Polish workers in Denmark

Polish people who works in Denmark have bad conditions.
They get jobs under falsh conditions. Many workers are being cheated in the agreements with the employers. Lowere salaries that promised, because a very high
payment of the apartments, who they stay in. Many apartmens are in bad shape and the polish workers must live many persons together in one flat.
Shamely and unjustified!!!!

The history is going around. Fore many years ago my grandparents where wanderarbei -
tern (seasonworker) in the prussian Breslau. They came from Dankow, northwest from
Czestochowa to Olesno and the prussian border. "Packed" in closed cargoweagons they
and many others from Poland were transported to Breslau. Hard working conditions and
lot of discrimination from the german schlesian was the daily life of my grandparent.
Im crying in my soul - The same history can i observed in Denmark and Sweden........

Hola Jola

Sadly poorer countries (EU or otherwise) all suffer the same kind of social problems.
A lack of resilience, self pride, inventiveness and determination to make the 'grass on their side of the
hill' as green as anyone else's.

Apparent wealth and happiness doesn't fall out of the sky and into your hands.
Citizens of any given country have to show the right qualities in their population/culture at large,
and be more positive about their identity.

It is a very easy route for individuals to take by uprooting to somewhere else where the work is already done ( over decades, even centuries).
A very recent and pitiful example is Africans in make shift boats going to the Canary Islands and arriving on tourist beaches. How sad is that? ....

Generally people that work in those "work camps" don't treat it as a serious, long term job, but rather like something seasonal that will help them stand on their own feet. Let us don't forget that skilled workers and specialists like for example doctors don't have these type of problems. Low skilled workers don't have the luxury of being picky when it comes down to finding a job. No work equals no food, and where’s no food pride and dignity shifts back on the second place. Simple as that. After some time they either go back to their own country with the savings they made for this "slave job" or they are off to find another, this time a better job, leaving their places for other desperate new arrivals.

It's true that some poles do have a tough time of it here, and non-professionals aren't presented with a whole lot of options. The language barrier can be a challenge for poles that don't speak english, as the majority of language classes and translation are in english. One thing to consider about apartments is that they are very expensive for everyone here, also that rentals are uncommon and reasonably priced ones are next to impossible to find. Even so, Many poles are able to build a very good life here.

None of my comments are meant justify unfair and poor treatment of workers, rather to add another perspective. We are very privledged here in scandinavia, natives are used to a high standard of living, and can be naive in understanding what it's like not to have that, or even how it is to have to work very hard to survive. Sometimes what happens with illegal work is that poles looking for jobs don't know the value of their services and agree or offer to work for too low a wage. One that may seem like a lot compared to how much they earn in poland. It's easy for anyone to underestimate how expensive it is to live here. Or how hard cultural integration can be, people are usually pleasant and friendly on the surface, but it can take years to build close relationships with danes and to get a good grasp on danish culture and social interactions.

Since poland joined the EU, there are a growing number of legal jobs and legitiamate polish businesses here in denmark. I hope it contines and that denmark attracts more polish people. :-)

hello

I see many polish people some work here in our town im from denmark!

And i can say this they live in very bad flats

they workd many hours a day and the danish people cheta them for there money

i hate something like that!

If somebody got in trouble with some people some dont want to pay in Denmark let me know i can arrange something so the workers can get the money

It seems like there're more people from Denmark than I thought.

Stolte hilsener til jer begge.

Yea it's sad to "your people" getting used like that, but what makes me really mad is the danes that blames the polish workers instead of the morrons that hire them.

Og hej med jer alle - er ny på forummet, vil gerne lære mit modersprog hvilket jeg har været for doven til hidtil, så tænkte jeg ville starte her :D

Mazurek, hjertelig 'welcome' til forummet!
Det er hyggeligt nok, selvom en del af brugerne desværre er lige lovlig venstraradikale for min smag..

My story is a bit like yours.. My father doesn't see any point in me learning Polish, and earlier on, when my mother tried to teach some few things, then I just rejected to answer her.
As a child it was so easy just to do nothing.. And my mother just didn't do anything about it, so I've never learned much, until now, recently.

Maybe we can support eachother, in learning Polish.

How old are you, by the way?

I'm going to Szczecin the 14th to the 19th of this October, with the travelling agency at www.stettin.dk - those people who also arrange the so-called 'dentist-busses'.

Pozdrawiam!

Jaszczolt

Jo tak :-)

I'm 16 years old, I turn 17 at October 18, when I'm in Poland I live in Szczecin too, I'm travelling with Polferries though.

And "when my mother tried to teach some few things, then I just rejected to answer her.", exactly.
Even though almost everyone I've ever known have told me how great and usefull it is to know several languages, and how much I love to be in Poland, I was just too lazy :(


I've been looking for an online english/danish-polish dictionary for quite some time, do you know one?
Poltran is useless, takes 2+ minutes just to open/refresh the page, and same with the search results.

Regards

We have got our pride.But the social conditions in Poland and other eastern countries makes us to work everywhere in Europe,no matter where.I work in Denmark and its not easy but I love this country and I love the people who lives here.Denish people,you are the best.I want to stay in Denmark forever,to the end of my life....

Davs te' jer, Danske! Hvorfra kommer I saa? Og hvor laenge har I laert jer polsk?

Jeg er ikke polsk, men jeg boede nogle maaneder derover og kunne meget godt lide landskabet, isaer i sommertiden! 'Du danske sommer, jeg elsker dig'.

Danish or Polish are probably easier than English, but, our forum does insist on certain rules.

Jeg haaber, at kunne faa en hyggelig lille snak me' jer allesammen!

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English only please unless in languages forum (even then only Polish) or off topic!