Finding work on Prospective marriage visa, Melbourne ( subclass 300 )

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Feb 8, 10, 04:22 #1

I must say that i'm struggling big time to find a job here ( i'm based in Melbourne ).
My visa is giving me loads of trouble.
I'm getting married here to an Aussie next month, so i'm planning on setteling down here.
But for 98% of jobs that i want and i can apply for ( I have experience in recruitment and call centre ) I have to be an Australian or NZ PERMANENT resident or citizen.
I went to Centrelink and they can't help me ( because of the visa that i'm on ), they sent me off to one of job agencies that they are cooperating with and they couldn't help me as well because I need to be registered with Centrelink to use them ( and I can't register because of the visa thai i'm on ).
I'm very frustrated because i want to work. I'm feed up with sitting at home.
I'm looking on Seek every single day for any available positions, but I have no luck so far.

Maybe you have some information about what i can do in my situation ?

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Edited by: bolek Feb 8, 10, 04:40 #2

Its not easy to come to a foreign country and expect to find income support and employment right away, I guess your boy friend should have done the home work and you would have been more prepared, having said that once you get married and have permanent status all will be more easier.
There is a Polish organisation which helps people like yourself you may want to contact them they are, good luck.

Level 1, 44-56 Hampstead Road, Maidstone, Victoria, 3012
Tel: (03) 9689 9170
Fax: (03) 9687 7446
E-mail: info@apcs.org.au

Sometimes you have to be patient, ensure all your qualifications are translated and recognised, you might also want to contact the Department of Immigration
(I forgot there full name) who will assist in getting stuff translated and help getting language lessons, these are all free.)

Like I say patience is the name of the game, you are living in the best city and best country in the world... believe it.

Unemployent is pretty low at the moment and it shouldn't be too hard finding a job.

(then you can start sending money and parcels to folks back home lol, (just joking)

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Feb 8, 10, 10:03 #3

Thank you very much for information about this polish organisation. I'll definitely give it a go.
Do you think that I should get english lessons ? I've been here for 6 months now and I think that you have to enrol up to 3 months from landing in Australia.
I've been working here before ( 3 mths in call centre ) but it was all commision based sales position and I'm looking to start a proper career here.
Guess I'll keep applying for jobs and be patient.
Thank you one more time for your help.

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Feb 10, 10, 04:05 #4
you could always take up some bar/restaurant work until you find something permanent.

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Feb 11, 10, 01:28 #5

Just had a phonecall from Telstra ( i've applied for a position with them ).
Lovely lady asked me about my visa and few other questions about my previous experience.
She invited me for an interview tomorrow. Then after 10 seconds she called me back saying that because of the visa that i'm on they cannot offer me a position in their company...
Funny thing actually - I've been working on behaf of Telstra for 4 months with different company, and then it was OK with them.
I just dont understand why do i have to be a perm here to get a job ?
Is there a law here that I cant work here even when i have full working rights ?

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Feb 11, 10, 02:51 #6

akaishia:

Is there a law here that I cant work here even when i have full working rights ?

you should reference the terms of your visa?

if it is anything like the working holiday visa for commonwealth nationals then you can only work for 6 months out of the 12 months you're here.

you have worked 4 out of the 6 months, so that probably would put off employers looking for 6 month contractor/permanent.

your best bet is to seek cash paid work (bar/restaurant/cleaning/etc), even if it is just to get out of the house/apartment/flat.

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Edited by: asik Feb 11, 10, 03:20 #7

akaishia:

Just had a phonecall from Telstra ( i've applied for a position with them ).
Lovely lady asked me about my visa and few other questions about my previous experience.
She invited me for an interview tomorrow. Then after 10 seconds she called me back saying that because of the visa that i'm on they cannot offer me a position in their company...
Funny thing actually - I've been working on behaf of Telstra for 4 months with different company, and then it was OK with them.
I just dont understand why do i have to be a perm here to get a job ?
Is there a law here that I cant work here even when i have full working rights ?

Some companies reserve the rights to employ permanent residents only or citizens only and they do have a rights to do it.
Before you apply for any positions check if you are eligible to apply. It's very important not to apply where you shouldn't, usually the conditions are clearly stated by the employer.

Also, while applying for a job attach document showing (or explain in writing) what type of visa you have, your permit to work (state if any/or no conditions apply to your working permit).
It is all about to make sure they don't treat you as you are here on working/or student visa .

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Feb 11, 10, 04:01 #8
asik all good points. it may all change when you eventually marry in the next month.

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Feb 12, 10, 04:19 #9

Thank you asik for your reply.
You said that

asik:

Some companies reserve the rights to employ permanent residents only or citizens only and they do have a rights to do it.

I'm trying to understand why is that they want permanent residents or citizens only.
I'm not going anywhere and I have full working rights. I speak english, have experience so why not take in consideration my skills and not the type of visa that I'm on ?

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Feb 12, 10, 04:27 #10

akaishia:

I'm trying to understand why is that they want permanent residents or citizens only.
I'm not going anywhere and I have full working rights. I speak english, have experience so why not take in consideration my skills and not the type of visa that I'm on ?

i have seen many ads on seek specify that applicants have to be aus/nz residents.

maybe more red tape involved in employing non citizens.

maybe there are quota's to be filled.

akaishiaThreads: 2 Posts: 16 Joined: Feb 8, 10 ♀	Feb 15, 10, 13:31 #11
King Sobieski: red tape I have no idea what you mean...

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Feb 15, 10, 14:16 #12
akaishia: I have no idea what you mean... He means more paperwork for the company, why would they bother when they can employ someone who is a citizen...no hassle for them. I can understand your frustration, but maybe you should have applied for jobs before you landed there and maybe got some company to sponsor you? Would have been a lot easier all round.

optsThreads: 12 Posts: 333 Joined: Jul 29, 06 ♂	Edited by: opts Feb 15, 10, 20:21 #13
akaishia: I must say that i'm struggling big time to find a job here ( i'm based in Melbourne ). My visa is giving me loads of trouble. I'm getting married here to an Aussie next month, so i'm planning on setteling down here. I am not sure, in what region/area in Poland is Melbourne located at? Is it close to Warsaw?

rdw

Feb 15, 10, 20:26 #14

Being an expat on your own (meaning not working for your own nation in another place) is really tough. You have no rights compared to the locals and are still subject to all their laws. I will never do it again unless I am working for an American company and sent abroad all expenses and paperwork covered. It's not worth it. Better to save up and go abroad on your own terms. You will always be treated as a lesser being as an expat (by officials and govt agencies I mean).

When you get naturalized as an Aussie (assuming your marriage lasts that long) you will have it made.

akaishiaThreads: 2 Posts: 16 Joined: Feb 8, 10 ♀	Mar 5, 10, 14:22 #15
I found a job. It's amazing. I'm so happy now. I've learned that you have to be patient when you are looking for work...

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Mar 10, 10, 13:12 #16
congratulations...patience is a virtue.

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Edited by: AUSP Mar 17, 10, 00:36 #17

Correct me if I am wrong, why is that the government here is giving boat asylum seekers from Asia (e.g. Indonesia, Thailand) no problems with job placements and permanent residency, where we have a perfectly good Polka who can do a job...plus she is not illegally entering this country. This is one of the f&*(&king things I find that pisses me of about the Australian government so hypocritical..Someone correct me if I am wrong in my views. I am not racist believe me, but this thing what is good for one, and not for the other is unfair.

Grzegorz

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Edited by: asik Mar 17, 10, 02:25 #18

[quote=AUSP]Correct me if I am wrong, why is that the government here is giving boat asylum seekers from Asia (e.g. Indonesia, Thailand) no problems with job placements and permanent residency, where we have a perfectly good Polka who can do a job...plus she is not illegally entering this country. This is one of the f&*(&king things I find that pisses me of about the Australian government so hypocritical..Someone correct me if I am wrong in my views. I am not racist believe me, but this thing what is good for one, and not for the other is unfair.
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Perfectly good Polka just needed to be a little bit patient while looking for the job.

Boat people mostly from Sri Lanka lately, are people who seek refuge from war torn countries etc. they have the rights, as anyone in the world, to live normal life.
Australia provides protection for asylum seekers who meet the United Nations definition of a refugee, as defined in the 1951 Convention and 1967 Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees..
The refugees are not only the "boat people" they are also very talented known to the world people who are coming here on visitors or business visa, like in example, Russian "Balszoj Ballet" where after the performance some of the dancers applied for the refugee status - what a huge gain to the Australian Ballet.
In other situations we also gain many sport gold medalist from around the world, which are not leaving Australia after their performance because of seeking refuge here.
What I wanted to say is that, our government is protecting these people by spending taxpayers money but in return we gain a lot much more.
You shouldn't question this kind of asylium seekers because maybe tomorrow you could become one of them if the disaster strikes.

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Mar 17, 10, 02:57 #19

akaishia:

I must say that i'm struggling big time to find a job here ( i'm based in Melbourne ).
My visa is giving me loads of trouble.
I'm getting married here to an Aussie next month, so i'm planning on setteling down here.
But for 98% of jobs that i want and i can apply for ( I have experience in recruitment and call centre ) I have to be an Australian or NZ PERMANENT resident or citizen.
I went to Centrelink and they can't help me ( because of the visa that i'm on ), they sent me off to one of job agencies that they are cooperating with and they couldn't help me as well because I need to be registered with Centrelink to use them ( and I can't register because of the visa thai i'm on ).
I'm very frustrated because i want to work. I'm feed up with sitting at home.
I'm looking on Seek every single day for any available positions, but I have no luck so far.

Maybe you have some information about what i can do in my situation ?

God bless the Aussies. A nation that looks after its own first.

Fair play!

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Mar 17, 10, 04:08 #20
asik id personally prefer that australia give residency to people that wait for 2-3 years in rat infested, fresh water-less, stank refugee camps than people with money that cant be arsed waiting and can pay a smuggler 500k to get them to australian waters.

figolaThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Dec 23, 10 ♂	Dec 23, 10, 17:06 #21
you need to make good enquiry

Adam1981

Dec 27, 10, 05:51 #22

I had the same problem when I first came to Australia on a prospective marriage visa. Most employers wouldn't even interview me. I think the real problem is that most employers don't really understand conditions of the subclass 300 visa. Fiancee visa holders exercise full work rights in Australia. I called up DIAC and they advised me to print out the official information from their website and also use my visa grant letter issued by the Embassy when applying for jobs. And it worked. You just need to explain to your prospective employer that you are fully authorised to work in Australia on a prospective marriage visa and they have no legal right to refuse to consider your resume simply because you don't have a permanent visa. You can send the following links to your potential employers along with your visa grant letter:

immi.gov.au/migrants/partners/prospective/300/

What does the visa let me do?

With this visa, you:

can work in Australia

marriagevisahelp.com/index.php?page=subclass-300-visa-au

This visa category allows an individual to live, work, and study in Australia for up to nine months.

Hope this is helpful. Cheers!

Adam

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