Polish racism in Algeria

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Aug 27, 08, 06:53 #61
secanix79: or all black or asian r bad people?? yes secanix79: all arab or muslim r terrorist yes

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Aug 27, 08, 07:03 #62

secanix79:

Earth is big, and everybody can choose a place where to live!!!!!

True, but there has to be an equal swap of people, only europeans don't want to live in your counties. So whilst europe becomes full of Africans and Asians the same is not said for Africa and Asia becoming full of Europeans...and Europe is much smaller therefore the inflow can not continue. We don't see 1,000s of English people entering Asia illegally do we? Culturally we are totally different to:

Also to Skot - re English culture - I was at a well dressing this weekend, we have plenty of quaint English customs if you bother to participate...

YanekThreads: 4 Posts: 49 Joined: Aug 16, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 08, 11:00 #63
masks98: This guy Simon was really nice and friendly to me, we had a whole conversation, and then he said that we should hang out sometime, he said "you're cool because you're American, here we mostly see black guys from Africa,, and they are ********, we don't like them." I think he meant that as a compliment to me but I still felt uncomfortable. Simon told you the truth. That's how it is....

masks98Threads: 30 Posts: 364 Joined: Apr 10, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 08, 12:56 #64
but what's wrong with black guys from africa as opposed to blacks from other places, or as opposed to other people from all races?

Andrew78Threads: 1 Posts: 138 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 08, 13:03 #65
Good point ShellyS,love ya

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Sep 3, 08, 13:30 #66

ShelleyS:

True, but there has to be an equal swap of people, only europeans don't want to live in your counties. So whilst europe becomes full of Africans and Asians the same is not said for Africa and Asia becoming full of Europeans...and Europe is much smaller therefore the inflow can not continue. We don't see 1,000s of English people entering Asia illegally do we? Culturally we are totally different to:

Also to Skot - re English culture - I was at a well dressing this weekend, we have plenty of quaint English customs if you bother to participate...

Andrew78:

Good point ShellyS,love ya

What do you expect people in struggling countries to do when they see that there are better opportunities elsewhere? You expect them to NOT give it a shot? What kind of irrational decision would that be?

We live in capitalist societies that thrive on attracting consumers to the variety of products being produced, a lot of money goes into making a pack of cigarettes appealing and therefore desirable, and a lot of money goes into making the western way of life appealing, therefore desirable, and therefore prone to attract new consumers from all corners of the globe...

So it's only normal that these places have become centers of gravitation for the human race in general, the society says "CONSUME!" and people are coming from all over and all walks of life in hopes of being able to do just that, because this is the way western life is packaged...so everything is working as it should really.

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Sep 3, 08, 14:32 #67

masks98:

So it's only normal that these places have become centers of gravitation for the human race in general, the society says "CONSUME!" and people are coming from all over and all walks of life in hopes of being able to do just that, because this is the way western life is packaged...so everything is working as it should really.

I think that old Europe already suffer from your invasion. Don't you know what's going on in some countries? Remember France, Holland? People from above mentioned countries (black countries) are getting the same rights and then are trying to set their own rules and laws in that country. They demand better life's conditions from the governments than native people have. Why?
Let's consider American society: white Americans already are afraid of everything now: to say an incorrect word, to look incorrectly. Is it should be so? I am not sure. Because at any time if something happens your people incriminate those whites in racism and are trying to make money on such cases.
Conclusion: the governments of European countries based on immigration laws which have been created by them during previous centuries are condemned their own countries on a slow death.

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Sep 3, 08, 14:39 #68

Yanek:

at any time if something happens your people incriminate

who are "my people"? I don't consider blacks my people, nor whites, or any other race. "my people" consist of family members and friends.. everyone else is guilty until proven innocent in my book.

Yanek:

Let's consider American society: white Americans already are afraid of everything now: to say an incorrect word, to look incorrectly. Is it should be so?

It shouldn't be so. Thankfully, it isn't. The white liberals who try to be so PC are routinely mocked across America, and especially in the big cities where they are numerous. So your description of "america" isn't really correct, you're just describing a small group of liberals...

Anyways, what you said didn't address my comments in anyway..

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Sep 3, 08, 14:46 #69
masks98: What do you expect people in struggling countries to do when they see that there are better opportunities elsewhere? How about rebuilding their own countries and bringing them up to higher standards? Too hard to live of one's own work instead off that of others'?

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Sep 3, 08, 14:58 #70

how can you rebuild your own country when half of your country is embroiled in conflicts? Still many people try to "rebuild" but they are way outnumbered. ANyway most of these countries are ruled by strongmen who simply jail or murder those who try to change things...they are powerless...

And many immigrants don't "live off of" the work of others, they come here and face an entirely new set of challenges... the basic idea of getting a job and settling in your new home is a challenge. Now you have more people fromm poor countries entering universities and acquiring skills so things will hopefully look different in two or three decades..

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Sep 3, 08, 15:21 #71

masks98:

What do you expect people in struggling countries to do when they see that there are better opportunities elsewhere?

Just a question:

Not long ago I watched a very interesting documentation about a group of people (they concentrated on a young woman here though) from a country in central Africa during their odyssey over the continent to their dream Europa.

It was horrible! She left two little children back home, the journey was paid with lots of hard cash, she had to travel for months on a rattly van, always hungry, always thirsty...many died along the way....two times their handler left them to die for in the desert...a new handler wanted to be paid anew...on the sea at last now the dangerous trip with a leaky boat awaits her, did I mention that another handler wanted to be paid?

In conclusion this woman put so much energy, so much fight and not at last so much money (thousands of dollar) into her dream just to end up as a prostitute if she makes as an illegal alien into Europe at all that is that I always wanted to ask her why she doesn't put all that energy and all that money into a life at home???
She would had been better off..not to mention her children!

PS: Just for your info - she didn't make it! The police got her after her boat crashed on an an european island!
Back to Africa for her...will she try it again? Probably...Will it help her or her country? Probably not!

Andrew78Threads: 1 Posts: 138 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Sep 3, 08, 15:40 #72
To Masks98 That's not my problem dude.

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Sep 3, 08, 15:43 #73

It often isn't worth it, but people have misconceptions about the US and parts of Europe, so it's just like I said in my previous post, about brand-building in the West and ow this attracts all sorts of people from all walks of life. I met a couple of Americans in Augustow who pracctically moved here after communism fell. They said that when they first came, they were like rock stars for the simple fact that they were Americans, and people had all sorts of misconceptions about USA. They would have given an arm or a leg to live the life they imagine Americans lived.

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Sep 3, 08, 20:47 #74

masks98:

how can you rebuild your own country when half of your country is embroiled in conflicts?

So let them stop whatever it is that causes the conflict and get to work.

masks98:

Still many people try to "rebuild" but they are way outnumbered.

If they are outnumbered then isn;t that a sort of democracy? The rule of majority after all. Since the majority created them mess and sticks too it then the majority thinks it's OK the way it is. Also, if the majority is happy then who are the minority to say thing are bad. If they prefer to leave they should apply for visas to various countries of interest.

Btw. hopping on a boat and just rowing towards Europe is not the same as applying for a visa.

masks98Threads: 30 Posts: 364 Joined: Apr 10, 08 ♂	Sep 4, 08, 01:06 #75
z_darius: So let them stop whatever it is that causes the conflict and get to work. Let's say the cause of conflict is political, that some strongman won a rigged election...and now people are protesting, getting attacked by the army, etc... How do you stop that? How do you stop the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?

Guest	Sep 28, 08, 20:42 #76
thankxx bro thank algeria is the best .

Guest	Oct 3, 08, 06:43 #77
You have to expect this lengthy bureaucratic procedure. After you are trying to enter the EU country from Africa. It has nothing to do with racism. I'm just curious to know that how are going to make a living in Poland?

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Oct 3, 08, 07:04 #78

masks98:

how can you rebuild your own country when half of your country is embroiled in conflicts? Still many people try to "rebuild" but they are way outnumbered. ANyway most of these countries are ruled by strongmen who simply jail or murder those who try to change things...they are powerless...

India is a very very rich country - yet they still come here in their droves - they have poor infrastructure because they DON'T care about the common working person. You know English doctors go the 3rd word countries in their own time at their own expense to help! Do the Afrian and Asian doctors that are trained in the UK go back and contribute to their own countries...do they fcuk! They DON'T care! It's a case of look at me I did good and fcuk you! These are the people that could make a difference and educate their own people, but they turn their backs on them. Well thank goodness we are growing in the EU because it means less and less jobs for these people in Europe, and if the jobs are not there the visas wont be issued!

Read a little bit about English history and our politics, read about the reform acts that the common man made happen, read about the acts that were passed to protect children, read about Emiline Pankhurst who fort for the rights for women to vote - do you think Europe was always so civilised? NO! we made it happen, WHY? so a load of 3rd world immigrants could come over and abuse the systems? NO!

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Oct 5, 08, 16:42 #79

ShelleyS:

Do the Afrian and Asian doctors that are trained in the UK go back and contribute to their own countries...do they fcuk! They DON'T care! It's a case of look at me I did good and fcuk you!

Really? Can you show me where this has been documented? In a way that would make sense, because in the end, what each individual wants is just to be happy, but It's still hard to believe that only white Europeans are so selfless as to go to third world countries to help.

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Oct 5, 08, 22:18 #80

masks98:

white Europeans are so selfless as to go to third world countries to help.

Its not selflessness... its a point of wealth where you want self actualisation.

However, there have been easterners too ... like Gandhi in South Africa... There have been early missionaries bringing monotheistic religion in europe. There have been kind people everywhere around the world.

Our kindness is strange... i would recommend an indepth study on this matter. Even on the matter of Mother Teressa (however, though, she called herself Indian).

datThreads: 2 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 5, 08 ♂	Oct 5, 08, 23:49 #81
hypocrisy is all over this thread, it's crazy.

SomerledThreads: 6 Posts: 106 Joined: May 31, 07 ♂	Oct 6, 08, 01:39 #82
secanix79: Don't confuse incompetence with racism.

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Nov 29, 08, 14:28 #83

This is what happens when a miserable, poor human becomes rich. They used to be nothing, working like slaves, well they still do. Now that they are part of the EU, They are taking it on those who are not. I tell you what my friend. First at all you should blame your country who lost all respect because of how things are. I am algerian too, but I would do the same because our country have a terrible profile. How do we treat the black africans anyway? Etc etc... Well you deal with it.

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Edited by: secanix79 Dec 3, 08, 21:28 #84

espana:

secanix79:
or all black or asian r bad people??

yes

secanix79:
all arab or muslim r terrorist

yes

Who is good?? jewish?

Guest:

This is what happens when a miserable, poor human becomes rich. They used to be nothing, working like slaves, well they still do. Now that they are part of the EU, They are taking it on those who are not. I tell you what my friend. First at all you should blame your country who lost all respect because of how things are. I am algerian too, but I would do the same because our country have a terrible profile. How do we treat the black africans anyway? Etc etc... Well you deal with it.

I agree with you Brother, and don't think they are rich, they still poor, 100 euro = 380zl, still no high technology like other countries of europe, believe me when ur in train, bus, restaurant, pub.... all people are looking at each other, very strange, when they hear english speaker they all wanna be ur friend because they think ur british and u will help them to get a job in england..... many strange things...
believe me, our country is so beautiful, educated people and so on, the only reason am here is because of my wife, and we'r planing to move somewhere else !

ShelleyS:

True, but there has to be an equal swap of people, only europeans don't want to live in your counties. So whilst europe becomes full of Africans and Asians the same is not said for Africa and Asia becoming full of Europeans...and Europe is much smaller therefore the inflow can not continue. We don't see 1,000s of English people entering Asia illegally do we? Culturally we are totally different to:

it's the same for Polish people in England, Ireland and other countries......

Guest	Dec 10, 08, 15:33 #85
i have been living in england more than 8years i am restaurant manager, all my kitchen staff are polish ,they dream to live in england for ever they doing more than 70h per week and they sleep 4 of them in one room,i thing the polish they will never back home.

kajkaz81	Dec 13, 08, 15:28 #86
have a strange feeling - have i heard this stoy before H? marrying for love, moving to poland and then somewhere else? are you heading to england? lol are you sure it's not about passport omri?

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07 ♂	Dec 13, 08, 16:37 #87
Let me guess this posting was made by one algerian who heard or saw one Pole being rasist in his country or where ever it was ......... now its a big thing !!!! Oh please many arabs and blacks and whites are rasist actually all people are rasist some show it and some dont so please delete this crap posting ...........

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 13, 08, 16:39 #88
Yeah, I agree. I think this should be deleted. It's hardly an issue, more than likely an isolated case.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07 ♂	Dec 13, 08, 16:42 #89
Yes thats it , maybe this person has something against Poles now is taking it out here , believe me all over the world you will hear stories like this vice versa on different countries ...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 13, 08, 16:44 #90
It's true. I know that the Poles don't like brudasy which they see Algerians and Tunisians as. However, I imagine that they are not as disrespectul over there as they are here. My fiancee works in a travel agency and she often hears racist remarks.

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