Indian Students in Poland but wanting to Work in Denmark.

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Feb 7, 10, 18:51 #1

It has been observed that Poland has become a very good I can say FREE PASS to EU countries for Indian Students.

They easily get admission to Colleges in Poland & then they move immediately to countries like Denmark & start working over there illegally I feel. I say I feel because I do not know whether they are authorised to work in Denmark. I am not talking of a Summer Job, but immediately after they get admission & the Students' Social Security from Poland.

Could someone comment on this. Guys please I am not talking about a fictitous story. It is reality.

Raj_ryderThreads: 16 Posts: 178 Joined: Jan 15, 09 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 18:54 #2
No they are not allowed to work there. But they get more money there and they can travel on the TRC which the polish government issues them(under the impression that they are students). They are here to study not work. They have no reason to work considering that they showed enough funds for their visa to live here for the period of study.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 18:56 #3
Thanks Raj for that prompt reply. How to avoid such an infiltration? How do I register my complaint, since this is annoying due to lack of jobs out here & standard of living very High in Copenhagen!!

Raj_ryderThreads: 16 Posts: 178 Joined: Jan 15, 09 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 18:58 #4
what are you talking about exactly? What kind of complaint and to whom?

ExiledThreads: 5 Posts: 729 Joined: Jan 17, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:01 #5
Poles sell their EU priviledges probably.

Raj_ryderThreads: 16 Posts: 178 Joined: Jan 15, 09 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:02 #6
Exiled: Poles sell their EU priviledges probably. its a bit more complicated then that.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:02 #7
You tell me!! I don't know. If they are not authoried to work & still working, then some authorities should be made aware of this!! I feel. Either their college, Polish Immigration, Danish Immigration.. I really don't know.

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Feb 7, 10, 19:05 #8

madhukumar9170:

You tell me!! I don't know. If they are not authoried to work & still working, then some authorities should be made aware of this!! I feel. Either their college, Polish Immigration, Danish Immigration.. I really don't know.

Why do you think they don't know? Of course they do. But once your'e in the EU its kinda difficult to keep track of every idiot who runs away. Borders are open remember. And you have Indians with businesses in lets say Netherlands helping them get jobs without notifying the government. Theres not much that you can do about it.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:10 #9
Is it not possible to lodge a complaint with the immigration about students you are aware of who do such mal practice? It's because of such goons that EU has come up with reformed rules of immigration for even genuine cases & rest all are sufferers

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Feb 7, 10, 19:14 #10
madhukumar9170: Danish Immigration If they work in Denmark without working-visa you should contact Danish Immigration authorities. It's also dangerous to work illegally, you don't have any insurance etc. Denmark is rather active when it comes to kicking out illegally working people.

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Feb 7, 10, 19:14 #11

I guess it's possible but the thing is that they when the Foreign office approaches them(that is considering they take you seriously), there is not much that they can do since these students are allowed to travel on their cards. They are not working legally. So there is no paperwork which can be traced. till the point of time that you can prove that they were working there(and hence breaking the law) you can't do much about it. Neither can they.
Thats what i think anyway. You can give it a shot at the immigration office but you'll need to speak polish(quite well) to explain the situation to them. I doubt if they will be very cooperative. They have too much to do.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Feb 7, 10, 19:17 #12
Raj_ryder: You can give it a shot at the immigration office but you'll need to speak polish(quite well) to explain the situation to them. No! If they are working in Denmark on a student-visa they can be kicked out. But you should contact Danish Immigration authorities. They speak English. As I said, it's very dangerous to work illegally without insurances.

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Feb 7, 10, 19:19 #13

SzwedwPolsce:

No! If they are working in Denmark on a student-visa they can be kicked out. But you should contact Danish Immigration authorities. They speak English.

Could you prove that they are working there? Like i said they work illegally with no paperwork. How can you really prove that they were working there and not just visiting relatives? What you do have is one guy accusing the other of breaking the law. The Danish consulate will not even talk to him.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:20 #14
Can't their respective Colleges check on their students? whether they have attended college, whether they are still attending college, since I am given to understand that the Polish Social security is been issued through applications which the college takes care of?

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Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Feb 7, 10, 19:22 #15

Raj_ryder:

Could you prove that they are working there? Like i said they work illegally with no paperwork.

Probably not. But Scandinavian authorities search restaurants etc from time to time and check for working-visas for non-EU citizens.

madhukumar9170:

Can't their respective Colleges check on their students?

It's not the Soviet Union. But I guess, if you never attend classes, your student-visa will be terminated.

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Feb 7, 10, 19:24 #16

madhukumar9170:

Can't their respective Colleges check on their students? whether they have attended college, whether they are still attending college, since I am given to understand that the Polish Social security is been issued through applications which the college takes care of?

yes the University gives you a letter stating that you are a student. Your class attendance depends on your course. Also how is the university bothered if you go ad work illegally somewhere? if you don't meet the requirements to pass your semester, they will fail you. Thats their responsibility and thats about it. A lot of students are weekend students. They go to class every 2 weeks or so. Even if they don't their pals sign in their name. It's no big deal. all students do it. I do it too. Sometimes my friends and I are so drunk we can't go to class. Some one signs us in. Big deal.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Edited by: madhukumar9170 Feb 7, 10, 19:25 #17
& who are these Scandinavian Authorities? That was a good one Raj. old memories hahaha

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Feb 7, 10, 19:28 #18

SzwedwPolsce:

Probably not. But Scandinavian authorities search restaurants etc from time to time and check for working-visas for non-EU citizens.

they wont check for specific people. Its quite a large city from what i hear.

SzwedwPolsce:

It's not the Soviet Union. But I guess, if you never attend classes, your student-visa will be terminated.

again, not necessary. you can simply go and join another course or university and have your visa extended.

madhukumar9170:

& who are these Scandinavian Authorities?

the consulates mostly, but i wouldn't count on it.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:28 #19
madhukumar9170: who are these Scandinavian Authorities? Danish Immigration Service Ryesgade 53 2100 Copenhagen Ø Telephone: +45 35 36 66 00 Telephone hours: Monday-Friday 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Fax: +45 35 36 19 16 E-mail: us@us.dk

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:45 #20
As I understand that nothing can be done & it's a dead end!!! Stale Mate!!

ExiledThreads: 5 Posts: 729 Joined: Jan 17, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:48 #21
Why are Poles involved in this sh1t?They should throw these "students" out.

Raj_ryderThreads: 16 Posts: 178 Joined: Jan 15, 09 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:51 #22
Exiled: Why are Poles involved in this sh1t?They should throw these "students" out. the students pay the universities a ton. a foreign student pays almost 4 times the money a normal polish student does. The universities like that ;-) simple.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:52 #23
Don't feel it's that easy

ExiledThreads: 5 Posts: 729 Joined: Jan 17, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:57 #24
Why don't they go to study in Denmark then?This is clear violation.They exploit the EU legislation bribing their way into EU.There are so many holes,we don't need more.

madhukumar9170Threads: 1 Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 7, 10 ♂	Feb 7, 10, 19:58 #25
I agree...

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Feb 7, 10, 19:59 #26

Exiled:

Why don't they go to study in Denmark then?This is clear violation.They exploit the EU legislation bribing their way into EU.There are so many holes,we don't need more.

They don't go to Denmark because the universities want more than a fake high school certificate and also Copenhagen is way more expensive to live in. The danish embassy doesn't hand out visas to every Tom or Dick who stumbles in claiming to be a student.

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Feb 7, 10, 20:03 #27

Actually thats not absolutely the way it is seen. Yes I agree that Denmark is very expensive. But the colleges & Univ's are like a Greedy Cult. Apart from the Professional courses which are like hot cakes, the rest of courses like Mass Media.... are just seat filler courses & money making ones. the students who apply come with an intension to make money & not study. Many from India, Nepal, Pakistan, African nations are continuously looking out for such courses.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Feb 8, 10, 00:02 #28
Unfortunately there is always a way to (ab)use the system.

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