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Marley
  Jan 15, 08, 13:59  #211

Nice topic but complicated!!!

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doomic
  Jan 16, 08, 17:27  #212

JustysiaS wrote:
Polish girls dont fancy muslims, and they dont fancy black men, either. at least me and wyspi dont

I got an evidence...lol... this is what u do .Damian i don't know u but thanks for being rational.

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Wyspianska
  Jan 16, 08, 22:13  #213

yeah sure you got evidence geeez
fuc*k you and be happy without talking about me


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gouzmalargh
  Jan 18, 08, 14:15  #214

And also, for those of you who might guess it, I am muslim. And to those who are Muslim or not...and belief that a Muslim man has the right to convert his wife to Islam: well sorry to burst your bubbles, but a true Muslim knows that it is unacceptable and unfaithful to force your wife to belief to convert by force. If she wants to, then that's good.

If not, then as a Muslim man, you are not allowed to force her into conversion. In fact, you must allow her to pray, go to church (or whichever), have her christmas tree, have her study groups....and so on.

The only thing you can abolish in your home, even if she is not Muslim, is alcohol! (and possibly porc...) but you better do your own research.


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dianne [Guest]
  Feb 14, 08, 23:19  #215

ok hello...i am Dianne and i do apologize for being so arrogant and seemingly angry..i did not mean to offend anyone..as a new muslim i am ashamed of my words please accept my regrets for saying such things as i have... thankyou for understanding.... i truley am ashamed of the rude things i said... i just want to do what is fight for me and my god...... thanks Dianne

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espana
Edited by: espana  Feb 15, 08, 03:33  #216

gouzmalargh wrote:
and belief that a Muslim man has the right to convert his wife to Islam:

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gouzmalargh wrote:
I am muslim

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gouzmalargh wrote:
The only thing you can abolish in your home, even if she is not Muslim, is alcohol! (and possibly porc...) but you better do your own research.

:( that to much now!!!!


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areklech
  Feb 15, 08, 03:36  #217

i think the polish girls who arent born as muslims or who fuly follwo the religion should think twice
u have many muslim friends and as we are gettign older we are drifitng apart, they are focusing on their family and religion,,
i know people think that mix mariages are possible but its hard work, and what about all these girls who have to change the way they dress, the way they eat mingle with theyr family.. i actually havent met one of my good freidns wife becasue they are always in the 'womens' room.

i know theyre religion and why they do it but i have seen many girls who have to give up so much

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dianne [Guest]
Edited by: dianne  Feb 15, 08, 21:01  #218

hello just checkening to see if anyone is here...ok well ttyl diane

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dianne [Guest]
  Feb 18, 08, 16:47  #219

i find this topic very interesting in what others have to say about muslim a nonmuslims together polish an muslims arnt we just all people when it comes down to it.... i think love really knows no boundries,,,it just happens, and i really believe that God has everything to do with love ,,but we as humans have a tendency to ruin it.... and then put blame on relgion,or on Islam , or just about anything else but our own self,,, we just pass blame around for love gone bad,,i think we all need to look inward at our self first ,

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dianne [Guest]
  Feb 21, 08, 21:46  #220

hi not much activity on here latley,,i just want to say hi to everyone whou reads this ,,, i love reading the reply's and i hope everyone is doing good,,,, i may be going to poland this spring ,,if all works out i will and i cant wait to see my homeland......... im excited if thats ok

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dianne [Guest]
  Mar 7, 08, 00:05  #221

hello... guess what ?still muslim...and still very happy with my decision,,,all my choice; and i will be married soon,,,insahallh.... and he is a most wonderful muslim man ,,i m so happy,,we will have a beautiful life together for allah....

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Patrycja19
  Mar 7, 08, 00:19  #222

dianne wrote:
still muslim...and still very happy with my decision,,,


do you have to cover your head/hair?

do you have to wear traditional dress? and cover up all the way?

just asking..

do you do these things for Islam? or the sake of becoming true muslim?


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Zgubiony
  Mar 7, 08, 09:19  #223

dianne wrote:
hello... guess what ?still muslim...and still very happy with my decision,,,all my choice; and i will be married soon,,,insahallh.... and he is a most wonderful muslim man ,,i m so happy,,we will have a beautiful life together for allah....


So, where in the US did you convert, or were you overseas?

Patrycja19 wrote:
do you have to wear traditional dress? and cover up all the way


Not all muslim women cover themselves in the states, so i'm curious too.



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Arien
  Mar 7, 08, 09:27  #224

Zgubiony wrote:
Not all muslim women cover themselves in the states, so i'm curious too.


Well, not only in the States, you can take a look in Kosovo for instance. Women over there don't cover up themselves either..


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 09:42  #225

Interestingly enough all of these restrictions on women...head coverings, not driving etc are not dictated by Islam...they are dictated by MEN in order to control things.

dianne wrote:
hello... guess what ?still muslim...and still very happy with my decision,,,all my choice; and i will be married soon,,,insahallh.... and he is a most wonderful muslim man ,,i m so happy,,we will have a beautiful life together for allah....


And will you still think he is so wonderful when he is off with his second or third wife and family? I don't think anyone would feel good about their wife or husband sleeping with another woman and caring for another family while you sit alone waiting for them to come back.

Sure for the men it is great...

It is a well known phenomenon that non muslim Western or European women who marry into the culture most often later regret it when they experience the reality of the lifestyle. Once you have kids and are in their country things become MUCH harder to get away from.

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ShelleyS
  Mar 7, 08, 10:02  #226

jones101 wrote:
Interestingly enough all of these restrictions on women...head coverings, not driving etc are not dictated by Islam...they are dictated by MEN in order to control things.


This is what I have said all along, restrictions are man made, not only in Islam but in all religions..

About 10 years ago you hardly noticed women wearing scarves, now it probably unusual see to an asian girl not wearing one... or at least thats the way it in North Manchester (England)


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 10:09  #227

IF people truly believe in something you don't need laws to make them adhere. The only places where all women cover their heads have laws requiring it. In more liberal muslim countries loads of women dont cover.



Also agreed on ALL religions being manipulated by man not just Islam. Christianity has laws to push it's agenda too...abortion...taxes for churches....on and on.

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bajka
  Mar 7, 08, 11:53  #228

Hey, hey, I have lived in the middle east now for 3 years and the whole Islam thing still has me figuring what its all about.....brain washing people, ramadan, hiding your women, restricting them, no drinking alcohol etc..... what's all that about ?

Because of these restrictions on society many young middle eastern men have no contact with women so they experiment with their own sex..... this is so wrong ! Rape between young men is common too, is this what islam is all about ?


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 12:00  #229

Yep....My time there has shown me that most men from the region are hypocrites as they drink, get prostitutes or as you said experiment, etc etc....it is a big show. Look at how the royals live in several countries there and tell me they are pious.

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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 12:12  #230

on this type of thing, my friend has just married a muslim lady, he has had to change so much about his life and totally change his style. There are so many rules that are imposed on him by her religion 'islam' i can't believe it, he must really love her and good on him for converting (thats coming from me who dosen't like religion).

However i can't see many other men/woman doing the same, giving up their lives and living in such a way that they may be uncomfortable for a long time just for the sake of love!!!. so the question polish women and muslim men, its not a race thing as colour of skin etc really dosen't make a difference but the whole religious baggage that comes with it i can see it putting a lot of people off


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Zgubiony
  Mar 7, 08, 12:16  #231

tornado2007 wrote:
However i can't see many other men/woman doing the same, giving up their lives and living in such a way that they may be uncomfortable for a long time just for the sake of love!!!. so the question polish women and muslim men, its not a race thing as colour of skin etc really dosen't make a difference but the whole religious baggage that comes with it i can see it putting a lot of people off


I can't see how life can be enjoyed with all of these sacrifices. To prepare your entire life for death seems like a waste. I can't say anything bad about it because to some this is important. I just wouldn't do this to myself. There's too much out there to enjoy for this short lifetime we have.



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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 12:22  #232

Zgubiony wrote:

I can't see how life can be enjoyed with all of these sacrifices. To prepare your entire life for death seems like a waste. I can't say anything bad about it because to some this is important. I just wouldn't do this to myself. There's too much out there to enjoy for this short lifetime we have.

i totally agree with that


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bajka
  Mar 7, 08, 14:20  #233

More to the point, go figure this.......

Muslim men are allowed to marry christian or jewish women as long as the women convert to islam.

Muslim women are not allowed to marry christian or jewish men.....under no condition !

Well unless they are willing to run away from their country and families as they face persecution or death otherwise....... nice eh?

Sounds to me like islam is being imposed on the whole world and its only a matter of time.....


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 14:22  #234

Of course....that is why there is so much uproar over Islam. This is not a religion that advocates peace and equality...at least not the way it is interpreted by the masses.

Plus...I like Bacon too much. :)

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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 14:23  #235

bajka wrote:

Muslim women are not allowed to marry christian or jewish men.....under no condition !

wow this could start the whole, islam mistreets women debate again, which it does do by the way, but my answer is to get all the religious scripts pile them all up put the symbols on the top and start a bonfire :) then the world will be free of so much


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bajka
  Mar 7, 08, 14:31  #236

tornado2007 wrote:
but my answer is to get all the religious scripts pile them all up put the symbols on the top and start a bonfire :) then the world will be free of so much


I'll drink to that......... mine's a big bottle of zubrowka..... with a dash of red bull !


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 14:33  #237

tornado2007 wrote:
wow this could start the whole, islam mistreets women debate again, which it does do by the way, but my answer is to get all the religious scripts pile them all up put the symbols on the top and start a bonfire :) then the world will be free of so much


Amen to the idea ;)

But you'd also have to burn all the people who believe in those religions or it would never change.

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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 14:33  #238

bajka wrote:

I'll drink to that......... mine's a big bottle of zubrowka..... with a dash of red bull !

i'll join you with just that combination of drink, ooopppsss that is at the end of the year when my new years challenge finishes :)


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dianne [Guest]
  Mar 7, 08, 15:45  #239

hello,,, i am well prepared for anything that comes my way with my husband and in Islam,,Allah knows best ,,and if my husabnd can support another wife and give equal treatment according to Islam he must be giving to all his wives equally,,but really that is not an issue with me ,,,him and i just want to be only for each other right now ,,,and i totally trust my husband,,and totally believe with all my heart that islam is best for me,,,

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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 15:48  #240

Wow you really did drink the kool-aid....I hope when you wake up you have friends or family that can help you out.

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