Black Haitians considering themselves as Poles

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 10, 01:09 #1
Black Haitians considering themselves as Poles:

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Sep 3, 10, 01:12 #2
McCoy: Black Haitians considering themselves as Poles: we have covered this topic a while ago... in conclusion, it's all bs...

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 10, 01:19 #3
pgtx: we have covered this topic a while ago... in conclusion, it's all bs... huh, good to know that pforumers after long and undoubtedly interesting discusion decided if its truth or not. just let the rest of the world know.

Matt32Threads: 11 Posts: 193 Joined: Aug 30, 10 ♀	Sep 3, 10, 01:21 #4
Awkward choice of words - black poles ?

BolleThreads: 3 Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 29, 10 ♂	Sep 3, 10, 12:06 #5
pgtx: we have covered this topic a while ago... in conclusion, it's all bs... Having some polish blood in them serves as hope. I'm sure they would love to prove (although in their case these ties go back too far) they have ties with poland so they could get PL citizenship and move to western europe to live off taxpayers.

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Sep 3, 10, 13:35 #6

hello,
i've read something about them, and it was sentimental story about poles sent to haiti by napoleon in order to crush the uprising of locals. of course, poles changed side in favor of the insurgents, and about 200 dwelt on the island. they had children with local women, things like this.

in mine opinion they are haitians, not poles. yes i know that there is a interesting and sentimental thing, because they remember about their origin for 200 years, etc, but still - they are haitians. maybe i'm not sentimental...

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Sep 3, 10, 15:17 #7
Bolle: Having some polish blood in them serves as hope. I'm sure they would love to prove (although in their case these ties go back too far) they have ties with poland so they could get PL citizenship and move to western europe to live off taxpayers. i don't think they even know where Poland is...

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Sep 3, 10, 16:10 #8

tow_stalin:

hello,
i've read something about them, and it was sentimental story about poles sent to haiti by napoleon in order to crush the uprising of locals. of course, poles changed side in favor of the insurgents, and about 200 dwelt on the island. they had children with local women, things like this.

in mine opinion they are haitians, not poles. yes i know that there is a interesting and sentimental thing, because they remember about their origin for 200 years, etc, but still - they are haitians. maybe i'm not sentimental...

Just like all the yanks on here are american, not irish, polish czech or anything else

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Sep 3, 10, 18:17 #9

welshguyinpola:

yanks on here are american, not irish, polish czech or anything else

I've lived in the States since i was 9, but i was born and bred in Poland, probably will live here till i die, but i don't think i'll ever consider myself an American, whenever i go back to Poland remember my childhood see my old friends my family, see people that look similar to me and are what i am, i know and feel that is where i belong, that that's home.

Matt32Threads: 11 Posts: 193 Joined: Aug 30, 10 ♀	Sep 4, 10, 02:08 #10
welshguyinpola: Just like all the yanks on here are american, not irish, polish czech or anything else You are not particularity intelligent...

Sire BrensharThreads: 1 Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 23, 10 ♂	Sep 4, 10, 02:17 #11
Who someone is is entirely up to them, it doesn't matter what blood they have or where they were born.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Oct 16, 10, 15:08 #12
pgtx: i don't think they even know where Poland is... exactly, they're just proud that they're lighter from other Haitians

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Oct 16, 10, 15:20 #13
pgtx: i don't think they even know where Poland is... I am ashamed to say that a lot of my fellow Englishmen are not too sure where it is...

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Oct 16, 10, 15:21 #14
Bolle: Having some polish blood in them serves as hope. I thought everyone wanted to be Pólish.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Oct 16, 10, 16:13 #15
wildrover: I am ashamed to say that a lot of my fellow Englishmen are not too sure where it is... Yea Poles know alot more about America, England, or Germany than they know about us. Many or most of those people think Polish people live like Afghans or something like that.

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Edited by: Moderator Oct 16, 10, 21:36 #16

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