti-islamic stuff. I just posted all sources of information about islam, so that people can know what is the truth about islam.

Secondly im not trying to force anyone to anything , if u wanna check the links go ahead , dont want 2 its ur choice.
Its clear in the quran "No compulsion in religion"

Well if i have harmed anyone with anything ive said i appologize, other than that i have the right to remove those misconceptions being thrown.


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Grzegorz_
  Dec 20, 07, 15:03  #157

bellzii wrote:

Daa what does the post say :polish women and muslim men


And what is religion of a person who started It ?

What could anyone expect after writing things like:

dianne wrote:
nonsense people in this forum,who cannot see beyond their own noses

dianne wrote:
Allah the all knowing



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southern
  Dec 20, 07, 15:05  #158

bellzii wrote:
Daa what does the post say :polish women and muslim men


Why not say english men and muslim men?

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Maxxx Payne
  Dec 20, 07, 15:53  #159

isisores wrote:
as it doesn't make you a devil what the things hitler or bush done because of being in same religion, this doesn't make muslims bad people.



a) Hitler was not christian but pagan, he might have been a born as Christian but thats about it
b) Does Bush ever mentioned of going to war for spreading chistianity ? Actually he is quite buddies with them saudi princes.

But yeah yeah, gime just some verse in Quran how Islam is all roses but the fact remains that Islamic societys oppress women among other stuff.

This is like discussing with a communist who keeps telling "SU wasnt real communism" and "how wonderful the TRUE commmunism is".
It is real life what counts not some nice words about how ist should be. And I say no thank you !


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AHMEDTAHA222
Edited by: AHMEDTAHA222  Dec 21, 07, 17:04  #160

HI EVRY ONE
I WAS READ ALL THIS MESSAGE AND I WANT TO SAY THE EMPORT THING IS LOVE AND GIVEN WITHOUT ASKING THATS THE GOOD REALTIONSHEP.THATS IS LOVE .IF YOU WANT TO BE ALOVER YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE HEARD WAY TO THIS LOVE .LIKE YOU HAVE TO LOVE THE MEANING OF LOVE .YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOUR GIRL LIKE YOU WILL NOT SEE HER AGINE .LOVE WITH ALL YOUR FEELING LOVE WITH YOUR HEART YOUR SOLT YOUR AYES YOUR BODY YOUR DREAMING LOVE HER WITH ALL YOU GOTE.AFTER THAT YOU WILL BE GOOD LOVER

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isisores
  Dec 21, 07, 18:46  #161

Maxxx Payne wrote:
It is real life what counts not some nice words about how ist should be. And I say no thank you !

so didn't christians burn women because of they were "witch"? and didn't attack middle east for religion as crusaders? or what about nigeria, how christian priests exploit people as blaming their children witch and burry them alive if they don't pay to church, and it's happening RIGHT NOW.

do you think it's because of christianity religion? i don't think so either. some people have bad education and bad economical conditions. so you can easily deceive them under the religion mask. like church did to europeans in middle age and now as terror groups do in middle east etc... etc...

i'm not so much religious person but, i know that blaming islam or all muslims like this has the same thinking style as the people you blame.


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marek s
  Dec 21, 07, 20:54  #162

Kilkline wrote:
all religious wars are about is who's imaginary friend is better."



well and truthfully said

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bellzii
  Dec 22, 07, 03:50  #163

Kilkline wrote:
all religious wars are about is who's imaginary friend is better."


Well, Why should there even be a religious war in the first place. Why not live in peace.


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OmarUK
Edited by: OmarUK  Dec 22, 07, 07:23  #164

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Yours come here sometimes, start topics like this one, provokes others and then scream how "arrogant" we are. No, you are arrogant, anyone with a few active brain cells should see that.


Provoke others???
The original poster in my opinion....just wanted to express her opinions....
Just look at the initial responses....they just take the p.iss.

Bellzii reccommended that you read the quran....and get an understanding what Islam and moderate muslims (rub your eyes...YES we do exist) are about....but you chose to be ignorant...not willing to learn about something that you really know nothing about...all that you know is the negative biased coverage you see in the media...
At any point have we the muslim respondents on this thread responded with any extremist or terrorist views...look and read carefully...We haven't....
Brainwashed comes to mind...You say muslims have been brainwashed...in actual truth it is you have who have been brainwashed...with all the negative coverage in the media.

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Dec 22, 07, 09:09  #165

isisores wrote:
i know that blaming islam


It's not really about Islam, It's about the Muslims, who come to western countries in millions and (not all of course but many enough) don't want to assimilate, don't have respect for local culture, abuse rights they get, try to convert as many people as It is possible etc.

The reason why often Islam is blamed for that instead of people, who actually do this is because the 2nd one would be called "racism" and the first one is nothing wrong as people in most of western countries has been trashing their own religion for so long that you can't expect anything else from them in case of other religions.

OmarUK wrote:
The original poster in my opinion....just wanted to express her opinions....


Sure she does "nonsense people", "Allah the all knowing" etc.

OmarUK wrote:
Bellzii reccommended that you read the quran....


I'm not going to do this. Why the hell should I do ? Do you expect me to read all the myths in the world ?

bellzii wrote:
Why not live in peace.


Yep. If only those damn Christian terrorists stopped blowing people up in Muslim countries, If only millions of Christains stopped coming to Muslim countries, agressivly spread their religion and abuse the system... What a great world that would be.


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AHMEDTAHA222
  Dec 25, 07, 14:03  #166

all religion coom from one just one allah our gud he seending his bassinger to us .so all our learning cooming form on sort from gud .so there is no reason to be an emany for each other if you realy pleaving in gud you will be all of you are brothers and live in peac.
so please understanding what our gud seending cearfouly.

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Madzia22
  Dec 25, 07, 14:29  #167

AHMEDTAHA222 wrote:
all religion coom from one just one allah our gud he seending his bassinger to us .so all our learning cooming form on sort from gud .so there is no reason to be an emany for each other if you realy pleaving in gud you will be all of you are brothers and live in peac.
so please understanding what our gud seending cearfouly.


I hope allah speaks better english

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bellzii
  Dec 25, 07, 14:32  #168

Madzia22 wrote:
I hope allah speaks better english


I hope you watch your mouth. I know the word "Allah" makes many think its a special god or something, it simply means god in arabic.

In the gospel , the arabic copies it has the word allah even arab jews have in the torah the word god.


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cubic
  Dec 25, 07, 15:19  #169

bellzii wrote:
I know the word "Allah" makes many think its a special god or something, it simply means god in arabic.

That is my understanding, too. Nevertheless, the Malaysian Internal Security Ministry is of the view that the word Allah refers specifically to the Muslim god and may not appropriately be used in reference to the Christian god. See Malaysian Catholic weekly told to drop use of 'Allah' in order to renew publishing permit. The Malaysian government has also prohibited the use of three other words by non-Muslims: solat "prayer", Kaabah "the shrine in Mecca", and baitulah "the house of god". Ain't freedom of speech wonderful?


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bellzii
  Dec 26, 07, 08:52  #170

cubic wrote:
Malaysian government has also prohibited the use of three other words by non-Muslims

What if im a non muslim and i used it , will they sue me or what?
Cubic we must differentiate between islam and muslim and also chrsitians and christianity, cuz they not always reflect each other


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Maxxx Payne
  Dec 26, 07, 12:07  #171

isisores wrote:

Maxxx Payne wrote:
It is real life what counts not some nice words about how ist should be. And I say no thank you !

so didn't christians burn women because of they were "witch"? and didn't attack middle east for religion as crusaders? or what about nigeria, how christian priests exploit people as blaming their children witch and burry them alive if they don't pay to church, and it's happening RIGHT NOW.



Witch-burnings and crusades were a long time ago, nowadays when comparing evils being done by different religions (meaning their followers), Islams presentation is much higher than others.


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isisores
  Dec 26, 07, 16:05  #172

Maxxx Payne wrote:
Witch-burnings and crusades were a long time ago, nowadays when comparing evils being done by different religions (meaning their followers), Islams presentation is much higher than others.

you understand everything, other than the point i try to explain. are we making our religions race here?
i mean religions are innocent, problem is having low education level and bad economical conditions or other stuff like this. so you can't blame or judge people because of their religion. there can be bigot muslims, even maybe they are so much but it doesn't mean there can't be modern ones.


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Alex75
  Dec 26, 07, 16:59  #173

Hi guys! First of all i would like to apologise for my ignorance in Polish women, as i am going to ask some harsh question.
Why Polish women cheat on their boyfriends and husbands why? I do again apologise for generalisation but such i have experience until today. I had a polish girlfriend and i never told her that we are going to have serious relationship, so once when we went to pub she was looking at the other guy. As i said it was just going out for the second time and it was casual sex date. During that day she told me that she has cheated on her exboyfriend with a married guy. And she has also cheated on her fiance with her exboyfriend.At the time it was ok as i looked at her as a girl that i would have a casual sex with. But now i know for myself that i have got feelings for her. My question is, is it a habit or does it happen a lot that polish women cheat on their partners or have i fallen for a wrong person. Once more my apologies to polish girls if it was harsh but it is something i would like to know. Please be as honest as possible.
Many thanks

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doomic
  Dec 26, 07, 17:25  #174

Grzegorz_ wrote:
If only millions of Christains stopped coming to Muslim countries, agressivly spread their religion and abuse the system... What a great world that would be.

LOL...did they spread their religion by telling ppl that we have trinity just like in christianity.
This is what christian missionaries do in africa and they call their church masjid"thatis desperate".I can not imagine that muslims came into your country and forced ppl to convert.Do u believe yourself when u say that?..U ppl claim u r pro-human rights...ppl can go wherever they want and can b muslims whether others want that or not as long as they won't force it on ppl .Read the history of jerusalem and maybe u'll figure out the truth 4 urself

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 26, 07, 17:28  #175

doomic wrote:
ppl can go wherever they want and can b muslims


But often can't be Christians or other non-Muslims. That's the point.


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doomic
  Dec 26, 07, 17:57  #176

Grzegorz_ wrote:

But often can't be Christians or other non-Muslims.

Have u heard of the prophet's companion "Omar ibn al khattab". If islam did not guarantee the freedom of belief then why would he have a treaty with christians in jerusalem when he could send them out????sure u can choose ur creed but it's also important to convey the message and if ppl refuse to accept Islam then it's their own business

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Maxxx Payne
Edited by: Maxxx Payne  Dec 27, 07, 07:17  #177

isisores wrote:
Maxxx Payne wrote:
Witch-burnings and crusades were a long time ago, nowadays when comparing evils being done by different religions (meaning their followers), Islams presentation is much higher than others.

you understand everything, other than the point i try to explain. are we making our religions race here?
i mean religions are innocent, problem is having low education level and bad economical conditions or other stuff like this. so you can't blame or judge people because of their religion. there can be bigot muslims, even maybe they are so much but it doesn't mean there can't be modern ones.

sure sure, you know commies and nazis say same thing: ideology itself is great, it is just "bigot" nazis and communists who are to blame.


doomic wrote:
and if ppl refuse to accept Islam then it's their own business


you left out the most important part: and face the consequences. Christians and Jews must pay special tax for their infidelness, other religions are not tolerated at all.


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bellzii
  Dec 27, 07, 11:50  #178

Maxxx Payne wrote:
Christians and Jews must pay special tax

When u pay taxes in a muslim country , muslim military protect the civilians whether muslims or not and also taxes help for the country's welfare, i think this is what all countries have.
No country is a tax free country.
Thing is islam came to be a way of life , a system to build a nation, not only some rituals you do in some worship place


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Maxxx Payne
  Dec 27, 07, 12:17  #179

bellzii wrote:

Maxxx Payne wrote:
Christians and Jews must pay special tax

When u pay taxes in a muslim country , muslim military protect the civilians whether muslims or not and also taxes help for the country's welfare, i think this is what all countries have.
No country is a tax free country.



Pay attention to the word "special". Christians and Jews have to pay extra tax for being Jew/Christian.

Of course I know that almost all countries have taxes.
Please no more straw man argumentation :)


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Grzegorz_
  Dec 27, 07, 15:01  #180

doomic wrote:
Have u heard of the prophet's companion "Omar ibn al khattab".


No but I heard about Saudi Arabia and a few other Muslim countries.


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