HOW DO I MOVE FROM AUSTRALIA TO POLAND PERMANENTLY? PARENTS BOTH FROM POLAND

wolkowskaThreads: 1 Joined: Dec 14, 10 ♀	Dec 14, 10, 08:20 #1
Some one please help me, what do i need to do to gain polish residency permanently? Do i have to be a polish citizen? if so how do i apply for it and am i eligble? my mum and dad were both born in poland and came to australia 20 years ago. (my mum was 26, dad 36) Any other ways i can move? what documents do i need? please help! BTW i was born in australia.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Dec 14, 10, 08:28 #2
And how can I move from Poland to Australia pernamently? Let's make an exchange: I'll give you mine citizenship and you give me yours ;)

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Edited by: King Sobieski Dec 14, 10, 09:00 #3

wolkowska:

Some one please help me, what do i need to do to gain polish residency permanently?
Do i have to be a polish citizen? if so how do i apply for it and am i eligble? my mum and dad were both born in poland and came to australia 20 years ago. (my mum was 26, dad 36)
Any other ways i can move?
what documents do i need?
please help!

there are numerous threads in the aussie section of polish forums.

check them out here:

Polonia - Australia

Ashleys mindThreads: 7 Posts: 1,346 Joined: Nov 2, 10 ♀	Dec 14, 10, 10:15 #4
wolkowska: Some one please help me, what do i need to do to gain polish residency permanently? Having a bad day??? You can either pursue the paternal ties avenue, although that depends on the year you were born. Or go over as an Australian, see if you like it, see what kind of job you can get, and then hope that some bloke will marry you. ;) Stick around here, you might get lucky. ;)

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Dec 14, 10, 10:24 #5
The Polish embassy would be your first enquiry, straight from the horses mouth.

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,106 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Dec 14, 10, 10:37 #6
Ashleys mind: You can either pursue the paternal ties avenue, although that depends on the year you were born. who was born? depends on the parents births doesnt it?

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Dec 14, 10, 13:24 #7

If your father was born in Poland, then through him you have the automatic right to Polish citizenship. Ask around in Polish areas where you are, for an office which deals in getting a Polish passport for you. In UK, there used to be a travel agency in Tooting Bec, London, which had a separate office that could arrange that. You needed your and your father's birth certificates, and a letter from your father stating how, when and why he emigrated from Poland, and his general life history (a "życiorys"). Well, I'm talking twenty years ago; things may have changed now. Powodzenia.

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Dec 14, 10, 14:40 #8

I'm no expert in this, but judging from what u have said it's either u can claim Polish citizenship while u're there in Ozzie coz both your parents are Poles. If they've renounced their polish citizenship or your Dad served in The Ozzie Army then thats something else. Second option get all the documents required for you to claim your citizenship come here to Poland hire a very good lawyer (i'm sure many on here can recommend you a few good ones). Applying from Ozzie it might take a while.

Warning be prepared for an emotional rollercoaster Polish Bureaucracy remains very strong especially towards those who ran away from the motherland and are now trying to get back by all means. To you young lady i wish you all the best and i'm sure u'll get better replies on here very soon....

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,106 Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂	Dec 15, 10, 07:09 #9
al111: Warning be prepared for an emotional rollercoaster Polish Bureaucracy remains very strong especially towards those who ran away from the motherland and are now trying to get back by all means. To you young lady i wish you all the best and i'm sure u'll get better replies on here very soon.... very true...my friend applied and it took 3-4 years to get citizenship.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 15, 10, 09:08 #10
wolkowska: BTW i was born in australia. Oh no... An second Harry! Pls don't tell me your his cousin or something? wolkowska: Any other ways i can move? what documents do i need? please help! Ok you are "desperate" you must be ideologocilly inspired! God help us all!

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Dec 15, 10, 12:03 #11

Mr Grunwald:

An second Harry! Pls don't tell me your his cousin or something?

Impossible: none of my ancestors for at least ten generations even visited Poland, let alone being born there.

bimber94:

If your father was born in Poland, then through him you have the automatic right to Polish citizenship.

No: merely being born in Poland does not make a person a Polish citizen. In fact, being born in Poland has (99%) of the time bugger all impact on a person's citizenship.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Dec 15, 10, 12:26 #12
Harry: Impossible: none of my ancestors for at least ten generations even visited Poland, let alone being born there. Oh, I'm so dissapointed...

bimber94Threads: 9 Posts: 400 Joined: Mar 13, 09 ♂	Dec 15, 10, 20:04 #13
There goes your joke for this Friday, Zet. :-D

joewpolsce

Jan 3, 11, 02:52 #14

Polish parents = you have polish citizenship

Just go to a polish embassy/consulate and do all the paperwork to get a polish passport. You'll need to get your aussie birth certificate translated too, parents' credentials, there's more but i can;t remember. It definitely won't take longer than 1 year to complete, often you'll get your passport within a couple of months.

After that move to poland and get a dowod osobisty (identity card) and you're all set.

g/l

bimber94Threads: 9 Posts: 400 Joined: Mar 13, 09 ♂	Jan 4, 11, 11:23 #15
And the translation has to be done by an official translator and stamped accordingly. Not cheap, as they charge per word.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 4, 11, 12:02 #16
joewpolsce: After that move to poland and get a dowod osobisty (identity card) and you're all set. Or do it the easier way and move to Poland and get the dowod osobisty without going to all the hassle of trying to get Polish citizenship in Australia.

travelmaster99Threads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Jan 23, 11 ♂	Jan 23, 11, 01:27 #17
how can you get a "dowod osobisty" if you were not born in Poland and if you are not "zameldowany" in Poland?

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Jan 23, 11, 01:54 #18

travelmaster99:

how can you get a "dowod osobisty" if you were not born in Poland and if you are not "zameldowany" in Poland?

Quite easily. Citizenship is passed from the parents, not the place of birth. It's really not that difficult a process - for someone who was born to Polish parents who meet all the rules surrounding citizenship from 1920/1951/1962/1968, it's a doddle.

No need for registration either - I've seen a dowód without an address. There's a provision within the law on identity cards that allows people without a permanent address to receive one. It's the law in Poland to carry an ID card at all times if you are Polish, or can be claimed as such - which is why they need to allow Poles without a registered address to have a card.

BBmanThreads: - Posts: 459 Joined: Jan 4, 11 ♂	Jan 23, 11, 03:49 #19
delphiandomine: I've seen a dowód without an address I've got one. But not having an address on your DO may make it difficult to find a job.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 23, 11, 12:08 #20
BBman: I've got one. But not having an address on your DO may make it difficult to find a job. Oh, certainly. But as it's only really intended for Poles who aren't residing in Poland, it's fair enough - if you live here, you really should have such an address.

RockhardThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: May 3, 11 ♂	May 3, 11, 07:57 #21
I you're still looking for help moving to Poland let me know, I went through all that rubbish 14 years ago and do not wish it upon anyone to go through themselves!!

Polish Australi

Sep 12, 11, 01:38 #22

One can not renounce a Polish Citizenship, unless approved by a Polish Parliament/President. Being born in Australia of Polish parents makes you Polish automatically. Go to the Polish Consulate and ask for the documents. My daughter was born in Australia in 1984, me and my wife, both Polish / Australian Citizens, have come here in 1981. She is also a Polish Citizen without even asking for it. I highly recommend a Polish Passport, Good luck.

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Sep 12, 11, 02:16 #23

Citizenship is passed from the parents, not the place of birth

I think after the fall of communism the government allowed people not born in Poland ie sibblings of polish citizens a right to apply for a polish passport....overwise a person could just remain in Poland without a polish passport or visa claiming to be Polish.

My daughter was born in Australia in 1984, me and my wife, both Polish / Australian Citizens, have come here in 1981. She is also a Polish Citizen without even asking for it. I highly recommend a Polish Passport, Good luck.

I think you are trying to say that she has a right to have a Polish passport, she is not a Polish citizen as she cannot be both a Australian etc...If she wanted to apply for a polish passport she would need to have her australian birth certificate registered in poland (with all the apostolos crap) apply for a pesel and then apply for a passport....time up to 6 months... Could be done in Poland like Mr D suggested but she would then need a visa to stay in Poland...she would need her parents original Polish Birth Certificate.

lawyer	Sep 26, 11, 17:01 #24
I can help you to obtain a Polish passport. contact: sligecki@wp.pl

Mooselimb	Sep 26, 11, 17:32 #25
very true...my friend applied and it took 3-4 years to get citizenship. My kids got it in NY,Polish consulate in 2 weeks,all they needed was there birthcertificates,there moms passport and id photocopies and 3/4 pictures,but again that was in 2002.

szcz4069

Feb 13, 12, 08:24 #26

-my daughter is born in australia - she is australian.
-her mother and father are polish - we applied to have a polish passport for her. we got it. she is therefore a polish citizen as well
-i was born in new zealand. i can also apply for my children to be New Zealand citizens. they will get that also.

there is nothing wrong with having those citizenships. absolutely possible - absolutely legal. i can show you my three passports - NZ, AUSTRALIAN AND POLISH if you like.

szcz4069

Feb 13, 12, 08:29 #27

and by the way............using lawyers in poland to do the paperwork is both a very costly and time wasting exercise. i have had bothe personal experience in this....and the experiences of many of my friends......waste of money ....you are better off just using the consulate personnel....and friends who have done this before. a family member of mine (was originally in poland) and coming to live in Australia - quite simply got shafted financially for something that was actually quite simple in terms of applying for a fiancee visa.what a waste of money....

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